Unintentionally pissing people off and aspergers?

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06 Apr 2011, 3:58 pm

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I very often say things that are misinterpreted.


Seriously? Me too. Whenever I attempt to tell others "No one understands me", I'm not just being an angsty teenage brat, others often take things in a different way than I intended that I don't immediately understand.

I didn't think that was a symptom of aspergers, though, so I didn't add it to my list. Maybe I should...



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06 Apr 2011, 4:11 pm

swbluto wrote:
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I very often say things that are misinterpreted.


Seriously? Me too. Whenever I attempt to tell others "No one understands me", I'm not just being an angsty teenage brat, others often take things in a different way that I intended that I don't immediately understand.

I didn't think that was a symptom of aspergers, though, so I didn't add it to my list. Maybe I should...


I don't know if it as actual symptom, per se, but I not only have trouble reading emotions in others, but I also don't seem to project my own emotions accurately. This makes sense if in order to display an emotion correctly, you have to recognize that emotion in others and mimic the expressions that go with it. There are several threads floating around here that mention mirror neurons. You might find them interesting.


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06 Apr 2011, 4:11 pm

Wow. There sure is a lot of negativity here. Well, I have intimately known what Aspergers is for a long time because my ex is a diagnosed aspie. I have thought it was possible that I have it for a while but only recently started really considering it truthfully. All of the personal research I have done in the past has been related to males. I decided to investigate how it works in females. Although many of the "symptoms" for lack of a better word are the same, I have come to realize that it manifests quite differently in females. I find The female experience really resonates with me. Anyway, I think this unintentionally pissing people off theory is quite interesting, I had not yet considered that this might be related. Thank you for your insight.



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06 Apr 2011, 4:38 pm

^^^ Welcome to WP!

If you think this is negative, you should head over to the PPR forum.


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06 Apr 2011, 4:46 pm

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that's not what you asked. you asked "Is it typical of someone with aspergers to be unintentionally rude and unintentionally piss people off?", which is a STUPID QUESTION.


Notice the second part, "unintentionally piss people off"? My model of "pissing people off" goes way beyond simply being rude. Being pissed off is enough to cause someone to drastically react to what you said/acted, instead of simply being merely offended, as is typical of garden-variety rudenesses.

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and i told you to stop being stupid. so STOP IT. you're pissing me off.


Unintentionally or intentionally?

I see you have a lot of intentional experience with that.


you're pissing me off by being stupid. stupid people ALWAYS piss me off because they're STUPID and they need to STOP THAT.

i told you to stop TWICE NOW!! STOP!


If by stupid, you mean "stop PWNing Torako's replies with brutal logic and clever replies", I'll get around to it one of these days.



This is too funny. Are you giving him a hard time to piss him off or are you really confused by what he means by stupid?



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06 Apr 2011, 6:05 pm

I thought the thread was started as a sarcastic joke. I guess the joke is on me. Then again, this is too pathetic to be funny.



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06 Apr 2011, 6:17 pm

In my case, nine out of ten times, it's intentional.


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06 Apr 2011, 6:55 pm

Are swbluto and torako working this thread as a team? Like Martin and Lewis, Abbot and Costello, Laurel and Hardy? (Most people here are probably too young to know those names) It would make a funny presentation at an Autism seminar or a school project on Autism/Asperger's. If not, swbluto has amazing aplomb and control.

I piss people off all the time, unintentionally. My husband is not talking to me right now because this morning I asked him if he was mad at me and he flew into a rage. He mimicked me making a grotesque, distorted face and a voice that sounded like a ghoul or something howling "Are you mad at me?" I asked him (very nicely and sincerely, in a calm voice) because he seemed to have gotten sullen and grouchy for no reason that I could determine and so I thought maybe I unintentionally said or did something that pissed him off. I haven't asked him if he was mad at me for a very long time because it always makes him mad when I ask that, but I never can tell if he's mad at me and only have a change in his behavior to go on and when his mood suddenly changes I always think I've done something to make him mad. I hate it. I will never ask him if he is mad at me again.

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06 Apr 2011, 9:10 pm

League_Girl wrote:
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that's not what you asked. you asked "Is it typical of someone with aspergers to be unintentionally rude and unintentionally piss people off?", which is a STUPID QUESTION.


Notice the second part, "unintentionally piss people off"? My model of "pissing people off" goes way beyond simply being rude. Being pissed off is enough to cause someone to drastically react to what you said/acted, instead of simply being merely offended, as is typical of garden-variety rudenesses.

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and i told you to stop being stupid. so STOP IT. you're pissing me off.


Unintentionally or intentionally?

I see you have a lot of intentional experience with that.


you're pissing me off by being stupid. stupid people ALWAYS piss me off because they're STUPID and they need to STOP THAT.

i told you to stop TWICE NOW!! STOP!


If by stupid, you mean "stop PWNing Torako's replies with brutal logic and clever replies", I'll get around to it one of these days.



This is too funny. Are you giving him a hard time to piss him off or are you really confused by what he means by stupid?


i am not male, you IDIOT.



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06 Apr 2011, 10:42 pm

Torako's just looking to pick a fight with anyone, huh?


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06 Apr 2011, 10:52 pm

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Torako's just looking to pick a fight with anyone, huh?


I'm thinking so. :lol:

I'm really liking the irony of her latest post, considering that League_Girl never mentioned that she was a guy as all gender referenced pronouns ("he" and "him") were directed towards me.

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This is too funny. Are you giving him a hard time to piss him off or are you really confused by what he means by stupid?


i am not male, you IDIOT.



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06 Apr 2011, 11:06 pm

well to answer the f*****g question(s) the op asked, i would say "yes". i seem to do this at the most awkward/strange/wrong times and get chewed out for it. and yes this thread has definitely been a funny one. keep it up, idiots. :lol: :wink:



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06 Apr 2011, 11:47 pm

torako wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
swbluto wrote:
torako wrote:
swbluto wrote:
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that's not what you asked. you asked "Is it typical of someone with aspergers to be unintentionally rude and unintentionally piss people off?", which is a STUPID QUESTION.


Notice the second part, "unintentionally piss people off"? My model of "pissing people off" goes way beyond simply being rude. Being pissed off is enough to cause someone to drastically react to what you said/acted, instead of simply being merely offended, as is typical of garden-variety rudenesses.

Quote:
and i told you to stop being stupid. so STOP IT. you're pissing me off.


Unintentionally or intentionally?

I see you have a lot of intentional experience with that.


you're pissing me off by being stupid. stupid people ALWAYS piss me off because they're STUPID and they need to STOP THAT.

i told you to stop TWICE NOW!! STOP!


If by stupid, you mean "stop PWNing Torako's replies with brutal logic and clever replies", I'll get around to it one of these days.



This is too funny. Are you giving him a hard time to piss him off or are you really confused by what he means by stupid?


i am not male, you IDIOT.


Did I call you a male? Where?

How do I view profiles here to make sure someone is male or female?



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07 Apr 2011, 12:38 am

League_Girl wrote:
torako wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
swbluto wrote:
torako wrote:
swbluto wrote:
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that's not what you asked. you asked "Is it typical of someone with aspergers to be unintentionally rude and unintentionally piss people off?", which is a STUPID QUESTION.


Notice the second part, "unintentionally piss people off"? My model of "pissing people off" goes way beyond simply being rude. Being pissed off is enough to cause someone to drastically react to what you said/acted, instead of simply being merely offended, as is typical of garden-variety rudenesses.

Quote:
and i told you to stop being stupid. so STOP IT. you're pissing me off.


Unintentionally or intentionally?

I see you have a lot of intentional experience with that.


you're pissing me off by being stupid. stupid people ALWAYS piss me off because they're STUPID and they need to STOP THAT.

i told you to stop TWICE NOW!! STOP!


If by stupid, you mean "stop PWNing Torako's replies with brutal logic and clever replies", I'll get around to it one of these days.



This is too funny. Are you giving him a hard time to piss him off or are you really confused by what he means by stupid?


i am not male, you IDIOT.


Did I call you a male? Where?

How do I view profiles here to make sure someone is male or female?


i assumed you were talking about me with the "he"s, since you said "are you confused by what HE means by stupid?" and i was the one who called the OP stupid, and the OP was the only one who might have been confused by the meaning of "stupid"...



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07 Apr 2011, 1:30 am

torako wrote:
"hello, my name is swbluto, and i have never once bothered to research the symptoms of autism, preferring to ask a very stupid question on a forum!"


Wow dude way to be an assh***. Also calm the f**k down. If you don't like what to OP has to say then just get off this thread and then BAM you cant see what you call stupid anymore!


And to answer the OP I have to clarify soo many things with people! It could even be the simplest thing, but I still sometimes don't really get it. No one has every really been mean about it though. At least to my face they weren't mean.

And of course people usually get confused with how i explain or say things. That is really annoying.



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07 Apr 2011, 3:28 am

Well first of all you piss people off because you assume that the group you joined which consists of "rugged individualists who make up their own rules in life" is just that when in reality it isn't. In actuality they are conformists that conform to the social rules of the particular group. For example the hippie group you joined thinks they are different because all the men have long hair. But in reality having long hair is not different because everyone in the group has long hair. To be different in that group you would cut your hair but then you would find yourself ostracized as if long hair had some magical property.

Recently I joined what I thought was a support group for people with schizophrenia and autism. But it actually was a support group for mental illness deniers. So when I confided to the group that I am a person that is regarded as having autism and maybe that they are right I was immediately reprimanded and the website was deleted by the administator.

What pisses people off is if you skillfully challenge their belief systems with your superior logic. Autistics love to quote those verses in the bible that support Communism to the religious fundamentalists who claim the Bible is inerrant yet can't face the reality that thier loved ones died for nothing in a stupid war.