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27 Sep 2012, 12:19 am

Mitt Romney's vicious, domineering behaviours & "youthful pranks". Really, a jerkass rich kid.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/c ... bully.html


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27 Sep 2012, 6:40 pm

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^^^

well it's nice to know we can all be millionaires if we put our minds to it even the arse people . :)


Putting one's mind to it is necessary but not sufficient. One must also have some essential talents among which are the ability to focus ones efforts and identify problems accurately. Also having a bit of luck doesn't hurt one bit.

Most people do not have the focus and drive to be successful business persons which is why most people end up working for others.

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Being a successful business person usually means managing people. When the business grows to the size where you can become a rich CEO, you end up being a figurehead and delegating a lot of day-to-day details to middle-managers who may do stupid things or have their own wrong-headed agenda. You stop having direct control of the creation of your product. Instead your job becomes to control people who create things for you. What kind of aspie in their right mind would want to become a millionaire CEO? More likely the aspie invents something and then the better schmoozer/wheeler-dealer with less concern for ethics and modesty has to take over and gets most of the credit and financial reward. I'm not completely demonizing all large business owners, but anyone with a clue knows that "nice people" who do everything by the books and don't try to push any legal or ethical boundaries don't usually make it to the very top. I'm not saying it's easy either. It's just that most of the time it's a bit more than just "hard work and diligence". A lot of it is social skills, having balls, and even being a jerk and stepping on others every once in a while. I mean, sure Bill Gates gives quite a bit to charity and may be a basically decent person but he was also directly behind all kinds of nasty anti-competitive crap Microsoft was pulling from the very beginning.



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27 Sep 2012, 7:00 pm

^^^

That's a fair point it would be interesting to know how much of these @ practices are directly the doing of Billy Boy, I suspect he invents and gets the other people to TKB (take care of business).

I have similar views of Warren Buffet the problem I have with Hamburger and coke man he seems a little to squeaky clean for my liking , still it's nice his giving away his fortune I didn't believe he would do it when he said he was going to give it all away in latter in life, its nice to be pleasantly surprised from time to time.


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27 Sep 2012, 11:14 pm

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I am vaguely following American politics, and it seems very plausible to me that Republican candidate Mitt Romney has some kind of high-functioning autism.


God forbid.


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28 Sep 2012, 3:44 am

Romney is just rich and out of touch. It can happen to a lot of those born in poor circumstances - see any number of musicians or actors who become pricks once the money starts rolling in - and as I understand it, Romney was certainly not born in poor circumstances. What's more, in a lot of situations, any idiosyncracies are glossed over because you're wealthy. It's not likely a rich man will be told 'hey, that was a jerky thing to do'.



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28 Sep 2012, 6:09 am

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He's talking about cars because car manufacturing is (or used to be) important in Michigan, where he is campaigning.


Yes, he is trying to pander. But any normal person would say something different. Remember, he has had time to prepare this speech.

When he talks about his ability to recognise a car from a certain part, he is really talking about an ability or hobby that he used to have. It's strange, obscure, and something that he is proud of. He even makes the point that he isn't so good at doing it with Japanese cars. At this point, he is way beyond pandering. He is telling a true story about his life that people cannot relate to. How many people make a habit of guessing cars from car parts?


I considered myself a misfit because I was a rare adolescent male who was NOT obsessed with cars. So these car things screams 'normal' to me. Though a friend in my adolesence who was my opposite, and who could spot a 68 impala in a movie was probably adhd-but I digress. And that thing about japanese cars is a deliberate clever pitch to american auto workers who fear foriegn competion-a clever code planted for part of his audience- nothing to do with guiless enthusiasm for a hobby! That remark was actually very clever and very deliberate pandering!



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30 Sep 2012, 4:03 pm

absolutelt not, the guy does notplay by the rules and has all the characteristics of a straight up nt (nut) NT



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30 Sep 2012, 4:40 pm

Well, I googled this so it was on my mind as well. The guy just seems a little odd and uncharismatic to be running for the presidency. I have to echo what others have said here, I'm not sure why Romney is so odd, but I think it has to do with the fact that this guy comes from the world of super-rich people and is used to conversing with them and their ilk. So when he talks he seems very stiff and awkward. Also, he probably does not have a history of being disagreed with. His stature, wealth, and intelligence has probably gifted him with certain psychological advantages that have meant that people don't challenge him very often, and when he is challenged he becomes uncomfortable. I've seen the guy on 60 minutes with his family and there he seems like a normal, nice guy. It's just when he gets behind the camera and starts "campaigning" he fails miserably. If he had more charisma he would probably be better off than he is now.



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30 Sep 2012, 7:24 pm

Mitt Romney suffers from dumb-schmuck disease.

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30 Sep 2012, 9:48 pm

Unfortunately though, the majority of American voters are pretty dumb and vote for the most likable candidate, and not the one who's qualified for the Job. They re-elected Bush in '04 and the idiots in the Democratic Party chose Obama and not Billary as the nominee.



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02 Oct 2012, 7:43 pm

i was listening to a lovely story on the npr about psychopathy or sociopathy and it seems like mitt is one of those. i say the story was lovely because we often think of sociopaths killing people and whatnot, but there are folks who use their sociopathy for good instead of evil. not saying which one mitt is...



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02 Oct 2012, 8:03 pm

muff wrote:
i was listening to a lovely story on the npr about psychopathy or sociopathy and it seems like mitt is one of those. i say the story was lovely because we often think of sociopaths killing people and whatnot, but there are folks who use their sociopathy for good instead of evil. not saying which one mitt is...


How are they using it for 'good'? Per definition, doesn't a sociopath not care about the moral impact, the good or evil, of their choices and actions towards others?



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02 Oct 2012, 8:44 pm

Mitt Romney is not an Aspie. He is a Gentile. He has a goyische kopf.

He thinks like a Gentile and he acts like a Gentile. He also probably has not had an original thought in the last 40 years.

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02 Oct 2012, 9:15 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Mitt Romney is not an Aspie. He is a Gentile.

What are you implying?


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02 Oct 2012, 9:33 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Mitt Romney is not an Aspie. He is a Gentile.

What are you implying?


He's not an intellectual.



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05 Oct 2012, 12:28 am

Mitt Romney would be an aspie if it would get him elected. But because aspies are such a small portion of the electorate it not possible for him to convert.

He reminds me of this guy Peter Popoff, Romney has not found a way to be as overt as Popoff.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7BQKu0YP8Y[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ST5EbPd3qc[/youtube]
Popoff hooks the desperate, dazed and greedy, he tells them exactly what they want to hear.

100%, Romney is no aspie.