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| TheDarkMage wrote: | i am 100% for equal rights WITH EXCEPTIONS. by exceptions
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Exceptions imply not 100%
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i mean little things like you shouldnt have a male bathroom attendant in a womens bathroom or vice versa.
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What about janitors?
Do you really think feminists want to send women to your bathroom?
I would comment the rest of the things you said, but I didn't read them and don't plan to.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:12 am Post subject: |
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| TheDarkMage wrote: | yep thats another one.
"if you argue back they will accuse you of using aggression or intimidation in the hope of making other women gang up on you" |
You know what else causes that reaction? Being profoundly wrong, and self-righteous about it. |
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TheDarkMage
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| TheDarkMage wrote: | i havent read the thread as it is far too long.
if nobody has posted this yet then here it is:
http://www.angryharry.com
read it and wake up to feminism |
Dark Mage,
how do you feel about women in general?
Do you not view your wife/partner as equal to yourself?
Feminism just means wanting women to have equal rights, I dont see what so disagreeable about that. Its not the same as misandrist.
People could make the same confusion with people who wanted equal rights for all races and confuse them with race supremacists, they are not the same at all. |
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TheDarkMage
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| The-Raven wrote: | | TheDarkMage wrote: | i havent read the thread as it is far too long.
if nobody has posted this yet then here it is:
http://www.angryharry.com
read it and wake up to feminism |
Dark Mage,
how do you feel about women in general?
Do you not view your wife/partner as equal to yourself?
Feminism just means wanting women to have equal rights, I dont see what so disagreeable about that. Its not the same as misandrist.
People could make the same confusion with people who wanted equal rights for all races and confuse them with race supremacists, they are not the same at all. |
like i said before, i believe everyone should have equal rights. me an my partner have our own roles. she does the things that she is better at such as cleaning ( i also do the cleaning but not as good as her), washing etc. i take care of all the finances, DIY, and generally traditional male things. I still do the hoovering, wahing up, bringing washing in from the line etc. it just HAPPENS that this is how it has worked out.
im a father and probably do 60% of the parenting. I educate and morally teach my daughter what she needs to learn.
women SHOULD have equal rights.
However, in britain things have defintely gone wrong. instead of women becoming equal, men are being abused at every opportunity. adverts on TV always show the clever woman and the idiot male. Women can have "women only" things but for men this is no longer allowed. Fathers can not see their kids because the law is ALWAYS in favour of women. men ARE demonised at every opportunity.
MOST of the time, women here have the attitude that they only want equal rights when it suits them. this really irritates me. they want equal rights but at the same time they EXPECT men to pay for everything, they expect men to still do all the men things AND the women things.
again, just to make sure that everyone has heard - I am all for equal rights.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 6:59 am Post subject: |
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| TheDarkMage wrote: | | The-Raven wrote: | | TheDarkMage wrote: | i havent read the thread as it is far too long.
if nobody has posted this yet then here it is:
http://www.angryharry.com
read it and wake up to feminism |
Dark Mage,
how do you feel about women in general?
Do you not view your wife/partner as equal to yourself?
Feminism just means wanting women to have equal rights, I dont see what so disagreeable about that. Its not the same as misandrist.
People could make the same confusion with people who wanted equal rights for all races and confuse them with race supremacists, they are not the same at all. |
like i said before, i believe everyone should have equal rights. me an my partner have our own roles. she does the things that she is better at such as cleaning ( i also do the cleaning but not as good as her), washing etc. i take care of all the finances, DIY, and generally traditional male things. I still do the hoovering, wahing up, bringing washing in from the line etc. it just HAPPENS that this is how it has worked out.
im a father and probably do 60% of the parenting. I educate and morally teach my daughter what she needs to learn.
women SHOULD have equal rights.
However, in britain things have defintely gone wrong. instead of women becoming equal, men are being abused at every opportunity. adverts on TV always show the clever woman and the idiot male. Women can have "women only" things but for men this is no longer allowed. Fathers can not see their kids because the law is ALWAYS in favour of women. men ARE demonised at every opportunity.
MOST of the time, women here have the attitude that they only want equal rights when it suits them. this really irritates me. they want equal rights but at the same time they EXPECT men to pay for everything, they expect men to still do all the men things AND the women things.
again, just to make sure that everyone has heard - I am all for equal rights. |
Ah so your not really against feminism , you are just also in favour of mens rights too.
You should read Stephen Bidulphs (author of raising boys and secrets of happy children) book 'Manhood' its very good talking about mens lives and rights.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Manhood-Steve-Biddulph/dp/0091894816 |
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TheDarkMage
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| The-Raven wrote: |
Ah so your not really against feminism , you are just also in favour of mens rights too.
You should read Stephen Bidulphs (author of raising boys and secrets of happy children) book 'Manhood' its very good talking about mens lives and rights.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Manhood-Steve-Biddulph/dp/0091894816 |
i am against feminists such as the vile germaine greer or any other hardcore feminist idiot.
equality all the way.
thanks for the link - and a sensible reply.
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Right.
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| AspieRogue wrote: | | That righteous victim mentality seems to be prevalent only among certain factions of feminism which are now in the minority. |
I'm a radical feminist but I don't feel like a victim at all.
Plus, like it or not, some people are 'victims' of patriarchy: trafficked sex slaves, girls who get honour killed, gay men who get beaten up, men who get injured in wars. I don't like 'victim' mentality so much as survivor mentality, though.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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La la la la la la la la la not listening.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:06 am Post subject: |
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The term "feminist" tends to be used in a negative context when women aren't acting like doormats
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