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hardyboyz1999
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| Autism should be an excuse unless it causes someone to commit an act of violence or stealing. I have Aspergers and I would not want someone to physically attack me or steal something from me. I was told that I can be arrested for harassment if I ask people personal questions or favors, but these people I ask act like they're cool with it. If someone asked me something I don't like, I would be direct and tell them "I would not be comfortable with that," but I would not call the police, unless they kept asking me. As the WWE wrestler Triple H said just before the Survivor Series in November 2000 "you are all fools, you are all living a lie," and "Even now, you think you know the truth, the truth is you still don't know," I would say the same thing about the neurotypical crowd. I know the truth (even if the neurotypical crowd doesn't) and the truth will set me free. Yet I still have to obey their stupid rules. |
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edgewaters
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| hardyboyz1999 wrote: | | Autism should be an excuse unless it causes someone to commit an act of violence or stealing. |
No. You've got to live up to the capabilities that you DO have, and try to develop them, just like anybody.
It's like any disability. Losing your legs isn't an excuse for not trying your best. It means your capabilities will be less and people should be understanding of that, but you shouldn't be treated any different otherwise. |
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scubasteve
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:02 am Post subject: |
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| I don't think a student should ever be punished for an incident in which they truly could not control their behavior. However, I believe everyone must take responsibility for their behavior and work to improve their self-control. If they are not willing to make the effort to do so, and these incidents continue, at some point they will have to be disciplined for it. |
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Sweetleaf
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 12:29 am Post subject: |
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Well first off we'd have to define bad behavior, and then I'd say only if this bad behavior is intentional and not a result of misunderstanding a situation due to the AS for instance.
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sMeow
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 5:48 am Post subject: |
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Saying Aspergers is not an excuse at all is pretty stupid (there are social problems because of that, so let's be logical :>), as saying Aspergers excuse everything is stupid.
Like everything. You won't ask someone with motor disabilities to run or whatever, it doesn't mean he can't do anythinh, same thing here for Aspergers, except the fact most people doesn't understand when an Aspergers say something which upset them, it's not what he wanted to do and he won't understand why what e said upset the other, for example.
So yes, there are social disabilities, so there are an excuse when the Aspergers doesn't understand. The real question is ; does the kid know it's bad ?
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Sweetleaf
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:11 am Post subject: |
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| edgewaters wrote: | | hardyboyz1999 wrote: | | Autism should be an excuse unless it causes someone to commit an act of violence or stealing. |
No. You've got to live up to the capabilities that you DO have, and try to develop them, just like anybody.
It's like any disability. Losing your legs isn't an excuse for not trying your best. It means your capabilities will be less and people should be understanding of that, but you shouldn't be treated any different otherwise. |
However it might be an excuse for not trying their best to walk. Hence if someones disability prevents them from a certain thing, they probably would be better off not pushing themself too hard to accomplish it as that only leads to more pain and frustration.
Its not an excuse to not try your best at what you can do, though I can understand when people are faced with difficulties like that they might be frusterated and depressed about it and have a hard time 'trying their best' 24/7 I feel like others should try and understand it is possible to get to overwhelmed and feel like giving up and all. I just don't see it as something to look down on someone for.
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