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Gedrene
Never give in. Always find a way.
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[quote="Raptor"] | Gedrene wrote: |
| Raptor wrote: | Hell, if I’d stayed with my parents any longer than I did I’d be on death row and they’d have both been murdered for being annoying.
Bullying?
What about it?
I’ve been bullied in and in turn I’ve dished out my fair share of bullying.
It’s a give and take kind of world and will continue to be. |
...yeah.
I have bullied people before, but I made sure to quickly change my ways and even apologize. I consider someone who does something nasty for a bad reason to not only be a monster, but a threat to my well-being. The only people who say 'it's a give and take world' are the kind of people who say 'if it aint broke don't fix it', when there are improvements to be made, the people who say '1 failure to 9 successes' in the height of the great leap forward. There is one religious phrase I like: Evil begets evil. I like to break the cycle. |
| Raptor wrote: | Only someone like you could take a real world comon sense phrase like "it's a give and take world "and write a condemning paragraph like that just because.
Whatever......... |
Well actually no, I wrote a critical paragraph because of comments like this:
| Raptor wrote: | | Hell, if I’d stayed with my parents any longer than I did I’d be on death row and they’d have both been murdered for being annoying |
This is considered normal or common sense?
| Raptor wrote: | | I’ve been bullied in and in turn I’ve dished out my fair share of bullying. |
This isn't common sense. This is just being a jerk. Bullying other people just because it happens. That's what you were saying.
I pointed out the paragraph as soon as you started talking about murdering your parents for being annoying and saying that bullying others is fine because it's 'give and take'. Trying to isolate the one acceptable comment in what you said and holding it against me isn't going to get you anywhere when the rest of what you said is quite deserving of what I said is pretty damned desperate. In the context of the rest of what you said 'Give and take' in fact even that doesn't come across as sensible. It's a give and take world doesn't justify bullying. That's just circular thinking of the cruellest kind.
| Raptor wrote: | Oops, almost forgot the eye rollers.......
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Yes, because adding redundant layers of sarcasm is really helping your case. Your attempt to create a running joke to spite me is vindictive. |
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Sweetleaf
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Gedrene wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | Gedrene wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | No we all suck... |
Sweetleaf, I don't suck. A lot of us don't suck. Just because your life sucks and you don't know how to get yourself out of it doesn't mean you need to drag me down with you. |
It was mostly sarcasm, except I still kinda think I suck.....but I can't speak for everyone. No need to be so harsh when my comment was not even directed at you...yeah my life sucks and i don't know how to get myself out of it, do you have a problem with that? |
Well you don't suck. So far your only problem is that you only defend doing things that you know don't help you at all, and have told me as such as well. |
Yeah I do kinda suck as I mentioned even college is not going well anymore and I have no real job skills.....and what things that I know don't help at all do I defend? if you are talking about the cannabis I actually think that does help me but thats the only thing I can think of that you would be referring to.
And if that were true how is that my only problem? I am pretty sure I have more than one problem right now.......Depression is a pretty big one as is the anxiety and whatever else is wrong with my mind. |
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Gedrene
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Sweetleaf wrote: |
Yeah I do kinda suck as I mentioned even college is not going well anymore and I have no real job skills.....and what things that I know don't help at all do I defend? if you are talking about the cannabis I actually think that does help me but thats the only thing I can think of that you would be referring to.
And if that were true how is that my only problem? I am pretty sure I have more than one problem right now.......Depression is a pretty big one as is the anxiety and whatever else is wrong with my mind. |
So basically you're letting one group of problems in your lifestyle feed the other group of problems in your lifestyle it sounds like. Depression and general downcast attitude feeds bad results and bad life, feed depression and general downcast attitude ad infinitum. Something wrong with this evaluation? Also, why do you suck? You're polite. You don't get whacked off with me because you're not impatient, and you sound like someone I can trust to have at my back. So you don't suck. |
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Sweetleaf
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Gedrene wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: |
Yeah I do kinda suck as I mentioned even college is not going well anymore and I have no real job skills.....and what things that I know don't help at all do I defend? if you are talking about the cannabis I actually think that does help me but thats the only thing I can think of that you would be referring to.
And if that were true how is that my only problem? I am pretty sure I have more than one problem right now.......Depression is a pretty big one as is the anxiety and whatever else is wrong with my mind. |
So basically you're letting one group of problems in your lifestyle feed the other group of problems in your lifestyle it sounds like. Depression and general downcast attitude feeds bad results and bad life, feed depression and general downcast attitude ad infinitum. Something wrong with this evaluation? Also, why do you suck? You're polite. You don't get whacked off with me because you're not impatient, and you sound like someone I can trust to have at my back. So you don't suck. |
I don't feel I am to blame for my current state of mind...of course I don't always handle things in the best way which can certainly contribute but other people have contributed, my environment has contributed, my genetics have contributed. I have anxiety with my depression so its really difficult not to obsess over how I feel. Depression is more then just a downcast attitude, its a quite horrible thing to deal with but yes feeling that way adds to negitve thinking and negitve thinking can feed depression.....its a vicious cycle pretty much.
I suck because I'm burnt out on college, and suck at working......sure I try and treat others how I want to be treated, I always try to find the good in people but what employer cares if you're a good person? they prefer competitive people who are willing to put their morals aside to play the game. |
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Gedrene
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Sweetleaf wrote: |
I don't feel I am to blame for my current state of mind...of course I don't always handle things in the best way which can certainly contribute but other people have contributed, my environment has contributed, my genetics have contributed. I have anxiety with my depression so its really difficult not to obsess over how I feel. Depression is more then just a downcast attitude, its a quite horrible thing to deal with but yes feeling that way adds to negitve thinking and negitve thinking can feed depression.....its a vicious cycle pretty much. |
I don't blame you for being depressed. Autistic people just tend to be sensitive about all sorts of social ills like bullying. They cannot ignore the terrible feelings it causes. It's just that you're in a psychological trap. It takes extraordinary effort and perseverance and understanding to change it, or a change in lifestyle initiated from the outside.
| Sweetleaf wrote: | | I suck because I'm burnt out on college, and suck at working......sure I try and treat others how I want to be treated, I always try to find the good in people but what employer cares if you're a good person? they prefer competitive people who are willing to put their morals aside to play the game. |
I know. I deal with that fact every day of my life. But Sweetleaf, if we as a community ever aggregated, then I can be sure that I would trust you. I'd prefer to nurture you, rather than go for some borderline sociopath who got through the hard knock life because he had a tiny conscience. |
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Raptor
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Do apies have a life ? |
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[quote="Gedrene"] | Raptor wrote: | | Gedrene wrote: |
| Raptor wrote: | Hell, if I’d stayed with my parents any longer than I did I’d be on death row and they’d have both been murdered for being annoying.
Bullying?
What about it?
I’ve been bullied in and in turn I’ve dished out my fair share of bullying.
It’s a give and take kind of world and will continue to be. |
...yeah.
I have bullied people before, but I made sure to quickly change my ways and even apologize. I consider someone who does something nasty for a bad reason to not only be a monster, but a threat to my well-being. The only people who say 'it's a give and take world' are the kind of people who say 'if it aint broke don't fix it', when there are improvements to be made, the people who say '1 failure to 9 successes' in the height of the great leap forward. There is one religious phrase I like: Evil begets evil. I like to break the cycle. |
| Raptor wrote: | Only someone like you could take a real world comon sense phrase like "it's a give and take world "and write a condemning paragraph like that just because.
Whatever......... |
Well actually no, I wrote a critical paragraph because of comments like this:
| Raptor wrote: | | Hell, if I’d stayed with my parents any longer than I did I’d be on death row and they’d have both been murdered for being annoying |
This is considered normal or common sense?
| Raptor wrote: | | I’ve been bullied in and in turn I’ve dished out my fair share of bullying. |
This isn't common sense. This is just being a jerk. Bullying other people just because it happens. That's what you were saying.
I pointed out the paragraph as soon as you started talking about murdering your parents for being annoying and saying that bullying others is fine because it's 'give and take'. Trying to isolate the one acceptable comment in what you said and holding it against me isn't going to get you anywhere when the rest of what you said is quite deserving of what I said is pretty damned desperate. In the context of the rest of what you said 'Give and take' in fact even that doesn't come across as sensible. It's a give and take world doesn't justify bullying. That's just circular thinking of the cruellest kind.
| Raptor wrote: | Oops, almost forgot the eye rollers.......
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Yes, because adding redundant layers of sarcasm is really helping your case. Your attempt to create a running joke to spite me is vindictive. |
Just as a warning this is going to call for a triple eye-roll at the end.
The thing about killing my parents for being annoying was meant as dark humor, and obviously not to be taken literally.
As for the bullying thing what I meant was just as I wrote, not what you elected to read into it just out of need for a pathetic comeback.
You need to come over to the Politics, Philosophy, and Religion forum. If your this quarrelsome all the time that would be just the place.
The only running joke here is you…….
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Gedrene
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:40 am Post subject: Re: Do apies have a life ? |
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| Raptor wrote: |
The thing about killing my parents for being annoying was meant as dark humor, and obviously not to be taken literally. |
Yes, of course. Convenient. Unfalsifiable. Unverifiable. Absolutely out of context with the rest of what you said. Extraordinarily stupid nonetheless. An argument from incredulity is the only thing defending you here, and that's a logical fallacy in of itself.
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As for the bullying thing what I meant was just as I wrote, not what you elected to read into it just out of need for a pathetic comeback. |
Yep, yep. I read that you said it's a give and take word. You bully people. People bullied you. That's the way the world works. Sounds like a justification to me. Also I don't make comebacks, because I am not pathetic. I make counter-arguments.
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You need to come over to the Politics, Philosophy, and Religion forum. If your this quarrelsome all the time that would be just the place. |
Maybe you should start by looking where anyone else has started whinging about where I should go, and find out that no one else does it. Maybe you should start looking at the fact that you have managed to turn the argument from death penalty versus not death penalty in to 'I am not going to directly attack you because I can't justify anything I said'. If the PPR forum is filled with people who make insinuations and blind accusations like you then maybe they sound call it the Hecklers' club, but then again I might be offending hecklers unduly there...
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The only running joke here is you…….
And, as promised |
Ad hominem arguments, argument from mockery. Real laughing stocks are built on arguments like these. I never said anyone was a running joke anyway. I said the eyerolls were. So what you're saying just comes across as bitter and it's also pathetic. Trying to fling mud and hoping that I'd care to rise to it. As usual the eyerolls betray a triteness and vengefulness that by all means needs no further explanation. So much for your identification of who is a laughing stock. |
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Raptor
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:33 am Post subject: Re: Do apies have a life ? |
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| Gedrene wrote: | | Raptor wrote: |
The thing about killing my parents for being annoying was meant as dark humor, and obviously not to be taken literally. |
Yes, of course. Convenient. Unfalsifiable. Unverifiable. Absolutely out of context with the rest of what you said. Extraordinarily stupid nonetheless. An argument from incredulity is the only thing defending you here, and that's a logical fallacy in of itself.
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As for the bullying thing what I meant was just as I wrote, not what you elected to read into it just out of need for a pathetic comeback. |
Yep, yep. I read that you said it's a give and take word. You bully people. People bullied you. That's the way the world works. Sounds like a justification to me. Also I don't make comebacks, because I am not pathetic. I make counter-arguments.
| Raptor wrote: |
You need to come over to the Politics, Philosophy, and Religion forum. If your this quarrelsome all the time that would be just the place. |
Maybe you should start by looking where anyone else has started whinging about where I should go, and find out that no one else does it. Maybe you should start looking at the fact that you have managed to turn the argument from death penalty versus not death penalty in to 'I am not going to directly attack you because I can't justify anything I said'. If the PPR forum is filled with people who make insinuations and blind accusations like you then maybe they sound call it the Hecklers' club, but then again I might be offending hecklers unduly there...
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The only running joke here is you…….
And, as promised |
Ad hominem arguments, argument from mockery. Real laughing stocks are built on arguments like these. I never said anyone was a running joke anyway. I said the eyerolls were. So what you're saying just comes across as bitter and it's also pathetic. Trying to fling mud and hoping that I'd care to rise to it. As usual the eyerolls betray a triteness and vengefulness that by all means needs no further explanation. So much for your identification of who is a
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Your replies are proof that there is in fact free wifi at the state mental institution.
You have NO grasp of dry wit, dark humor, or even the fact that someone could possibly have a differnt view of anything.
You pick other peoples' posts apart and you overstate your own points ad nauseam.
Call it what you want but Im done with you in this thread.
For me to continue on would be picking on the mentally handycapped.
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Gedrene
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:14 am Post subject: Re: Do apies have a life ? |
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| Raptor wrote: |
Your replies are proof that there is in fact free wifi at the state mental institution. |
This is just outright pointless slander now. I don't stoop to the level of saying you have mental issues.
| Raptor wrote: | | You have NO grasp of dry wit, dark humor, or even the fact that someone could possibly have a differnt view of anything. |
I do have a grasp of them. The fact is that you have no ability to tell when it is wholly inappropriate. I began by showing how what you said was inappropriate, saying that you'd kill your own parents 'for being annoying'. How dare I then disagree that you were trying to be ironic, or use 'dark humour', when the rest of what you said was deadpan serious. Well, how dare I indeed.
| Raptor wrote: | | You pick other peoples' posts apart and you overstate your own points ad nauseam. |
How do I make points ad nauseam if I pick apart your posts? Ad nauseam implies that I am just reiterating and not taking account of what you are saying, but I have each time been picking apart what you say. So yeah, even your own posts contradict your false assertions.
You are the only one who has done anything ad nauseam:
| Raptor wrote: | | forgot the eye-roller so here ya go There, a matching pair! |
| Raptor wrote: | | Oops, almost forgot the eye rollers....... |
| Raptor wrote: | | And, as promised |
And it's the worst kind too. You only started using that trick because you thought it might hurt me. It's frankly disgusting. If you don't want me to make similar sounding arguments then maybe you should stop doing such inane rubbish like this constantly.
One more thing you might not understand. Maybe you don't get what the point of analysis is. Analysis is where you pick apart something and try to figure out or interpret it for what it is. It is much better than making opinionated, self-serving benders as way of a response because it actually means you are being objective. So far you have never challenged my objectivity, just made more and more heinous accusations about me. It's the refuge of every person who can't actually keep a lid on their ego.
| Raptor wrote: | Call it what you want but Im done with you in this thread.
For me to continue on would be picking on the mentally handycapped.
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Here we go, the good old 'you're to blame because you wont listen' trick.
All this time you are the one who has made these backsliding comments about 'what you really meant' and skirted around actually responding to what I said directly by making each of your posts a postscript that barely takes account of what I am saying. Like every other idiot who doesn't listen, saying that you've had enough whilst at the same time including spite goes to show that you never intended to have a proper discussion, and that all you have done is tub-thumping for your own service.
And that is horrid of you to suggest any connection between me and the mentally handicapped, just because it is another of those gutless logical fallacies that attempts to draw attention away from any real argument you are making, and an attempt to discredit what I say based on some insult, rather than on the content of what I have put. |
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MONKEY
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Yes unless they're dead.
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rabbitears
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| MONKEY wrote: | | Yes unless they're dead. |
In that case most aspies do not have a life.
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MONKEY
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| rabbitears wrote: | | MONKEY wrote: | | Yes unless they're dead. |
In that case most aspies do not have a life. |
 You be correct.
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Sylkat
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Rabbitears and Monkey are very correct and very clever....Sylkat...  |
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Green89tom
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Most these aspies are half NT's.  |
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Fnord
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^ Some of us Aspies were simply too determined to make something of ourselves to wallow long in self-revulsion. This does not make us "Half-NTs".
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