How come some aspies have friends and others can't make any

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Salonfilosoof
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14 Jul 2010, 10:23 am

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1. I think that Aspies that seek out organizations and people that are tolerant, kind, and open have it better at making friends than Aspies that are introverted and don't seek groups out. As an example, I have found these type of people in the local Unitarian Universalist church and the local Democratic Party. Both organizations have the personalities of people that I have mentioned above, and both provide lots of social opportunities.


I tend to find liberals too narrowminded for my taste actually.... I usually prefer people with very radical ideas (either "ultra-left" or "ultra-right") because they're used to being "different" from everyone else, which often makes them more openminded. Considering I've always been quite a radical myself, I also find such people easier to relate to.

Also, I generally feel more comfortable among extraverted people because I'm the extraverted kind of Aspie and I find extraverted people easier to relate to..

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2. I also think that Aspies that are curious enough to partake in or get pushed into certain opportunites by their parents, teachers, and the community also have it better.


The same is true for extraverted Aspies. We do go through hell for a couple of years, but because we tend to talk too much rather than too little we at least get sufficient exercise when it comes to social interaction and this exercise is very valuable to learn what kind of behavior is expected in which situation.



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14 Jul 2010, 3:30 pm

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Perhaps you even have such a low functioning form of autism that you can't reason very well if you're not careful, and make off topic posts in threads? Perhaps you are so locked inside yourself you can't imagine what it's like to be neurotypical, as I barely can from observation, and thus presume you are innately the same, with a different personality?


Try to understand the nature of a scale. We are called higher functioning for a reason. I don't think your argument really addresses that reality very well. It doesn't address MANY things very well.


lol , I am sensing some supremacy in that part , I am sensing that you meant to say: "We are higher functioning, we are smarter , you might be a lower functioning autie hence why you are posting off-topics in threads like a ret*d".




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I for one do not think there is such a gap in research that AS just doesn't exist. I've read some quite interesting research. Maybe you should read more.


I read a lot.

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It would also improve your grammar.


lol another perfectionist grammar-nazi with the perfection complex.

I am not natively English-speaker and English isn't even my second language, after all , I am a poor low functioning trilingual person who's too locked inside himself. Can you speak Arabic ,French and English , Mr. HIGH functioning superior being?

Btw, LFAs are far better than you.



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14 Jul 2010, 4:00 pm

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lol , I am sensing some supremacy in that part , I am sensing that you meant to say: "We are higher functioning, we are smarter , you might be a lower functioning autie hence why you are posting off-topics in threads like a ret*d".


Actually.... no.... I pointed out the scale because you don't seem to understand that Autism and Asperger's are related. But good job proving in general how silly you are.

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I read a lot.


It doesn't really sound like you do.

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lol another perfectionist grammar-nazi with the perfection complex.

I am not natively English-speaker and English isn't even my second language, after all , I am a poor low functioning trilingual person who's too locked inside himself. Can you speak Arabic ,French and English , Mr. HIGH functioning superior being?

Btw, LFAs are far better than you.


I'm not really a grammar nazi, when people who have trouble with it manage to avoid being stupid in other ways, it's quite alright. And I'm female.

Again, the high functioning isn't really a dig on anyone. I think LFA's are really interesting and probably *are* "better than me" in some ways. I'm really looking forward to learning about that. No, I think your troubles with whatever you have are quite personal. Whatever kind of autism you have or don't have, I just think you need to make sure you're dealing with it properly.

Maybe you shouldn't argue with people in English if you're not very good at it. I don't think it's really fair to the people around you. You come off as unjustifiably arrogant and a bit dumb, cos you seem to have trouble understanding it, not just typing it.

Please consider that before responding to me. I doubt you will even understand everything I said here, as you didn't last time. Maybe safer to argue in your native language, or be more self-aware when you argue in English? It's important to know one's limitations.



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14 Jul 2010, 4:10 pm

I tend not to make friends very easily as, often I come across as being distant and mundane.Also, I don't always pick up on my errors of social communication or even written communication too though, I'm constantly trying to do better.. :oops:



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15 Jul 2010, 12:14 am

I don't make friends easily either, but I'm at the point where I really don't give a damn anymore. Enemies, now that I seem to be good at! :wink:


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15 Jul 2010, 6:34 am

I'm at the point where I really don't give a damn anymore. I, myself try not to worry about alliamces though it's not easy still, I do okay with keeping distance between myself and scorpions..



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15 Jul 2010, 3:25 pm

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lol , I am sensing some supremacy in that part , I am sensing that you meant to say: "We are higher functioning, we are smarter , you might be a lower functioning autie hence why you are posting off-topics in threads like a ret*d".


Actually.... no.... I pointed out the scale because you don't seem to understand that Autism and Asperger's are related. But good job proving in general how silly you are.


The diagnosis of Asperger doesn't medically exist, like it or not, Its just a label given to autistic spectrum people with particular autistic traits. There's absolutely no reason to label those particular set of traits - a label which is too abused by non-auties too.
There's a reason why they are removing it from the upcoming new DSM.



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It doesn't really sound like you do.


Oh.... prove it.





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I'm not really a grammar nazi, when people who have trouble with it manage to avoid being stupid in other ways, it's quite alright. And I'm female.


Ok , don't be sad, you are then Ms.HIGH functioning superior being.
Anyways,female ....male ...shemale, that doesn't matter, you still a grammar nazi with a perfectionism complex.



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Please consider that before responding to me. I doubt you will even understand everything I said here, as you didn't last time. Maybe safer to argue in your native language, or be more self-aware when you argue in English? It's important to know one's limitations.



I am understanding every single word/phrase you're saying here, again ....since you are that perfect in English and since I am failing to achieve your linguistic perfection then why don't you point out the grammar errors (in bold) in my posts?

That would be a win-win favor , a double win for you: 1- You can improve my English a bit and that would cause less annoyance for you in the future. 2- Imagine the pleasure you gonna get for humiliating me in front of all members by showing them my terrible grammar errors.

So what about it? Tempting ,no? Go ahead.



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Maybe you shouldn't argue with people in English if you're not very good at it. I don't think it's really fair to the people around you. You come off as unjustifiably arrogant and a bit dumb, cos you seem to have trouble understanding it, not just typing it.


O Really??

Wrongplanet is an English website , true , but it is not restricted for people who are perfect in English, there are a lot of non Englishs-speakers members here and a lot of very young members and there are even dyslexic members who can't even properly write any language ,even their native one. Do you want to prevent their contribution here because their English doesn't meet your "perfect" linguistic level?

Am I really being unfair to people around me here by using my imperfect English?
Let's see ..... I am gonna find out this soon:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt132031.html


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I think LFA's are really interesting and probably *are* "better than me" in some ways. I'm really looking forward to learning about that.


I think LFAs are better than you as overall because they are far more modest than you.



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16 Jul 2010, 1:32 pm

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Lets try again. In my experience, the more extreme nerds tend to have some kind of obsession, and if you're not a die hard fan like they are, they never really give you a chance. And as for aspies, the few I met in person didn't even come close to what I just described. Sure, they had their obsessions, but you didn't have to be as obsessed as they were to be their friend. If you showed an interest, and gave them the space, they opened up eventually.


I'm into IT and therefore quite used to meeting nerds, geeks or however you want to call them. I don't share your impression at all.


I don't know what to say then. That is my impression, however few people agree.

Ever since I entered my twenties, it seems the extreme nerds are much more clannish then normal people, and difficult to get along with. I know some people in IT who are kinda nerdy, and they're pretty neat and easy to talk to, but they ain't the kinda people I'm talking about.



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29 Jul 2010, 4:53 pm

Bridge Management has instructed me to ask everyone to cease feeding the trolls. :D

I think the ability to make friends depends on how strongly someone desires friends in the first place, coupled with the ability to overcome the anxiety that sometimes comes with trying to socialize.

I've never really had a friend, though I would come home from school and cry to my mother for hours when I was younger...
it always seemed as if I was approaching people, and in the back of my mind was that horrible suspicion that people would make fun of me out of earshot. I'm very verbose and can talk for hours on different academic subjects, and what finally happened was someone would blatantly interrupt me with some gossip or something similarly inane and change the subject, and then the conversation would continue as if I wasn't there. I would try very hard to care about boys, and clothes, but just couldn't. Even at family holidays no one really spoke to me. My mother would always accuse me of "having to have the last word" or "always thinking I was right", or "trying to be a know-it-all", and so eventually, I stopped speaking altogether.

During the few years I was in college, it wasn't a problem, because no one spoke to me. I would badly have liked to debate in my political science courses, but my throat would close up and I'd be on the verge of tears, trying to work up the nerve. I haven't spoken aloud to anyone but my parents in four years. :?


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29 Jul 2010, 10:15 pm

i have oto many freinds to count it;s always been this way since i was little sincei have aspects of aspegers the social probelms aren't really there alot ppl r just drawn to me cuz my amzaing friednly , open, kind,creative,easygoing,outgoing, fun loving, funny persnility also cuz i have unquie ways of having fun that ppl likei put on skate and bmx shows at skate parks do videos of skate and bmx and video gameb toruneys and dance offs( with some videos) plus i have dirvesre array of interests which gets me on with diffrent ppl i go to punk , metal and post hardcore shows well i meet ppl in the mosh i meet skatet and bmxer buds at skate parks, dirt trails and downtown street spots overhear ppl talking bout games i like and asking ot get togehtrr to play them and doin stuff with diffrent types of ppl aside from my main group of freinds i do eveything with i have sub groups i do certin acvvtiteis with :)



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30 Jul 2010, 12:32 am

I have had acquaintances on and off - not my pickin-
until they realised I was odd/weird/freaky
and my personal favourite any of the ones that describe a child of satan :roll:
or I 'moved'

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I will go "missing" from my friends for day on end. I will not be able to be reached by any means (phone, coming over and banging on my door, internet) and they've slowly come to understand that's just how it is...or at least I hope they have


I have done this a lot - plus moved locations, provinces and at one time the country
Many times I hitch-hiked - people act weird about that..



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30 Jul 2010, 3:33 am

I don't have many friend my age (25) but i have one older then me I never really have friend my age and now I don't like any one young then me

This could be becaues I was home school and did't have much family around too



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06 Nov 2010, 2:36 pm

Ok I didnt really read much through this post but for me I have several not too close friends. Say around 7 friends(in person). I have more on the internet. Ive only had 1 close friend in my entire life that was in person. I have really strict definitions when it comes to considering a person a close friend. So I've probably had more on looser terms. Im actually not sure. For me, the reason why i have trouble making friends is heavily due to my shyness and my childhood. I was selectivly mute for almost 10 years of my childhood so I had no friends. I was really confused for a long time on approaching people and talking to them. I was diagnosed with AS at 18 and since then I've worked extremley hard to develop adequate social skills. I practically started from scratch when I was 17(I had the social skills of a 6,7yr old at the time). Trying to work with developing social skills and overcoming shyness problems has been the main problem. As far as Im concerned, Im pretty high functioning on the spectrum. Making friends and socializing is one of my biggest problems.



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06 Nov 2010, 3:00 pm

Here's my idea that I'll keep on spewing for the rest of my time visiting this forum. There are plenty of schizoids out there who have been diagnosed as aspergers when they're under 18 till their diagnose change. I think this still needs some revamping because from what I heard in the schizoid forum, their behavior really start to change in their childhood and adolescent meaning the symptoms don't just appear in the early adulthood. That's just one of the many possible explanation to why some aspies don't really have any friends.



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06 Nov 2010, 8:14 pm

Define 'friend'.

Someone you're not enemies with, maybe. Someone you don't want to kill, maybe. Someone you have to put up with but doesn't annoy you too much. haha

Or the complete douchebags who operate in packs and follow the most dominant of the group, wearing the same clothes, speaking in lame social banter, picking on outsiders....... no, those people are lame. Why in the hell would I want to spend time around them? It's boring. And annoying.



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06 Nov 2010, 11:04 pm

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Define 'friend'.


A friend is someone who sends me emails saying that they need my help in transferring money, a friend is someone who never has time for me but calls me up whenever they want or need something. The word friend is extremely overused nowadays. What most people call friendships; I want nothing to do with