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02 Dec 2010, 4:16 am

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NTs have no souls. Fact.

I thought that was AS. After all, Aspies do have an "empty" stare.


NTs do have souls. So do Aspies. I have a soul, otherwise I would be like a robot, which I'm not. Well, I would be a robot.


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02 Dec 2010, 4:24 am

No one has souls.



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02 Dec 2010, 10:46 am

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Since NT's are the majority, I honestly don't think they care what we think of them.


NTs are not the majority. There are more people diagnosed with some sort of disorder than there are people who aren't.


I was referring to NT as in non-autistic. That was the original intention of the word.



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02 Dec 2010, 10:53 am

Well, if NT means non autistic, then the biggest myth would be that they are all the same, have the same behviour and interests, understand each others very well and instinctively and are never rejected for their disorder. :lol:



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02 Dec 2010, 10:54 am

NT does not mean non-autistic. Too many people misuse the term. NT means someone who is not diagnosed with a disorder.



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02 Dec 2010, 11:01 am

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NTs are who we should aspire to be like.


This!



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02 Dec 2010, 11:35 am

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NT does not mean non-autistic. Too many people misuse the term. NT means someone who is not diagnosed with a disorder.


That's what I always thought it meant.


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02 Dec 2010, 11:43 am

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NT does not mean non-autistic. Too many people misuse the term. NT means someone who is not diagnosed with a disorder.


I never encountered the term NT until I started researching autism.


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02 Dec 2010, 11:51 am

lostD wrote:
Well, if NT means non autistic, then the biggest myth would be that they are all the same, have the same behviour and interests, understand each others very well and instinctively and are never rejected for their disorder. :lol:


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02 Dec 2010, 11:59 am

Joe90 wrote:
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NT does not mean non-autistic. Too many people misuse the term. NT means someone who is not diagnosed with a disorder.


That's what I always thought it meant.


NT is a shortened form of "neurotypical". Although people use it to mean "not autistic" or "not diagnosed", which aren't the same as neurotypical. I'd prefer if the term were only used as a short form of "neurotypical", but it seems to have grown it's own meaning beyond that. Oh well.


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02 Dec 2010, 12:00 pm

The word "Neurotypical" was coined by Aspies, to clearly set out a situation of "them and us".



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02 Dec 2010, 12:46 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
NT does not mean non-autistic. Too many people misuse the term. NT means someone who is not diagnosed with a disorder.


The term NT (neurotypical) was originally coined by the autistic community to refer to people who are not on the autism spectrum in order avoid using the word "normal". It was originally coined by Jim Sinclair of Autism Network International (ANI):

http://web.archive.org/web/20080606024118/http://web.syr.edu/~jisincla/language.htm



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02 Dec 2010, 1:07 pm

Craig28 wrote:
The word "Neurotypical" was coined by Aspies, to clearly set out a situation of "them and us".



It's originally a bigotry term when it got made up. I learned that at my autism group. Someone in the autism community made it up like how a white person made the N word up for black people and I said in the group if they ever made a word up for white people for bigotry. They actually do have a word for us but I forget what it is. Someone in the group told me what it was.

Now NTs call themselves that or people who aren't on the spectrum even if they have mental issues. My group leader hates the term "Neurotypical" so he never uses it. He said it doesn't make us any better to bash them and make up a word for them to put them down.


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02 Dec 2010, 1:08 pm

Jono wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
NT does not mean non-autistic. Too many people misuse the term. NT means someone who is not diagnosed with a disorder.


The term NT (neurotypical) was originally coined by the autistic community to refer to people who are not on the autism spectrum in order avoid using the word "normal". It was originally coined by Jim Sinclair of Autism Network International (ANI):

http://web.archive.org/web/20080606024118/http://web.syr.edu/~jisincla/language.htm



Oh I guess not then. (for what I said in my PP).


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02 Dec 2010, 1:31 pm

League_Girl wrote:
Jono wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
NT does not mean non-autistic. Too many people misuse the term. NT means someone who is not diagnosed with a disorder.


The term NT (neurotypical) was originally coined by the autistic community to refer to people who are not on the autism spectrum in order avoid using the word "normal". It was originally coined by Jim Sinclair of Autism Network International (ANI):

http://web.archive.org/web/20080606024118/http://web.syr.edu/~jisincla/language.htm



Oh I guess not then. (for what I said in my PP).


Yes, the autistisnobs (i.e. the aspies and HFA's who think they're better than NT's) like NT bashing. However, the term NT was never meant to be used to bash people who not like us. It was meant to be used instead of "normal", firstly because "normal" is not a precise term and depends on context and secondly because it implies that those with autism or Asperger's are "abnormal". Think about gay people using the word "straight" to describe people who are attracted to the opposite sex.



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02 Dec 2010, 2:11 pm

League Girl - I'm afraid the word "Neurotypical" is here to stay. If it is offensive, then surely being non autistic and "normal" they can just let it go and not be offended by it. Or are Neurotypicals going to be deliberately offended by the words of an "inferior species of human"?.