ruveyn
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| Kraichgauer wrote: | | ruveyn wrote: | | androbot2084 wrote: | | America was founded on communism. |
No it was not. Nothing even close. Private Property was one of the main factors in American society. In fact a man could not vote unless he had a certain amount of property.
I do not know where you get some of your mis-information.
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Hadn't the Puritans who arrived at Plymouth Rock set up a communistic society for a year or two after landing?
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You are talking about the Virginia Colony. The on that perished.
The Puritans shared a lot but their religion wasn't modeled after the Agape or Communism.
And their share policy was temporary at most.
By the time the colonies became independent private property was the main principle. that was 150 years after Plymouth Rock. No pinko stinko commie nonsense.
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Kraichgauer
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| ruveyn wrote: | | Kraichgauer wrote: | | ruveyn wrote: | | androbot2084 wrote: | | America was founded on communism. |
No it was not. Nothing even close. Private Property was one of the main factors in American society. In fact a man could not vote unless he had a certain amount of property.
I do not know where you get some of your mis-information.
ruveyn |
Hadn't the Puritans who arrived at Plymouth Rock set up a communistic society for a year or two after landing?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
You are talking about the Virginia Colony. The on that perished.
The Puritans shared a lot but their religion wasn't modeled after the Agape or Communism.
And their share policy was temporary at most.
By the time the colonies became independent private property was the main principle. that was 150 years after Plymouth Rock. No pinko stinko commie nonsense.
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It was the Roanoke colony that died out. And I've never heard anything about them practicing communism.
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androbot2084
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| Heaven is also a communist society. |
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munch15a
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thee disciples lived in a commune this is not communist for a start according to Marxism religion is the opiet of the people he Christianity also states that we will never have a utopian society on earth where as Marxism and for that matter most of the worst dictatorships of the last 200 years promise utopia.
any system that promises you utopia is is a failed political system unless they promise it to you in the after life then its called a religion |
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ruveyn
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It was the Roanoke colony that died out. And I've never heard anything about them practicing communism.
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In any case after the first few years passed and the community survived, private property once more prevailed. Communism is the perfect system for an overcrowded life boat following a shipwreck. It is the last system once the people in the boat reach dry land or are rescued.
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androbot2084
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| Why do I need to buy a lawnmower when I can borrow my neighbors lawnmower? |
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ruveyn
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What if no one will lend you a lawnmower? Suppose they want to charge rent for you to use the lawnmower. Then what?
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androbot2084
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| Buying is cheaper than renting. Besides if someone lends me their lawnmower I put good synthetic oil in it and return it with a full tank of fuel. |
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Jeffrey228
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| Burnbridge wrote: | Hmmm...didn't like moneylenders. Didn't like religious patriarchs. Handed out free food. Healed people and didn't ask for payment. Didn't like the Roman government. Lived in a communal house with 12 other dudes. Didn't charge money for his performances. Worked a low class proletarian craft job as a carpenter. Sounds pretty communist so far, especially the communal living and meals bit.
I know a bunch Christian communists. They rule. |
That is what Conservitive andTea Party Republicans are, to tell you the truth, they hate Freedom of Culture and Freedom of Religion. |
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| Jeffrey228 wrote: | | Burnbridge wrote: | Hmmm...didn't like moneylenders. Didn't like religious patriarchs. Handed out free food. Healed people and didn't ask for payment. Didn't like the Roman government. Lived in a communal house with 12 other dudes. Didn't charge money for his performances. Worked a low class proletarian craft job as a carpenter. Sounds pretty communist so far, especially the communal living and meals bit.
I know a bunch Christian communists. They rule. |
That is what Conservitive andTea Party Republicans are, to tell you the truth, they hate Freedom of Culture and Freedom of Religion. |
More and more, they're revealing themselves to be just that.
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ruveyn
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More and more, they're revealing themselves to be just that.
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First of all there is no "freedom of culture". This phrase has no legal meaning whatsoever. Second, the Tea Party folks have not proposed repealing or modifying the First Amendment. The Government is not in the business of establishing a religion or preventing the free exercise thereof (within limits of course -- sacrificing a virgin to insure good crops is illegal in all 50 states).
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androbot2084
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| Jesus was the ultimate Robin Hood. |
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ruveyn
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Which rich guys did he steal from?
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Kraichgauer
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| ruveyn wrote: | | Kraichgauer wrote: |
More and more, they're revealing themselves to be just that.
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First of all there is no "freedom of culture". This phrase has no legal meaning whatsoever. Second, the Tea Party folks have not proposed repealing or modifying the First Amendment. The Government is not in the business of establishing a religion or preventing the free exercise thereof (within limits of course -- sacrificing a virgin to insure good crops is illegal in all 50 states).
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It may not have any legal meaning, but there are plenty of Americans who don't fit in with the Republican/tea party notion of living in rural or small town "utopia," with the accompanying "morals," and "values." Those who don't are viewed with disdain, and are what Sarah Palin doesn't consider to be "Pro-American" parts of the country.
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| The bandit Jesus told the rich that they would go to hell if they did not help the poor. |
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