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31 May 2011, 1:49 am

AMEN BROTHER BROTHER



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31 May 2011, 5:38 am

Dark_Lord_2008 wrote:
"I have Asperger's" is no excuse. If a kid says something rude to you, you tell them why it was rude and why they shouldn't do that. If an adult does the same, and you rebuff them, and they just say "I have Asperger's, so I do that," then you tell them to go f**k themselves. If they say "oh, sorry..." then you accept their apology. People with Asperger's can learn social skills and not be a jerk. People can overcome it through effort and practice, so using it to excuse as*hole behavior is BS.

Try to substitute gentler words for vulgar ones. I know they feel good, but can get you in trouble... 8)

Otherwise, I agree with you. :)



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31 May 2011, 5:58 am

I agree with the statement, "We shouldn't use our diagnoses as an escuse. We should take personal responsibility for our actions."

I disagree with the statement, "Go f... yourself for saying you have asperger's when you screw up."

Am I the only one that see the difference between the two? Am I the only one that this thread infuriates?


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31 May 2011, 11:22 am

Seph wrote:
I agree with the statement, "We shouldn't use our diagnoses as an escuse. We should take personal responsibility for our actions."

I disagree with the statement, "Go f... yourself for saying you have asperger's when you screw up."

Am I the only one that see the difference between the two? Am I the only one that this thread infuriates?


The OP is a self-confessed troll.


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31 May 2011, 11:33 am

Seph wrote:
Am I the only one that see the difference between the two? Am I the only one that this thread infuriates?


You're likely not the only one to get mad over the OP, but I'd concentrate on the productive discussion that's followed for pages. Why argue with a troll that won't return when you can participate in a productive discussion about an actual topic?



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31 May 2011, 11:38 am

^^^ Absolutely.

Nothing better than when a troll turns into a rational discussion. I suppose that gets rather boring for the troll quite quickly.



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31 May 2011, 1:57 pm

I haven't noticed anymore posts by him. I wonder if he got banned or left?



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31 May 2011, 3:44 pm

Agree, but I'm tired learn and learn rules only for other people feel comfortable with me.



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31 May 2011, 4:38 pm

wefunction wrote:
Seph wrote:
Am I the only one that see the difference between the two? Am I the only one that this thread infuriates?


You're likely not the only one to get mad over the OP, but I'd concentrate on the productive discussion that's followed for pages. Why argue with a troll that won't return when you can participate in a productive discussion about an actual topic?


Point taken.

It's my Asperger's.

/cough cough


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03 Jun 2011, 5:15 am

a bit of a rude OP post, but yeah i mean i kind of agree - you shouldn't use it as an alibi to be rude, but on the other hand if you have aspergers and are unintentionally being rude letting them know you have it will actually help them understand (hopefully) and they won't take your unintended rudeness personally. that's not an excuse, it's just an explanation.



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03 Jun 2011, 8:28 am

it actually is a perfectly acceptable excuse what are you talking about



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03 Jun 2011, 8:37 am

wefunction wrote:
Seph wrote:
Am I the only one that see the difference between the two? Am I the only one that this thread infuriates?


You're likely not the only one to get mad over the OP, but I'd concentrate on the productive discussion that's followed for pages. Why argue with a troll that won't return when you can participate in a productive discussion about an actual topic?


Wise words and point taken.

I was about to put down some choice observations - but yes it's better to sit quietly and enjoy your burger and leave the troll hungry than hurl food at the caged thing - which is what it was actually after...



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03 Jun 2011, 8:55 am

donnie_darko wrote:
a bit of a rude OP post, but yeah i mean i kind of agree - you shouldn't use it as an alibi to be rude, but on the other hand if you have aspergers and are unintentionally being rude letting them know you have it will actually help them understand (hopefully) and they won't take your unintended rudeness personally. that's not an excuse, it's just an explanation.


Yeah, I agree with that. Sometimes, it is warranted though. A few examples: I have trouble recognizing faces so I will not greet people whom I meet randomly. So when someone mentions it, I say something like: "you know, I am so bad recognizing people that I sometimes don't even recognize my mother" and am not even lieing. These are things I cannot change. However, there are things which I can change, like in social skills, a lot is just a protocol. A computer can learn DHCP, I can learn small talk enough to keep my call center job. It kinda frustrates me that people just give up on things like that.


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03 Jun 2011, 10:08 am

LostInEmulation wrote:
donnie_darko wrote:
a bit of a rude OP post, but yeah i mean i kind of agree - you shouldn't use it as an alibi to be rude, but on the other hand if you have aspergers and are unintentionally being rude letting them know you have it will actually help them understand (hopefully) and they won't take your unintended rudeness personally. that's not an excuse, it's just an explanation.


Yeah, I agree with that. Sometimes, it is warranted though. A few examples: I have trouble recognizing faces so I will not greet people whom I meet randomly. So when someone mentions it, I say something like: "you know, I am so bad recognizing people that I sometimes don't even recognize my mother" and am not even lieing. These are things I cannot change. However, there are things which I can change, like in social skills, a lot is just a protocol. A computer can learn DHCP, I can learn small talk enough to keep my call center job. It kinda frustrates me that people just give up on things like that.

I find small talk to be quite useless so I don't really want to learn how to do that......I see nothing wrong with being quiet until I actually have something to say. So I did not really give up on it, I am just not intrested.



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03 Jun 2011, 5:48 pm

To be clear, the OP wasn't talking about deliberately being rude and using AS as an excuse at all - he was saying that if grubby little autistic people want to share the light with polite society then they had better learn their damned manners...

I for one am quite angry at that. I'm hugely impessed that the members here subsequently turned the insult aside and generated a real rational discussion but I'm still angry.



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04 Jun 2011, 12:54 am

So you have signed up on this site and you claim to have Aspergers. Maybe you have it or maybe you do not have it. You just do not really know and you are self diagniosed Aspergers by simply signing up for WP and saying I am now self Diagnosed

Aspergers is a lifestyle choice and by having Aspergers you have special powers. You can read people's minds, predict the future(maybe the winning lottery numbers or winning sports teams or the questions for the Exam paper), the possibilities of your special abilities/talents are endless.

I have Aspergers, you have Aspergers, my cat, my dog, my family and friends all have Aspergers and all embrace the Aspergers lifestyle.

Aspergers is a super ability, not a disability. With Aspergers you may have special super human talents/abilities.