Does anyone else agree with feminism?

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I agree Puddingmouse what feminist do you admire the most I like the works of Angela Davis.

I asked if there are any questions. If there aren't, my personal life can be dropped as a subject of discussion.

Are you aware that some women submit to horrible physical treatment involving tons and tons of needless pain, causing bleeding, crying, uncontrollable drooling, all without religion whatsoever?

It's called BDSM. I doubt you'd judge those people as harshly as us evil Christians, who evilly follow the New Testament. Some women like to submit, and my wife is not very far on that scale considering what's out there for what both parties consider not religion, but pure godless fun.

Hint there is a white box with "Google Custom Search" on the top of the page. I wouldn't lie about such things, as they could easily be proven to be lies. If I was that bad of a liar I'd be you.



It kind of seems like every feminist in here have their own definition. Valentine alone has used about 3 or 4 definitions right now.

It kind of is the equivalent to a white supremacist group, "It's cool to be a man as long as you agree with feminism" as Valentine's position is when you summarize it, as she did in fact call every man who is not in favor of feminism a de
facto misogynist.



I would, but "continence" pants isn't so much what you mean, since the definition is:

1. self-restraint or abstinence, especially in regard to sexual activity; temperance; moderation.
2. Physiology . the ability to voluntarily control urinary and fecal discharge.

I assume you mean "incontinence" the prefix "in" used to signify a lack of continence which is the ability to hold in fecal matter and urin. In the case of the first definition. Then again, it's only about the 800th time your side in this discussion show a staggering incompetence when it comes to the definitions of words.



I linked the bloody image in the post you quoted. I hardly see arguing against feminism as insulting 50% of the human race, unless all women are feminists with the exact same view on the ideology and the method for executing that ideology.

Furthermore, Valentine repeatedly called every man who disagrees with her version of feminism a de facto sexist. I opened up on you because you appeared to be deserving of a patented TM lashing. I grew up being bullied, I have no problem taking on such domination tactics as used in this thread, I have my whole life.

I'd say you were generalizing if you say that all women by definition are feminists, seems strangely like you're seeing them all as one. Not all women are feminists and not all feminists are women. How about seeing women as individuals, seems very mean to view them all as one, kind of like you're robbing them off their individuality and that's just sexist tbh.

CLICK THIS LINK ---> http://i44.tinypic.com/2d1tuf4.jpg <--- CLICK THIS LINK

It is hard to argue against something that you cannot read. I don't not need glasses and if I click the zoom button I still have to squent to read it. I can't make sense of the graphs either because of that.

Iexplore and Firefox : CTRL + to zoom.

Horray! lets make the words fuzzy. I already tried that earlier. I mean I could read it, but it would take forever compared to how long I normally can and hurt my eyes/headache.

There aren't any feminist writers I admire, really. I take ideas from all kinds of writers. First, Second and Third Wave. From Mary Wollstonecraft to Naomi Wolf. I mostly identify with second-wave feminsim, although I disagree with a lot of what Dworkin, McKinnon, et al. It's just that the framwork of rad fem makes sense to me.

Gloria Steinem is cool though, apart from her transphobia. That's the main problem I have with her generation of feminists, though I do think the third-wave has also lost its way. That's why I take the best of both generations.

I am a christian as in I follow what Jesus taught and preached he never said anything about how a man was to treat his wife Paul did not Jesus.

I am a devot Methodist we do not agree with a lot of things Paul said.

And I know all to well what BDSM I have been the bottom while the girl I dated at the time was the top.

Also pleas try to say something about feminism for once instead of your love life and religious beliefs it would be best if you started a thread about them.

I suspect he's more than aware, he just doesn't see the relevance.

Plus, he's a Christian, as well. Stop looking for anti-Christian persecution where there isn't any.

Sorry for speaking for you here, Joker.

A woman's comprehensive way of thinking makes up for the poorer specialized qualifications.

I like third way ideas too Gloria Steinim is very cool indeed though I don't like her views transgender people cause I am one.

It's quite all right I do not mine at all

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolee_Schneemann

Louise Augusta, Queen of Prussia

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So I'm a liar now? Fantastic. I guess you are now degenerating to the "I know you are, but what am I?" level of discourse? I actually took the time to search through His_Divine_Prince's posts, looking through this entire thread seemed to be a huge waste of time; and I did not find any replies from me to him? Are you sure you are not mixing me up with someone else, or with another thread? Also keep in mind a lot of pages were removed...



I think it is sad that you consider them equivalent. It is really unfair to millions of women



I'm sure you're feeling real proud right now!! ! Your expertise on incontinence is appreciated, though expected. I'm not particularly interested in engaging in such a trite word debate as the one you decided to open. When I chose that word it was because it is a broad descriptor



No, arguing against feminism is not insulting all women. Insulting women through insinuation of inferiority and religious dogma is. Furthermore I do not consider what you have written to be particularly offensive...



I'm sure she has seen this post so I will wait for her to validate or invalidate that claim, this thread is too long for me to want to search through



"I grew up being bullied, so now I became one" basically? Your lashing is pathetic anyways, next time bring something better than a wet, limp f*cking noodle. I was bullied too. I learned to defend myself and they left me alone.



I do not see them as that way at all? Have I not mentioned "radical feminists" within this thread? Citing a personal example I know from my own life? (Actually it may be from other related threads but I would be happy to repeat for you)



I cannot read a lot of what that says (sorry, I have poor eyesight...) but things that catch my eye are:

Women often cite men's ability to commit. Yet 75% of divorces are initiated by women
Commitment does not just mean having a wedding ring and living together. If the man is not emotionally and physically committed to the relationship but is quite comfortable where he is, of course he is not going to initiate a divorce!

Women have unrealistic expectations of men's appearance
And men do not? I won't pretend to speak for the entirety of any group, but I think that is a pretty normal human thing. The data is also gathered from OkCupid... did they expect anything else?

I also have no way to validate any of this "scholarly data" which appears to be little more than a jpg on somebody's tinypic account

I do not actually dislike you, TM, at all, so maybe we can stop with the back and forth.

Seriously. I was in a good mood yesterday, but not today.

Hell No.

I am not going to take your Gish Gallop seriously. I am going to mock you for attempting to pull one. Because once a side is using creationist- inspired rhetoric it must definitely have already lost the argument.

You can put 1000 bullshitty arguments together in the same pile but they would still be bullshitty arguments. If you want to, you can try issuing a single one of them at once and see it get horribly defused to death. If you are too much of a coward and prefer to use the Gish Gallop ad nauseum I'd like to exploit my right not to take you seriously.