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"iran" is an anagram of "nair" (which is a hair removal product).
iranians are hairy i believe.
maybe they will self destruct when their "order" is disrupted to an "anagrammatic" degree.
no one will get what i said, and if they do, they will see it is lame and immature. |
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ruveyn
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Iran's Getting Ugly |
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| Master_Pedant wrote: |
I love how such thinly veiled xenophobia is so acceptable in the US. |
It is easy, sport. Just visit the hole in the ground where the WTC used to be.
Allah hu'akbar!
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Master_Pedant
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: Iran's Getting Ugly |
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| ruveyn wrote: | | Master_Pedant wrote: |
I love how such thinly veiled xenophobia is so acceptable in the US. |
It is easy, sport. Just visit the hole in the ground where the WTC used to be.
Allah hu'akbar!
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Thanks for clarifying.
I never would have guessed why there is such popular and governmental anti-Saudi sentiment in the US, nor why there are so many vociferous calls to restrict internal migration from Arizona. Thanks for the clarity, not that such overarching regional prejudices would be ethically justified, just that you helped explain them much more clearly to me. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| So, they destroyed a building and you want to kill their whole population for that? Nice going Ruveyn, holes are meant to be filled, y'know. ~.~ |
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ruveyn
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: Iran's Getting Ugly |
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| Master_Pedant wrote: |
I never would have guessed why there is such popular and governmental anti-Saudi sentiment in the US, nor why there are so many vociferous calls to restrict internal migration from Arizona. Thanks for the clarity, not that such overarching regional prejudices would be ethically justified, just that you helped explain them much more clearly to me. |
Anti Muslim more than anti Arab. Most Muslims are NOT Arabs.
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| M_LibertyGirl wrote: | The ignorance!  
BTW who said the protests have stopped? Overthrowing a brutal regime is not something that can be achieved in mere days, assuming it's not done by a stronger military force of course.
Just to point out a few things: Most people in rural Iran-who btw only make up like less than %30 of the population-aren't actually pro the current regime. Many of them either have no access to the info about what is happening in the larger cities and what the government is doing to our country, or if they do, they cannot protest since everyone knows everyone in such places and they are much easier targets for the government to crack down. the actual estimated number of people that came to the demonstration on Monday through Thursday last week was about 3 million and if permission had been granted by the government, there would have been many more. The only reason the numbers of protesters on the streets have gone down this week is because they're beating and shooting people like crazy and they don't let crowds to form. People are trying to regroup and find other ways to fight against them peacefully. Many are afraid and not ready to die since they have little hope of winning, thanks to knowledge that this regime is willing to kill the last one of us before giving up the power. Most of those that are killing people aren't even actual basijis or Sepah, they're savage thugs that are being paid and fed daily by the government to commit these horrendous crimes!
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| Quote: | Just to point out a few things: Most people in rural Iran-who btw only make up like less than %30 of the population-aren't actually pro the current regime
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True, the rural lands are where the minorities live, Ahamadinajad lost the rural regions in 2005(That was explained in detail in a bbc report). Just tell to xenon that, a Canadian who seems to be jealous of how the US is 100x more powerful than his nation and so he automatically blindly loves their enemies.
I lean to the reformists, only because I hope that if your current regime falls you'll stop sending your country's diseased ideologies to our way , well it's too late for us since Hezbollah has already grown strong and fast in the Shiite community here like a cancer but maybe the refrain of unlimited funds and weapons would gradually weakened it.
I watched some violent footages happened in Iran, and I swear ....those Basij's violent behavior , the way of how the Revolutionary guards hail the Khomeini (The fist hailing) are exactly the same behaviors of Hezbollah in 7 May 2008. Your country has successful imported its sh** to Lebanon (to the Shiite community in specific) by creating a mini-Basij clone here whom their true loyalty is to Wali el Faqih and not to Lebanon . Btw,the Shiite community here was never that radical before the arrival of your "glorious" revolutionary ideas . Bravo.
However, I am just little hesitated to how far I should support the reformists in Iran, regardless how cute the reformists girls are , you reformists adopted the "Green" color which is the radical color of Islam , and there was this suicide bomber who blew himself near Khomeiny's tomb and many reformists were chanting "allah w akbar" at night , a way of protest that was used during the Islamic revolution.
After all this ,I really wonder how far less radical the reformists are , hope they wouldn't become worse than the loyalists in case they rule.
But since you reformists want a better economy then it's logical to cut the non-lucrative funding projects to all the shits you implemented in the Arab world and start to look more into your own business, hope I am right about that tho.
I would like you to see this thread too: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt101611.html |
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| Y'know, there's an interesting parallel here o.O In Iran, the rural folks are against the local regime, but in western countries, they actually tend to support the right-wing parties. Go figure. =.= (not generalizing, but this is a trend i've somewhat noticed) |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:46 am Post subject: |
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| LePetitPrince wrote: | However, I am just little hesitated to how far I should support the reformists in Iran, regardless how cute the reformists girls are , you reformists adopted the "Green" color which is the radical color of Islam , and there was this suicide bomber who blew himself near Khomeiny's tomb and many reformists were chanting "allah w akbar" at night , a way of protest that was used during the Islamic revolution.
After all this ,I really wonder how far less radical the reformists are , hope they wouldn't become worse than the loyalists in case they rule.
But since you reformists want a better economy then it's logical to cut the non-lucrative funding projects to all the shits you implemented in the Arab world and start to look more into your own business, hope I am right about that tho. |
Generalise much? You can't lump the suicide bomber in with the protesters. There is a strong likelihood they are not related. Given that there was a string of sunni extremist bombs before the election. It is probably that it could be a sunni or another group. I wouldn't lump the sunni extremist groups in Lebanon in with the reformers either, just because they are not Shi'te and Hezbollah. Shouting from the roof tops is a tactic that worked for the revolution and may work again. There has already been report of some police changing sides or letting protesters go that were rounded up as well as protestor preventing other protesters from beating police that were isolated.
You have to allow change to happen. It takes time.
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| phil777 wrote: | | Y'know, there's an interesting parallel here o.O In Iran, the rural folks are against the local regime, but in western countries, they actually tend to support the right-wing parties. Go figure. =.= (not generalizing, but this is a trend i've somewhat noticed) |
Iran is very mixed. Rural areas can have quite different cultures and ethnicities.
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Listen to the media beat up.
Why should we care what happens in Iran? Do we care what happens in Mongolia or Peru or New Zealand or Fiji or Kurdistan?
No we don't. So what makes Iran such a big deal? |
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ruveyn
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| Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:08 am Post subject: |
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| Wombat wrote: | Listen to the media beat up.
Why should we care what happens in Iran? Do we care what happens in Mongolia or Peru or New Zealand or Fiji or Kurdistan?
No we don't. So what makes Iran such a big deal? |
Nukes and Oil. Next question?
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| Wombat wrote: | | Why should we care what happens in Iran? Do we care what happens in Mongolia or Peru or New Zealand or Fiji or Kurdistan? |
Yes
| Wombat wrote: | | No we don't. So what makes Iran such a big deal? |
Living in ignorance is a fine way to repeat the mistakes of the past.
If you don't care why are you even posting in this thread? You think you are being terribly profound? In reality there are always consequences for foreign relations, even if those have completely broken down. The fact is without trade and travel there would be no nations as we know them. Your so called nationalism doesn’t exist without these interactions. Trying to divorce yourself from your foreign history is fruitless.
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| 0_equals_true wrote: |
If you don't care why are you even posting in this thread? You think you are being terribly profound? In reality there are always consequences for foreign relations, even if those have completely broken down. The fact is without trade and travel there would be no nations as we know them. Your so called nationalism doesn’t exist without these interactions. Trying to divorce yourself from your foreign history is fruitless. |
Gee, how many people do I know who have chosen to take a holiday in Iran? None?
Now how about Fiji? The Fijian natives have taken control from the Indian majority.
No one has been killed or injured.
And this concerns me... how? |
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Yet you continue to comment. Not everyone is as isolated as you.
You may choose to live in a hole on the one hand but you will also be dependent and passenger to on going foreign relations that were instrumental in building your nation to what it is.
Native Fijian are actually the majority. Indigenous Fijian 57.25% to Indo-Fijian 37.64% CIA fact book
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| Iran should have nukes in order to bring balance to the region. It's absolutely unacceptable that a state of 5 million people, run by invaders from Europe, hold a nuclear bomb monopoly in the region. No one would accept a situation where Sri Lanka has a nuclear monopoly over south Asia. |
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