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Emiliania
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Age: 23
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Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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YES! Firearms have become a bit of a special interest of mine. My boyfriend and I have Possession and Acquisition Licenses (the license you need to buy or own a gun in Canada) and we love to go shooting. I like it because it is relaxing and is a fun skill to gain and master. Particularly I have been shooting at distances up to 300 meters, but I would like to expand that to 1000 meters and beyond (however it is difficult to do that without the right (expensive) technology and a long enough range). I would also like to try clay pigeon shooting to work on accuracy with moving targets. I'm also working on improving my handgun shooting, which I find harder than shooting with a rifle.
I will stop talking about my special interest now. Guns must be stored and handled safely and in accordance with the law, and you must have the clarity of mind to remove them from your home if you are in a bad place mentally, so to speak (i.e. depressed, experiencing extreme stress, etc.). If you can do that, it doesn't matter whether you're NT or have AS/ASD. Guns are ridiculous fun  . |
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Apple_in_my_Eye
I don't remember
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Age: 44
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Location: in my brain
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| Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| My dad taught me how to shoot when I was young. He learned in the military and was very strict about safety. I found that that (the safety part) was one of the few areas of life where black-and-white thinking and absolute adherence to rules was a good thing (and admired by the old timers at the range). |
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perpetualconfusion
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Age: 43
Posts: 111
Location: My own little world
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@ Emiliania, I congratulate you on not only being a shooting enthusiast; but actively shooting in Canada. I know regulations there are stringent. enjoy your hobby! 
@Apple_in_my_Eye, my own upbringing was similar to yours with a dad in the military and strict instruction in handling firearms. It's a great skill and requires a lot of focus  I think it works out well for most of us .
Good times for those that shoot. I sure enjoy it as well  .
I also support those of you who feel you should not have firearms.
It's not for everyone, but it is a 2nd amendment right here in the USA . |
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kx250rider
Educated Musclehead
Joined: May 16, 2010
Posts: 1953
Location: Dallas, TX and Ventura County, CA
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| leviathans wrote: | | I'm a Canadian and like most Canadians I disapprove easy accessibility to guns and I don't understand why America is so obsessed with firearms. |
We're obsessed with personal rights, and personal responsibility, and we dislike government interference in our lives and livelihoods. I don't know if we're any more or less obsessed with firearms than we are of any other hobby item or collectible. The great thing about the USA attitude on these things is; we support the right NOT to have guns, just as strongly as we support the right TO have them. It's the rights themselves that we're so obsessed with.
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redrobin62
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Joined: Apr 03, 2012
Age: 50
Posts: 3831
Location: Seattle, WA
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:36 am Post subject: |
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| With my history of depression, my firearm would be used only once. |
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Rascal77s
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 2:21 am Post subject: |
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| 1000Knives wrote: | | I'd say like 90% of the people on gun forums are Aspies, so yeah, probably. |
LMAO I think you're right  |
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Max000
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Joined: Apr 07, 2012
Age: 52
Posts: 272
Location: My world
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 3:27 am Post subject: |
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| NorthPark wrote: | | Dox47 wrote: | Lucky me, living in WA state with it's surprisingly liberal gun laws, and now I can even use my silencers.
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I don't get why CA (or KAlifornia in gun forums) is so gun unfriendly. |
Because the rate of gun related deaths in CA is considerably lower then in most of the redneck (pro gun) states. Especially considering the size of the state. That makes most Californians feel safer, and we would like to keep it that way.
For some strange reason pro-gun people, seem to only feel safe when people are getting shot and killed around them.
Firearms Death Rate per 100,000 (most recent) by state
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Dillogic
you know how it goes
Joined: Nov 25, 2011
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 4:09 am Post subject: |
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One must look at the overall murder rate rather than the weapon used (logically).
Doesn't matter if you're perforated by high velocity heavy metals, vaporized by an alien blaster or hit over the head with a club. Dead is dead. |
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enrico_dandolo
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Joined: Nov 21, 2011
Posts: 866
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I would not own a firearm. I see no purpose to it, and they are costly. Or maybe an old matchlock musket, but that would not be for any practical purpose.
However, I don't think people with ASD should be kept away from guns. |
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fragileclover
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Joined: May 22, 2009
Posts: 496
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:34 am Post subject: |
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I answered no, that I would not personally own a firearm.
I'm terribly afraid of guns. Even if one was locked in a cabinet with the safety on, I would constantly worry about someone getting their hands on it, or irrationally, the gun just going off by itself. I was in a room ONE time with someone who owned a handgun, and it was enough for me. I had a panic attack.
Also, I don't think I'd be able to handle the sound or kickback. That alone would make me afraid to pull the trigger.
In terms of protection, I think I'd have a better shot with a big ole' baseball bat. As hunting goes, I would NEVER. If you want to kill your own food, why not do it with weapons fashioned by your own hands? Not that I'd personally support that either, but it would be far less disgusting than the act of hunting is currently, and I'd at least have slightly more respect for the people who do it. Better yet, if we humans are supposed to eat meat, why don't you go catch and kill that deer with your bare hands?
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Tixylix
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Joined: Apr 30, 2012
Posts: 19
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| Radiofixr wrote: | | according to Homer Simpson if we didn't have guns to protect ourselves the King of England could just walk into your house anytime and start pushing you around-Homer is a wise man. |
England doesn't currently have a king, we have a queen and she's 86 and doesn't really do much except go on telly for 10 minutes at Christmas and wave at people occasionally. Bill Bailey said their corgis are trained to attack the poor but then you'd have to get them through US customs so you'd have at least 6 months to prepare.
Having a gun in the UK is significantly less common and I understand it's a bit more difficult than getting one in the US. I wouldn't have one however easy it was because it's far more likely to kill someone in your family than an intruder. I live in an area where someone left a car on our street with the windows rolled down and the door unlocked and in the morning it was still there and not on fire - I don't think I need to worry too much about self-defence. |
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Rascal77s
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Tixylix wrote: | | I wouldn't have one however easy it was because it's far more likely to kill someone in your family than an intruder. |
This is absolutely false. Large scale studies have been done on this. You've been duped by misleading statistics Tixy. Gun ban groups include suicides to make the claim in the quote above. But anyone who is determined to commit suicide will still do it in the absence of a gun. The suicide rate in Europe is higher than in the US yet there is strict gun control in many European countries. We could say that in Europe ropes, sleeping pills, razor blades, knives, carbon monoxide, etc are more likely to kill someone in your family than an intruder. You might consider getting rid of your kitchen knives, prescription pills, and car because they are far more likely to kill someone in your home than a gun. |
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Weiss_Yohji
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Joined: Apr 26, 2010
Age: 26
Posts: 221
Location: Delaware
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| Ambivalence wrote: | | Woodpecker wrote: | | I think that a AR-15 is a bit over the top for hunting, |
Perfect for fighting off the Redcoats / Commies / Gummint (delete as applicable) though! |
The Second Amendment exists for just that reason: To protect ourselves from our own government should they step on freedom.
I've handled guns before. I've fired live ammo at old Coke bottles filled with water. Not once have I ever had to turn a gun on another human being. Why? Because I was taught gun safety at a young age. My dad was once in Delaware's police academy, and his dad before him was in the Marines during WW2 (He saw no combat). They both owned guns and knew how to use them properly, as do I. To ban guns because someone just might shoot someone else is as retarded as banning cars because someone might drive drunk. What's next? Banning ropes? Razors? Knives? Legs? Fists? Chairs? Lamps? Piano wires? Bows? Pens? |
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Dillogic
you know how it goes
Joined: Nov 25, 2011
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An AR-15 [in .223] is really only a small game rifle, just FYI and all (unless you use specially tailored medium game projectiles, but even then it's still on the light side). 5.56x45mm/.223 is really a low powered round.
Not overkill at all. Probably a very good firearm to use if you have an infestation of bunnies or whatnot in the large paddocks, as you have a flat shooting (.223), low recoiling (.223), reasonably cheap ammo (.223), high capacity (pick off a lot before they go down in their holes), and accurate firearm.
You can do the same thing in a bolt gun in .223, of course. |
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perpetualconfusion
Raven
Joined: Dec 26, 2011
Age: 43
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Location: My own little world
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Weiss_Yohji wrote: | | Ambivalence wrote: | | Woodpecker wrote: | | I think that a AR-15 is a bit over the top for hunting, |
Perfect for fighting off the Redcoats / Commies / Gummint (delete as applicable) though! |
The Second Amendment exists for just that reason: To protect ourselves from our own government should they step on freedom.
I've handled guns before. I've fired live ammo at old Coke bottles filled with water. Not once have I ever had to turn a gun on another human being. Why? Because I was taught gun safety at a young age. My dad was once in Delaware's police academy, and his dad before him was in the Marines during WW2 (He saw no combat). They both owned guns and knew how to use them properly, as do I. To ban guns because someone just might shoot someone else is as retarded as banning cars because someone might drive drunk. What's next? Banning ropes? Razors? Knives? Legs? Fists? Chairs? Lamps? Piano wires? Bows? Pens? |
^^^ This ! Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.
To be back to the point; AS/ASD should have an advantage as gun owners, as we are more likely to learn all the finer points about them, especially safety. Care and maintenance as well
The most important thing about firearms is to be truly informed about all aspects involving them and how that fits with you as an individual . It's a personal choice,after all.
If you are not comfortable around them, then it is your choice not to own them. If you do choose to do so, remember these rules when handling a firearm:
(from Col. Jeff Cooper's book)
RULE I: All Guns Are ALWAYS LOADED.
RULE II: NEVER Let the muzzle cover ANYTHING you are not willing to DESTROY.
RULE III: KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER until your sights are on the target.
RULE IV: Be sure of your target and what's beyond it.
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