Joined: Feb 21, 2012 Posts: 418 Location: united kingdom
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:19 pm Post subject:
first of all this is my stance on MC.
the country's primary culture should always take precedence over any other - the british culture in our case. (obviously not possible in some countries)
other cultures should have a presence in places - chinatown for example.
other cultures shouls never take over from the primary culture.
britain has a LONG history. britain has a specific culture.
MC was an experiment forced upon the people of britain by the last government. they allowed (and still do) uncontrolled immigration which has all but destroyed the country. yet we are not allowed to say this as we will be prosecuted under some idiot nazi style law.
people in britain never had a say. people in britain did not want mass immigration. the immigrants who have come here, especially muslims, have no respect for our culture. they expect to bring their own laws and try to enforce them upon us through the back door. _________________
I think the OP assumes that the western countries of the new world are the same as Europe, Britain, and Scandinavia. America has a history of different ethnicities who have (over time) learned to get along. This is not the case across the Atlantic. Throwing away thousands of years of civilization will result in replacement, most likely by the patronizing imperialist ideology of islam (and I suspect this degradation and incursion of our nations is what the EU strives for).
Joined: Feb 21, 2012 Posts: 418 Location: united kingdom
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:47 pm Post subject:
petitesouris wrote:
I think the OP assumes that the western countries of the new world are the same as Europe, Britain, and Scandinavia. America has a history of different ethnicities who have (over time) learned to get along. This is not the case across the Atlantic. Throwing away thousands of years of civilization will result in replacement, most likely by the patronizing imperialist ideology of islam (and I suspect this degradation and incursion of our nations is what the EU strives for).
agreed.
one thing people dont seem to realise about britain - THERE IS NO ROOM FOR MORE PEOPLE
britain is full.
in a nutshell: immigrants come in, they take the jobs (yes they do), they work for less money, british people get laid off in favour of cheap foreign labour who work illegal hours for pathetic wages. all wages in britain fall. unemployment is highest ever.
90% of britains problems are because of over crowding. _________________
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 26045 Location: Lancashire, UK
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:02 pm Post subject:
Woofer123 wrote:
I doubt all British Muslims are like that.
This is true - a lot aren't. In fact, some are trying to turn apostate if they can as they can see what's happening in their own communities. Every British Muslim's experience is different.
Woofer123 wrote:
Those you are talking about are only the extremists, which every religion has.
True, but if there is a considerable minority of extremists which aren't clamped down upon (because the government and other organisations are too afraid of upsetting them) then you have a problem, especially when dealing with some of the crimes that Muslims have committed. Walls of silence anyone?
Woofer123 wrote:
Muslims should integrate, but whenever they try to in Europe they are always confronted with bigotry.
A lot genuinely want to integrate. A lot don't, though - they want to basically speak Urdu and wear niqabs whilst claiming benefits and sneering at the local population. I say the word 'local' because many behave like a breed apart from the rest of us. Their culture and outlook on life is completely hived off from the rest of us. We share the same living space but many don't share our identity.
Woofer123 wrote:
In the UK example, Immigrants should adopt British culture while at the same time being able to remain practicing Muslims....
I don't have a problem with that. But this often isn't happening. In fact, second and third generation immigrants are often more radical and intolerant than their parents. They're in a kind of no-man's-land - they're not "British" but they're not "Pakistani Muslim" either. Which leads some to treat local non-Muslim women badly (because they don't behave like 'their' women) whilst keeping their own women under lock and key.
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Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 26045 Location: Lancashire, UK
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:03 pm Post subject:
TheDarkMage wrote:
in a nutshell: immigrants come in, they take the jobs (yes they do), they work for less money, british people get laid off in favour of cheap foreign labour who work illegal hours for pathetic wages.
Joined: Sep 22, 2008 Age: 76 Posts: 29316 Location: New Jersey
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:07 pm Post subject:
TheDarkMage wrote:
in a nutshell: immigrants come in, they take the jobs (yes they do), they work for less money, british people get laid off in favour of cheap foreign labour who work illegal hours for pathetic wages. all wages in britain fall. unemployment is highest ever.
90% of britains problems are because of over crowding.
I have a solution. Brits should work for lower wages. Then labor would not need to be imported.
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 26045 Location: Lancashire, UK
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:09 pm Post subject:
ruveyn wrote:
I have a solution. Brits should work for lower wages.
The current 'workfare' set up in the UK is to make people work for their Jobseekers' Allowance, stacking shelves for their benefits. It works out at around $3 an hour, and is effectively compulsory.
Joined: Sep 22, 2008 Age: 76 Posts: 29316 Location: New Jersey
Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:12 pm Post subject:
Tequila wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
I have a solution. Brits should work for lower wages.
The current 'workfare' set up in the UK is to make people work for their Jobseekers' Allowance, stacking shelves for their benefits. It works out at around $3 an hour, and is effectively compulsory.
