Asp-Z
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| Makes no sense to me. The natural reaction to a lack of sex isn't to fly a plane into a building, is it? |
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Craig28
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| Asp-Z wrote: | | Makes no sense to me. The natural reaction to a lack of sex isn't to fly a plane into a building, is it? |
A lack of sex is a problem because it invalidates somebody's feelings. Its that whole feeling that makes people act irrationally. |
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Asp-Z
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| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Craig28 wrote: | | Asp-Z wrote: | | Makes no sense to me. The natural reaction to a lack of sex isn't to fly a plane into a building, is it? |
A lack of sex is a problem because it invalidates somebody's feelings. Its that whole feeling that makes people act irrationally. |
I seriously doubt it makes them act that irrationally, though. |
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Craig28
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| Asp-Z wrote: | | Craig28 wrote: | | Asp-Z wrote: | | Makes no sense to me. The natural reaction to a lack of sex isn't to fly a plane into a building, is it? |
A lack of sex is a problem because it invalidates somebody's feelings. Its that whole feeling that makes people act irrationally. |
I seriously doubt it makes them act that irrationally, though. |
I'm glad that you know these terrorists so that we can get into their minds and see what they really are about. Splendidi inside knowledge. You don't know them? So why the knowledgable analysis? |
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Asp-Z
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| Craig28 wrote: | | I'm glad that you know these terrorists so that we can get into their minds and see what they really are about. Splendidi inside knowledge. You don't know them? So why the knowledgable analysis? |
You could use the same argument against the theory that they bomb people because they don't get laid. In fact, they do it because they didn't like their breakfast. You don't know them, so you can't give me a knowledgeable analysis...  |
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leftyswin
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| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: Are terrorists are driven by sexual frustration? |
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| JohnisBlind wrote: | | Are terrorists are driven by sexual frustration? |
lol |
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| Tim_Tex wrote: | | And doesn't Osama bin Laden himself have 4 or 5 wives? |
If you think any of them are hanging out with him in that cave in Afghanipakistan, you've got another thing coming.
Any guy with even scores of wives that has been promised 72 virgins in the afterlife IF he flies a plane into a building...may very well likely do so if he thinks his current crop of temporal females is insufficient to his needs.
I think the biggest actual sexual frustration component is evidenced by that thing some radical Imams put out where they alleged that bare cleavage caused Allah to be displeased with Woman and thus cause Earthquakes. (hahaha boobquakes). Yeah, if they're believing stuff like that, their entire outlook on sex is going to be completely warped, especially if they think women should be practically living in self-contained tents (burquas). |
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Militant Muslims view women as a second-rate species.
There's a reason why terrorists target New York and LA - women and they're the centers of capitalism. They won't hit San Francisco for 1 and 1 reason alone: The Castro. The nerve center of American gay culture. |
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The_Face_of_Boo
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The leaders, the people pulling the strings such as Bin Laden, sure it is political for them. But what drives the masses of young men willing to die for the leaders? They are the instrument of terrorism. See my earlier post.
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^ This.
KSA's society is the main reserve of Islamic terrorism.
The main form of marriage in KSA is arranged marriage.
And the arranged marriage in KSA, like any 3rd-world country especially in the islamic country, is the most materialistic form of marriage: The approval is only given by the bride's father and the main criteria measured between the candidates is money.
The sum of money to be paid by the groom to the bride is called مهر "Mahr" (translation=pony) , practically a part of the Mahr is given to the parents too. The one with highest suggested Mahr is usually the winner.
Yes, it's pure business. Like an auction over some item.
And since the practice of polygyny is common and acceptable in KSA, that gives the richer men the higher hand of getting more than one wife through the mahr system mentioned above , leaving the poorest men with no chance of having any wife.
The poorer an middle-class Saudi men (who are = rich compared to here) were used to go to Lebanon to steal half of our women lol , but lately marrying a foreigner for the Saudi men isn't that easy anymore because it needs an official permission.
So
-no sex outside marriage permitted.
-no strip clubs /porn/playboy or any kind of adult industry.
-Strong gender imbalance of married people due to polygyny
- Marrying foreigners getting harder for them
===> Sexual frustration.
and the 72 virgins divine promise empowered by a 'sacred' text is the perfect tool to lure those poorer men to become Mujahideen. It's the ultimate fantasy that they want to reach.
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| The_Face_of_Boo wrote: | | Dilbert wrote: |
The leaders, the people pulling the strings such as Bin Laden, sure it is political for them. But what drives the masses of young men willing to die for the leaders? They are the instrument of terrorism. See my earlier post.
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^ This.
KSA's society is the main reserve of Islamic terrorism.
The main form of marriage in KSA is arranged marriage.
And the arranged marriage in KSA, like any 3rd-world country especially in the islamic country, is the most materialistic form of marriage: The approval is only given by the bride's father and the main criteria measured between the candidates is money.
The sum of money to be paid by the groom to the bride is called مهر "Mahr" (translation=pony) , practically a part of the Mahr is given to the parents too. The one with highest suggest Mahr is usually the winner.
Yes, it's pure business. Like an auction over some item.
And since the practice of polygyny is common and acceptable in KSA, that gives the richer men the higher hand of getting more than one wife through the mahr system mentioned above , leaving the poorest men with no chance of having any wife.
The poorer an middle-class Saudi men (who are = rich compared to here) were used to go to Lebanon to steal half of our women lol , but lately marrying a foreigner for the Saudi men isn't that easy anymore because it needs an official permission.
So
-no sex outside marriage permitted.
-no strip clubs /porn/playboy or any kind of adult industry.
-Strong gender imbalance of married people due to polygyny
- Marrying foreigners getting harder for them
===> Sexual frustration.
and the 72 virgins divine promise empowered by a 'sacred' text is the perfect tool to lure those poorer men to become Mujhahedeen. It's the ultimate fantasy that they want to reach. |
thank you for that explanation of how the system of mahr works, and its effect on marriageable men in saudi arabia. we can speculate as outsiders, but you are significantly closer to the actual religion and culture in question.
p.s. i noticed that you have added your location to your profile. cool!
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The_Face_of_Boo
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| hyperlexian wrote: | | The_Face_of_Boo wrote: | | Dilbert wrote: |
The leaders, the people pulling the strings such as Bin Laden, sure it is political for them. But what drives the masses of young men willing to die for the leaders? They are the instrument of terrorism. See my earlier post.
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^ This.
KSA's society is the main reserve of Islamic terrorism.
The main form of marriage in KSA is arranged marriage.
And the arranged marriage in KSA, like any 3rd-world country especially in the islamic country, is the most materialistic form of marriage: The approval is only given by the bride's father and the main criteria measured between the candidates is money.
The sum of money to be paid by the groom to the bride is called مهر "Mahr" (translation=pony) , practically a part of the Mahr is given to the parents too. The one with highest suggest Mahr is usually the winner.
Yes, it's pure business. Like an auction over some item.
And since the practice of polygyny is common and acceptable in KSA, that gives the richer men the higher hand of getting more than one wife through the mahr system mentioned above , leaving the poorest men with no chance of having any wife.
The poorer an middle-class Saudi men (who are = rich compared to here) were used to go to Lebanon to steal half of our women lol , but lately marrying a foreigner for the Saudi men isn't that easy anymore because it needs an official permission.
So
-no sex outside marriage permitted.
-no strip clubs /porn/playboy or any kind of adult industry.
-Strong gender imbalance of married people due to polygyny
- Marrying foreigners getting harder for them
===> Sexual frustration.
and the 72 virgins divine promise empowered by a 'sacred' text is the perfect tool to lure those poorer men to become Mujhahedeen. It's the ultimate fantasy that they want to reach. |
thank you for that explanation of how the system of mahr works, and its effect on marriageable men in saudi arabia. we can speculate as outsiders, but you are significantly closer to the actual religion and culture in question.
p.s. i noticed that you have added your location to your profile. cool! |
The middle-class Saudi men usually come here to vent....mostly sexually , but the poorer or the over-religious men would still be stuck in their countries.
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/middleeast/features/article_1496751.php/Beirut-s-seamy-side-offers-sex-and-fun-for-Arab-tourists-Feature
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0JQP/is_376/ai_n13479530/ |
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Sallamandrina
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| Craig28 wrote: | | Shadwell wrote: | | Who isn't driven by sexual frustration at some level? |
No one should have to be, its just so morally and ethically corrupt. Sex is the biggest thing that a person needs in order to get self growth and progression. When its not there or it is being deliberately denied, then I can fully support whatever the person does next in order to help themselves. |
Like rape or murder? 
Hint: "An intellectual is someone who has found something more interesting than sex" (Edgar Wallace)
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| Sallamandrina wrote: | | Craig28 wrote: | | Shadwell wrote: | | Who isn't driven by sexual frustration at some level? |
No one should have to be, its just so morally and ethically corrupt. Sex is the biggest thing that a person needs in order to get self growth and progression. When its not there or it is being deliberately denied, then I can fully support whatever the person does next in order to help themselves. |
Like rape or murder?
Hint: "An intellectual is someone who has found something more interesting than sex" (Edgar Wallace) |
+1. Well said, @Sallamandrina.
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| nthach wrote: | Militant Muslims view women as a second-rate species.
There's a reason why terrorists target New York and LA - women and they're the centers of capitalism. They won't hit San Francisco for 1 and 1 reason alone: The Castro. The nerve center of American gay culture. |
Isn't homosexuality also forbidden in Islam?
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| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Tim_Tex wrote: | | nthach wrote: | Militant Muslims view women as a second-rate species.
There's a reason why terrorists target New York and LA - women and they're the centers of capitalism. They won't hit San Francisco for 1 and 1 reason alone: The Castro. The nerve center of American gay culture. |
Isn't homosexuality also forbidden in Islam? |
The terrorists definitely don't like it. And yeah, it is. Which makes me wonder about that blown gas line and fire in San Fransisco not that long ago. I mean sure, it's probably just a "gas line rupture" but the terrorists are probably pissed that they didn't do it themselves.
Though, they tend to raeg more about women and Jews than they do about Homosexuals. Sympathy with Palestinian Terrorists seems to take precedent over those issues. See for them, it's not merely targeting the problem, it's attacking the rest of the population for 'not doing their job' i.e. making The Man responsible for 'taking care of the problem'. That is because they're in groupthink. They don't treat a population as individuals with separate opinons and beliefs. They don't understand that. So with their groupthink they belive that all those that 'tolerate' the things they consider problems are just as guilty as the perpetrators of 'problems', themselves. They make no distinction at all. |
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