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Do you think that Autism Speaks has changed for the better?
Yes. 13%  13%  [ 5 ]
No. 49%  49%  [ 19 ]
Not sure. 38%  38%  [ 15 ]
Total votes : 39

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08 Dec 2011, 12:50 pm

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Yes, we do. But being "cured" of something that isn't even a disease is another matter. This is something like a boy's parents wanting to "cure" his skin or hair colour, or even his shyness. In this case, they want to "cure" what he is.



A condition does not have to be classified as a disease to opt for a cure.

I look at like this: How can I infringe upon the rights of a parent who has an Autistic child that has physical and mental developmental handicaps so severe that they are going to need 24 hr care for the rest of their lives ? I don't have the financial resources to help such parents and i cant promise that their child will be taken care of after I'm gone. It would be disingenuous to look at this particular situation and say it was me. It's NOT. As a consequence, i simply believe in choice.

I understand and respect your position.

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08 Dec 2011, 12:52 pm

TheSunAlsoRises, that is YOUR opinion. It is not the autistics' fault why they were born that way. And Autism Speaks, IMO, exist to blame us why autism exists, and therefore, need to be eradicated.

1. For what purpose does Autism Speaks exist? We can put that in a nutshell instead of some legalese nonsense. It pushes for prenatal testing for autism, which can be used for pregnant women to abort autistic babies, in the same fashion that prenatal testing for Down syndrome caused babies with said condition to be aborted.

2. As for the board, Robison is on the lower helm. But what about those on the highest rung of their corporate ladder? As I have discussed, no autistic has ever been a member of the main board, and instead have bigoted, close-minded, Nazi people on the helm.

3. In the same way that the God Hates Fags group express their bigotry toward gay people (well, practically, toward everyone they have pet peeves on, including Obama, America, Jews, Catholic priests, and the world--but that's not the topic of this conversation), Autism Speaks express their bigotry toward the people they "claim" to "speak for": autistics. Watch some of their videos and see for yourself.

4. Serve? Really? Eradicating a potential and exterminating people Autism Speaks consider "undesirable"? And propagating bogus "cures" for autism, as well as the bull that "vaccines cause autism"? Does that sound helpful? I don't think so. Yeah, I know they are trying to veer away from the Aktion-T4 reputation that they have had (and I think they still have at this point), but still highly pathetic nonetheless. And sadly, that doesn't change their already diabolic reputation among autistics.

5. As I've said, not all people, autistic or not, can read LEGALESE. Just look at their financial statements for the past years (including this one).

As I've said, I will celebrate if Autism Speaks is disbanded and outlawed for their bigotry, much as I wanted the same fate for Scientology and God Hates Fags. Again, this is MY opinion.


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08 Dec 2011, 1:36 pm

[quote="theimperiousdork"]That is YOUR opinion. It is not the autistics' fault why they were born that way. And Autism Speaks, IMO, exist to blame us why autism exists, and therefore, need to be eradicated.

I don't believe anyone has accused or inferred that it was Autistics fault for being born; the way, they are. What i see, is a large number of adult Autistic self identifying with the plight of children. Personally, i don't believe a parent would associate with an organization who was trying to eradicate their children. So, the problem lies elsewhere.

1. For what purpose does Autism Speaks exist? We can put that in a nutshell instead of some legalese nonsense. It pushes for prenatal testing for autism, which can be used for pregnant women to abort autistic babies, in the same fashion that prenatal testing for Down syndrome caused babies with said condition to be aborted.

Autism Speaks exist to find ways to treat an unexplainable condition that appears to have increased significantly over a relatively short period of time. Prenatal testing is used for a number of reasons that benefit parents, children, and the scientific community. However, like all things in life, information can be used in a variety of ways. In other words, you can not prevent a parent from aborting a child based on ANY information that may be gathered through testing. A parent can abort their child based on gender(they wanted a daughter instead of a son). Should we prevent all prenatal testing based on the potential for abortion??

2. As for the board, Robison is on the lower helm. But what about those on the highest rung of their corporate ladder? As I have discussed, no autistic has ever been a member of the main board, and instead have bigoted, close-minded, Nazi people on the helm.

Mr. Robison is on an Autism Speaks board. This is a fact so ALL my points were NOT based upon opinion. No Autistic has been on the main board because Autistics represent a minute segment of the population. And, when an organization goes through the process of finding a member, they are interested in a number of things such as qualifications and available people willing to serve. Autism Speaks might have trouble finding BOTH. A person on the Spectrum willing to serve on a Board liken to" God Hates Fags" is a major problem. Wouldn't you think?

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08 Dec 2011, 2:01 pm

kobi_galon wrote:
Yes, we do. But being "cured" of something that isn't even a disease is another matter. This is something like a boy's parents wanting to "cure" his skin or hair colour, or even his shyness. In this case, they want to "cure" what he is.


To understand the organization it requires perspective on why the organization was actually founded, and the what the organization's actual mission is.

1. A child developed regressive autism and lost the ability to communicate with their parents. The parents wanted to know why this happened and what if anything could be done to help their child communicate.

2. It Just so happened that the grandparent of this child was a very influential individual with resources that had served as the Vice President of GE, President of NBC, and had developed networks like MSNBC and CNBC.

3. Having the influence and resources that grandparent decided he was going to take action to not only help his grandson potentially gain the ability to communicate again, but also to provide a voice for all disenfranchised families that were in similiar situations without the resources to do anything about it.

4. This is where they came up with the phrase autism speaks, giving families a voice who felt disenfranchised and also in hopes to eventually provide a voice for those children that could not speak with autism disorder. The phrase was never intended to mean speaking for autistic people that could speak for themselves.

5. The founder had a friend that donated 25 million dollars immediately to the cause, which allowed the hiring of top level talent for the successful development of a new charitable autism advocacy organization

6. They developed a mission statement with three main components

A. Funding global biomedical research into the causes, prevention, treatments, and cure for autism.

B. Raising public awareness about autism and its effects on individuals, families, and society.

C. Bringing hope to all who deal with the hardships of this disorder

7. Their goal has never been to cure those with Aspergers that do not experience disabling severe symptoms of autism. They focused first and foremost on children with autism disorder that did not have the ability to communicate like their grandson, and others like him, with regressive autism.

8. People in the general public were very concerned about these children with autism that lost their ability to communicate with the world, through these profoundly disabling cases of autism, so the organization was eventually able to organize and direct the support of 340,000 volunteers to spread awareness about autism and to motivate individuals to donate to the cause of helping these children with severely disabling cases of autism.

9. Cure means biomedical research into the causes, prevention, treatments, and cure for autism disorder. For the disabling symptoms like losing the ability to communicate, and the related comorbid conditions like severe gastrointestinal problems in autism disorder, as well.

It never meant curing those individuals with Aspergers that did not struggle with their form of Autism, as a condition with disabling symptoms. Their first and foremost concern was with those individuals with actual autism disorder, severely disabled by the condition, that could not communicate.

10. Since severely disabling symptoms of autism disorder was their concern this is the portrayal of the disorder they provided to the general public, to generate awareness, concern, and funding for these disabling cases of autism disorder.

11. Some took offense to that negative portrayal, those who did not suffer the severely disabling aspects of autism, who had an ability to speak, and Autism Speaks reacted by modifying their portrayal, as a less negative one.

12. Some autism organizations main mission is to provide direct financial aid to individuals with autism. Per the elements of Autism mission statement above, this is not part of autism speaks mission; they provide a tiny percentage of their funding to provide direct aid to autistic individuals.

If one does not agree with the research, awareness, and hope mission Autism Speaks supports, it is simply not an organization that one should support.

13. Some have argued that there is nefarious financials behind autism speaks, regarding salaries, and expenses.

14. The facts indicate the opposite. Autism Speaks receives a 3 out of 4 star rating for charitable organizations from the largest independent evaluator of charitable organizations, Charity Navigator. For perspective the Mayo clinic received a 1 out of 4 star rating. For transparency in accounting procedures the autism speaks organization received 4 out of 4 stars.

15. In addition the same organization, Charity Navigator, provides statistics that show that the Chief Executive Officers among 139 organizations of autism speaks size and location in the US, fall with the average median salaries of these similiar sized organizations.

16. Autism Speaks exceeds all standards for the Better Business Bureau organization, including limitations on administration expenses.

All the references to back up facts presented here are provided in the "Curious, why hate autism speaks" thread.



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08 Dec 2011, 2:05 pm

3. In the same way that the God Hates Fags group express their bigotry toward gay people (well, practically, toward everyone they have pet peeves on, including Obama, America, Jews, Catholic priests, and the world--but that's not the topic of this conversation), Autism Speaks express their bigotry toward the people they "claim" to "speak for": autistics. Watch some of their videos and see for yourself.


Does it remotely make sense that parents of precious little Autistic children would associate with a group that expresses bigotry, in particularly; the vitriolic type of bigotry that you expressed in your posts. Can you honestly pull up the God Hates Fag website and remotely compare it with Autism Speaks ?? Autism Speaks is a website full of beautiful Autistic children getting a whole lot of attention and love from parents and others. I hardly ever see an Autistic Adult on their website. And, this seems to be the problem.


4. Serve? Really? Eradicating a potential and exterminating people Autism Speaks consider "undesirable"? And propagating bogus "cures" for autism, as well as the bull that "vaccines cause autism"? Does that sound helpful? I don't think so. Yeah, I know they are trying to veer away from the Aktion-T4 reputation that have had (and I think they still have at this point), but still pathetic nonetheless.

No one is speaking of eradicating anyone, you based that assumption on information from per-natal testing that a parent will ultimately use to make their personal decision. Autism Speaks isn't responsible for choices ADULTS make after receiving information. In regards to vaccines, at that point in time, there were many parents looking for answers and vaccines were a suspected culprit.

5. As I've said, not all people, autistic or not, can read LEGALESE. Just look at their financial statements for the past years (including this one).

I have seen their financial statement for the last five years and i'm aware of where the money goes and why. The Autistic community tends to think that Autism Speaks should allocate more resources directly to the Autistic community without taking into consideration the cost and how such resources should be distributed.

As I've said, I will celebrate if Autism Speaks is disbanded and outlawed for their bigotry, much as I wanted the same fate for Scientology and God Hates Fags. Again, this is MY opinion.[/quote]


Pure Emotionalism. Interesting Indeed.


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08 Dec 2011, 2:33 pm

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If you read my previous post, you'll see that I'm not talking about the organisation. I said it myself that I couldn't give my opinion about Autism Speaks because I don't know it enough. This is my view on the "cure" thing.


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08 Dec 2011, 3:15 pm

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If you read my previous post, you'll see that I'm not talking about the organisation. I said it myself that I couldn't give my opinion about Autism Speaks because I don't know it enough. This is my view on the "cure" thing.


Understood. That is exactly why I provided the background on the organization, to provide an understanding of what the organization means by cure. You are not defining cure the way the Autism speaks organization defines cure, in regard to autism. It isn't about changing the essence of the autistic individual.

It does not mean eradicating autistic individuals, it means eliminating disabling symptoms of autism and the co-morbid conditions associated with autism.

There is hope for a cure for gastrointestinal issues co-mobid with autism, and there is hope that an intervention, or a prevention will be provided that will one day allow autistic children who do not have the ability to speak, to be able to speak, and eventually gain independence in life.

People with aspergers don't have significant clinical delays in speech, and regressive autism isn't something associated with aspergers, much of what autism speaks seeks to do, in the way of a cure, prevention, treatments and intervention is not associated with aspergers.

A person that can speak cannot imagine what it would be like not to be able to communicate without speech, nor can a person without severe gastrointestinal problems understand the full impact of the way it affects the individual with this condition.

A parent has the responsibility and right to seek treatment, prevention, and a cure for what ails their child and makes life difficult for them.

There is nothing good about losing communication abilities and there is nothing good about gastrointestinal illnesses. The people that support autism speaks aren't looking to cure Aspergers, they are looking to cure the disabling symptoms and co-morbid conditions associated with autism.

There are other organizations like the Aspergers Association of New England that focus on the need of individuals with Aspergers that attempt to provide the direct support those individuals need.

Autism Speaks has supported very little research into studies associated with Aspergers, and have recently got involved in research into providing knowledge to understand what the needs of adults with autism needs are in the adult community.

To this point all autism speaks has really done for aspergers is provide general awareness of the condition, through a page on their website, and resources for individuals with aspergers on their website.

Aspergers hasn't been the focus of the organization, and the founders still maintain in a recent statement that they made on the Penn State tragedy, that those with autism that do not have the ability to speak is their first and foremost conern.



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08 Dec 2011, 3:27 pm

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kobi_galon wrote:
aghogday

If you read my previous post, you'll see that I'm not talking about the organisation. I said it myself that I couldn't give my opinion about Autism Speaks because I don't know it enough. This is my view on the "cure" thing.


Understood. That is exactly why I provided the background on the organization, to provide an understanding of what the organization means by cure. You are not defining cure the way the Autism speaks organization defines cure, in regard to autism. It isn't about changing the essence of the autistic individual.

It does not mean eradicating autistic individuals, it means eliminating disabling symptoms of autism and the co-morbid conditions associated with autism.

There is hope for a cure for gastrointestinal issues co-mobid with autism, and there is hope that an intervention, or a prevention will be provided that will one day allow autistic children who do not have the ability to speak, to be able to speak, and eventually gain independence in life.

People with aspergers don't have significant clinical delays in speech, and regressive autism isn't something associated with aspergers, much of what autism speaks seeks to do, in the way of a cure, prevention, treatments and intervention is not associated with aspergers.

A person that can speak cannot imagine what it would be like not to be able to communicate without speech, nor can a person without severe gastrointestinal problems understand the full impact of the way it affects the individual with this condition.

A parent has the responsibility and right to seek treatment, prevention, and a cure for what ails their child and makes life difficult for them.

There is nothing good about losing communication abilities and there is nothing good about gastrointestinal illnesses. The people that support autism speaks aren't looking to cure Aspergers, they are looking to cure the disabling symptoms and co-morbid conditions associated with autism.

There are other organizations like the Aspergers Association of New England that focus on the need of individuals with Aspergers that attempt to provide the direct support those individuals need.

Autism Speaks has supported very little research into studies associated with Aspergers, and have recently got involved in research into providing knowledge to understand what the needs of adults with autism needs are in the adult community.

To this point all autism speaks has really done for aspergers is provide general awareness of the condition, through a page on their website, and resources for individuals with aspergers on their website.

Aspergers hasn't been the focus of the organization, and the founders still maintain in a recent statement that they made on the Penn State tragedy, that those with autism that do not have the ability to speak is their first and foremost conern.


Your post are extremely informative. Thank You.

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08 Dec 2011, 3:43 pm

Your welcome, here is the interview previously discussed in threads here on Wrong Planet where members from the autistic community came up with questions for Autism Speaks and the organization was allowed to respond to the questions in a written interview with their VP for PR. It addresses and clarifies many of the concerns that have been brought up in this thread, regarding autism speaks, a cure, a prenatal test, etc.

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Autism Speaks

An Interview with
Dana Marnane, Vice President, Awareness and Events

In this groundbreaking interview, Marnane discusses
Autism Speaks’ controversial past, the possibility of an autism cure, the future of this powerful organization, and more…


By John Scott Holman

How many times have members of the autistic community shouted variations of the following questions while waving picket signs? How many keyboards have been attacked by the fingers of enraged autistics hurling such questions into cyberspace? Never before has a representative of Autism Speaks offered so many answers directly to an openly hostile online community. Never… before today.

John Elder Robison, acclaimed author of “Look Me in the Eye” and “Be Different: Adventures of a Free Range Aspergian,” expressed the necessity of this endeavor, “Autism affects us in many different ways. I feel the pain of being forever an outsider. My son is now going down that same road, as a 21-year-old with Asperger’s. Do I want to develop therapies and tools to help him have a better life? You bet.

Would I call that a cure? Of course not. I would call that helping him learn to fit in and get by.

Autism Speaks was founded by parents and grandparents… as the organization has matured, it has begun seeking alternate points of view from folks like you and me… it’s here to stay, and we will all achieve far more if we get together and talk. I invite you to join the conversation.”

I wish to extend my gratitude to all the members of aspiesforfreedom.com who offered their support and suggestions throughout the undertaking of this venture. You all helped to produce something truly meaningful, the impact of which will not be easily measured.

I am no one special. I am merely an individual who laid down my picket sign and politely demanded to be heard. Many joined me in this demand.

We all have a voice, and together our voices are a cry for freedom and equality which cannot be ignored.

I submitted the following questions to Dana Marnane, who promptly and enthusiastically responded.


1. How does Autism Speaks account for the large community of self-advocating autistics who oppose their organization? Does Autism Speaks feel this population has misunderstood their message, and if so, what might you say to clarify your intentions?

A: Autism Speaks’ mission is to improve the lives of people with autism spectrum disorders (ASD) and their families. ASD is a very heterogeneous condition and, thus, the needs of the autism community are diverse. However, a core mission at Autism Speaks is to help each individual and each family address their unique struggles and help each person with ASD live the most productive and meaningful life possible. One person with ASD might define his or her greatest challenge as the need for gainful employment and full acceptance by society, whereas another person with ASD might be most affected by severe, intractable seizures or other disabling medical problems that can often co-exist with an autism diagnosis. We believe that all of these issues deserve research and advocacy.

One tension that exists is whether basic research on the biology of autism or studies focused on services is more deserving. We believe we need to fund both kinds of research. The basic research, including genetic and other biomedical studies, offers the best hope that we will be able to help the person with seizures or other severe medical problems. Such research may also lead to treatments that improve communication and social skills. When Autism Speaks first began, much of our funding was directed toward basic research. However, over the past few years, we have been balancing this basic research with studies that are developing new service and support programs for people at all points on the autism spectrum. We have also directed more funds toward advocacy efforts and research focused on adults with ASD. Among our six targeted research emphasis areas is a focus on understanding adult development, including issues related to successful outcomes, interventions and supports, and medical issues. As a result of our soliciting these kinds of research proposals, we are funding more and more studies that focus on issues that adults with ASD face as they seek to live fulfilling, independent and productive lives.

2. Autism Speaks funds the Autism Genome project, described, on autismspeaks.org, as, "the largest study ever conducted to find the genes associated with inherited risk for autism." What specific benefits might this research provide the autistic community? Why might so many autistics oppose such research?

A: We are working hard to understand the biological basis of autism as this will help us target medical treatments to the individuals who need and want them. We now know that autism isn’t one condition, but rather many conditions with many different causes and biologies. Genes are one way of helping to categorize the different autisms so that treatments can be more effective. For example, some, but not all, people with ASD have sleep problems and, in some cases, it appears to be linked to a gene involved in melatonin production (melatonin regulates our sleep cycle). By identifying individuals with that genetic variation, we can hopefully identify those people who would be most likely to respond to melatonin supplementation. This is just one example, but there are many others like it. Genes are one of the best ways of subtyping and understanding the biology of autism so we can develop interventions that can help people with medical problems, such as sleep and GI problems, seizures, food allergies, and so on.

3. In 2007, Autism Speaks merged with Cure Autism Now. Does finding an autism cure continue to be one of your organizations primary objectives? Do you believe it is legitimately possible to "cure" autism, and if so, what exactly would such a cure entail? What characteristics would be removed from a cured individual and what characteristics would remain?

A: Our organization has four main objectives – to raise awareness of autism, fund research into the causes, better diagnosis and more effective treatments of autism, to advocate for families (for instance – insurance coverage for validated treatments) and to providing resources for families such as the transition toolkit for adolescents who are becoming adults, community grants to expand community services, create housing and much more, as well as information on where to get assistance around the country.

As our mission relates to “cure”, our goal is to reduce suffering associated with autism, in all its forms. Some would call that a cure. Others would call it remediation of disability. For others, it means acceptance and empowerment.

One of the things that is so challenging about autism is the fact that there’s so much variation in the way autism is expressed in people. Some individuals can have a productive and creative life, and they aren’t looking for a cure. They’re interested in being accepted and getting access to services to help them adapt to the world with their special skills. At the other end, there are individuals severely affected who have significant medical conditions, like GI distress and have never spoken. For those individuals, the prospect of a cure for autism is really important because to that person “cure” means being able to communicate and free of pain. That results in a lot of different perspectives of where our priorities should be.

4. A growing body of scientific research suggests that we are rapidly nearing the development of an amniocentesis test to detect autism, much like the procedure currently used to detect Down’s syndrome. Does funding provided by Autism Speaks in any way enable the development of such a test? If a prenatal test for autism was developed, does Autism Speaks believe that it should be made available to the public?

A: Autism Speaks is not funding any research to develop a prenatal test for autism. That is not our goal. The genetic research Autism Speaks has funded is aimed at finding biological causes, as described above.

5. It has been proposed that Autism, Asperger’s Disorder and Pervasive Developmental Disorder – Not Otherwise Specified, be replaced in the DSM-V by a general category referred to as Autism Spectrum Disorder. How might this be beneficial, and or detrimental, to the autistic community, their families, schools, the clinical practices attempting to improve their quality of life, etc…?

A: In February, 2010, Autism Speaks published a blog on this very topic at http://blog.autismspeaks.org/2010/02/10/...r-autism/. In that post, we acknowledged that the community would have a wide range of reactions depending on one’s perspective (a recurring theme in this interview!). We pointed out that scientifically, there is no strong scientific rationale for distinguishing among autism, Asperger syndrome, and PDD-NOS. We said at that time that the changes to the DSM, scientifically, make sense.

However we also acknowledged that people in the community living with autism may have a very different view of the change. In particular, “Many individuals personally identify with the diagnostic label they have been given and grown up with. They may participate in support or advocacy groups that identify with a specific label: for example “Aspies.” Thus, although the scientific and professional communities may institute a change in the diagnostic criteria, many may choose to use the original labels despite the changes in the DSM. And there is nothing wrong with this. In fact, there is precedent for this. For example, “sensory integration disorder” and “nonverbal learning disability” are examples of labels that have been used by the clinical community, but are not specifically part of the DSM.

One benefit of the change is that it may help increase access to services for those individuals with Asperger Syndrome and PDD-NOS who were previously denied access to autism-related services.”

Interestingly, the reaction to that blog and other articles was mixed, mirroring the very conflicts across our community.

6. Hans Asperger said, "It seems that for success in science and art, a dash of autism is essential." Does Autism Speaks believe that certain valuable human characteristics might be lost if autism was to be eradicated from the species?

A: Autism Speaks does not and never has sought to eradicate autism. We wish to celebrate the valuable human characteristics of autism, as you say, by helping each person with autism use those characteristics in the most successful and rewarding way possible. At the same time, we hope to eliminate the frequent co-occurring medical issues that negatively impact quality of life for many of those on the spectrum. We want compassion for those who need it and help for those who want it. For the individual who cannot communicate – we want to help them find a voice. For the individual who is self-injurious and cannot function, we want to ease that suffering with whatever treatments will help. For those who are self-advocates and just want to be accepted for who they are – we salute you and we would never try to change you. In fact, we desperately need your voice to help bring even more awareness, understanding and compassion to those who are not touched by autism.

7. How does Autism Speaks feel about speculation that certain important figures in human history, such as Einstein and Mozart, had High Functioning Autism, or Asperger Syndrome? Does Autism Speaks believe that individuals with HFA or AS have greater societal value than those with lower functioning forms of autism?

A: We believe that everyone with autism has special gifts – it’s up to families and the community to help them discover those qualities. We do not speculate on who may or may not have had Asperger Syndrome in history.

8. Would someone on the autism spectrum be capable of attaining a well-paid and influential position within Autism Speaks?

A: Absolutely. We post all open positions on multiple job sites and encourage anyone who meets the qualifications to apply. Autism Speaks does not discriminate in its hiring practices. People with autism are employed at Autism Speaks and are also appointed to several boards and committees, such as the Scientific Advisory Board and Treatment Advisory Board, both of which review and evaluate our research grant proposals. So people on the autism spectrum are shaping what we fund. We also have many family members at Autism Speaks, both as employees and board/committee members.

9. Many of Autism Speaks’ promotional strategies have been heavily criticized. Are there any specific marketing choices that Autism Speaks has come to regret? If so, what would Autism Speaks say to those who were offended by the way they have chosen to depict autism, and what corrective action is being taken?

A: We are a young organization and we learn as we grow. Without a doubt we have made mistakes – and to those we may have offended we are truly sorry. We never set out to offend. We are sincerely trying to help all those struggling with ASD. The autism spectrum is just that – a broad spectrum – and we respect that there are many different points of view. What touches someone can offend another. What we ask of this community is to also respect that others don’t think or feel the way they do – that doesn’t mean their opinions and thoughts are wrong. We all need to learn to be respectful and compassionate.

10. What primary goal does Autism Speaks wish to reach within the next decade?

A: Like we said earlier, our organization has four main objectives – to raise awareness of autism, fund research into the causes, better diagnosis and more effective treatments of autism, to advocate for families and provide resources for families and individuals. Our main goals moving forward are:
• Federal legislation to cover autism insurance – in the meantime we will continue going state-to-state.
• Reauthorization of the Combating Autism Act to provide critical government funds for research and services for autism.
• Discovering and developing more effective ways of detecting autism and providing effective interventions and supports for people on the spectrum throughout their lifespan.
• Increasing access to high-quality services and supports for people with ASD throughout the world.
• Creating a more compassionate world for all those with an autism spectrum disorder.



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08 Dec 2011, 3:58 pm

Before I speak my mind out on your rebuttals, TheSunAlsoRises, may I ask you a question: Are you by any chance associated with Autism Speaks?


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08 Dec 2011, 4:25 pm

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Okay so I was gonna post this at the Random Discussion forum or the Members Only Discussion forum but I decided to post this here, especially since this concerns a big organization like Autism Speaks.

Anyway, the title of this topic speaks for itself. While I'm almost 100% certain that we're all well-aware about Autism Speaks' past misdeeds, recent episodes of Wrong Planet owner Alex Plank's web series, Autism Talk TV, has started to give me the impression that Autism Speaks has changed for the better, especially since Autism Speaks sponsors Autism Talk TV. So my question to you guys are do you guys think that Autism Speaks can be trusted or do you guys believe they just posing as angels?

Oh and Alex Plank or whoever like Jack or Kirsten or John Scott Holman, if you're reading this, can you also let us know if Autism Speaks has really changed for the better or not? Thanks guys and, umm, girl.


I've made my position on this very clear in the past, and won't be arguing about it here anymore because I'm not going to risk another meltdown.

Short answer... Yes, they have changed for the better. Are there still improvements to be made? Absolutely. However, they will continue to do what gets the best response, so I think it is time we let them know that we appreciate the changes and encourage them to keep moving in a better direction

If we don't express appreciation for the positive changes they will keep doing things how they had been, which was working out pretty well for them. I'm supportive of progress, regardless of the past.

I am close enough with members of AutismnSeaks to know that these changes, while a bit slow in coming, are genuine.

I discussed this a bit when I was interviewed for Forbes magazine. The article will appear tomorrow.


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08 Dec 2011, 6:21 pm

Well they are certainly trying to change, but I'm not holding my breath;
1st they finally gotten listed at Charity Navigator, 3 out of 4 stars, program expenses have dropped, but that's not a big thing as most of the money is going for the unicorn hunt of finding a cure,
2nd they cut back the pay for their Chief Science Officer, Geri Dawson, from over $600K to $409,382 ,and President, Mark Roithmayr gets $333,398.
They have put a token or two spectrumite in board positions, funded somethings that are obviously reaching out to the community like Alex's Autism TV, but their fund raising message is still often insensitive if not outright demeaning to us. We're getting a Regional chapter of Autism Speaks here locally and an awareness meeting this Saturday, so we're getting carpet-bombed with radio ads and PSA's ; now I'm hearing this guy who's going to teach the community about autism saying about how much it's spreading on the radio! At least he's not saying we should be quarantine to protect the enties. Maybe I should go to the meeting and ask him if they finally cure autism, are they going to cure blacks of negroism next?


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08 Dec 2011, 8:46 pm

Although I don't fully support everything they do, they have demonstrated that they are, at least, willing to learn from other autistics. Like any organization that truly aims to help people, they are willing to admit they have made mistakes in their messages and mandate. That is a bold statement coming from an organization that I originally thought was purposely trying to ignore perspectives other than their own (biased) one.


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08 Dec 2011, 11:33 pm

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Before I speak my mind out on your rebuttals, TheSunAlsoRises, may I ask you a question: Are you by any chance associated with Autism Speaks?



theimperiousdork, I apologize for the delay in my response. Feel free to ask me any questions that you wish. Autism Speaks is a charity that i subscribe to on my Facebook page. I am not an official representative nor spokesman for this organization. I'm familiar with their history through internet searches and lurking on both, Aspie and NT forums. My opinions are my own.

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09 Dec 2011, 12:25 am

All we are saying is give peas a chance.



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10 Dec 2011, 1:01 am

I respect people's opinions on this matter. But let me be honest---I mainly ignore them, so I don't know if they are better or worse now. So I voted that I wasn't sure.


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