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| snapcap wrote: | | Vigilans wrote: | | All you are demonstrating is your complete lack of understanding |
I guess that's your belief...or do you not believe that I am correct and that is your non-position   |
Anything else to add to this useful little sermon of yours or are you done spewing nonsense?
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| Vigilans wrote: | | snapcap wrote: | | Vigilans wrote: | | All you are demonstrating is your complete lack of understanding |
I guess that's your belief...or do you not believe that I am correct and that is your non-position |
Anything else to add to this useful little sermon of yours or are you done spewing nonsense? |
Yeah, you should ditch the irrational thought.
If you really do believe in your non-position.
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| Vigilans wrote: | | snapcap wrote: | | Vigilans wrote: | | All you are demonstrating is your complete lack of understanding |
I guess that's your belief...or do you not believe that I am correct and that is your non-position |
Anything else to add to this useful little sermon of yours or are you done spewing nonsense? |
Do what I do humor them its fun |
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Vigilans
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| snapcap wrote: | | Vigilans wrote: | | snapcap wrote: | | Vigilans wrote: | | All you are demonstrating is your complete lack of understanding |
I guess that's your belief...or do you not believe that I am correct and that is your non-position |
Anything else to add to this useful little sermon of yours or are you done spewing nonsense? |
Yeah, you should ditch the irrational thought. |
I recommend you follow your own advice. Or better yet, actually learn a thing or two about something before deciding to tell people actually involved in it what they "really" believe. Your entire argument is basically pigeon holing atheism, I have seen nothing rational from you
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| Havent you learn by now Vigilians its pointless to argue try using humor. |
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| Vigilans wrote: | | snapcap wrote: | | Vigilans wrote: | | snapcap wrote: | | Vigilans wrote: | | All you are demonstrating is your complete lack of understanding |
I guess that's your belief...or do you not believe that I am correct and that is your non-position |
Anything else to add to this useful little sermon of yours or are you done spewing nonsense? |
Yeah, you should ditch the irrational thought. |
I recommend you follow your own advice. Or better yet, actually learn a thing or two about something before deciding to tell people actually involved in it what they "really" believe. Your entire argument is basically pigeon holing atheism, I have seen nothing rational from you |
In my OP, I asked why do some atheists consider their disbelief not a belief. Are you saying that I'm wrong? That isn't pigeon holing. I'm sure there are atheists that will claim belief in the nonexistence of God is their belief. |
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| Joker wrote: | | Havent you learn by now Vigilians its pointless to argue try using humor. |
I can't wrap my head around why some atheists will say that, unless they want to fancy themselves as having superior thought, perched on a imaginary cloud above theists. |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| snapcap wrote: | | Vigilans wrote: | | snapcap wrote: | | Vigilans wrote: | | snapcap wrote: | | Vigilans wrote: | | All you are demonstrating is your complete lack of understanding |
I guess that's your belief...or do you not believe that I am correct and that is your non-position |
Anything else to add to this useful little sermon of yours or are you done spewing nonsense? |
Yeah, you should ditch the irrational thought. |
I recommend you follow your own advice. Or better yet, actually learn a thing or two about something before deciding to tell people actually involved in it what they "really" believe. Your entire argument is basically pigeon holing atheism, I have seen nothing rational from you |
In my OP, I asked why do some atheists consider their disbelief not a belief. Are you saying that I'm wrong? That isn't pigeon holing. I'm sure there are atheists that will claim belief in the nonexistence of God is their belief. |
Do you assume atheists wake up every morning and think about how they do not believe in God/s? Or do they act in certain ways because they do not believe in God/s? I consider the question of God/s intellectually irrelevant and meaningless.
I'm sure you do not believe in Zeus or Poseidon- does your non belief in them define your worldview?
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| snapcap wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | Havent you learn by now Vigilians its pointless to argue try using humor. |
I can't wrap my head around why some atheists will say that, unless they want to fancy themselves as having superior thought, perched on a imaginary cloud above theists. |
It pretty much is pointless to argue with faith, faith does not require evidence or a logical progression of events to achieve
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| Vigilans wrote: |
Do you assume atheists wake up every morning and think about how they do not believe in God/s? |
Nope, I don't think all atheists are obsessed with their beliefs. But they do consider them from time to time, because atheists do leave the bandwagon to become some sort of theist.
| Quote: | | Or do they act in certain ways because they do not believe in God/s? |
I'd say they are less likely to go to church.
| Quote: | | I consider the question of God/s intellectually irrelevant and meaningless. |
So what? It's still your belief, sorry.
| Quote: | | I'm sure you do not believe in Zeus or Poseidon- does your non belief in them define your worldview? |
I don't know. I don't know what it's like living in a world that is devoid of the notion of Zeus or Posedion. |
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| Vigilans wrote: | | snapcap wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | Havent you learn by now Vigilians its pointless to argue try using humor. |
I can't wrap my head around why some atheists will say that, unless they want to fancy themselves as having superior thought, perched on a imaginary cloud above theists. |
It pretty much is pointless to argue with faith, faith does not require evidence or a logical progression of events to achieve |
So your objective is to be like them? Sounds like an emotional plea more than anything. It's not very rational.
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| Vigilans wrote: | | snapcap wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | Havent you learn by now Vigilians its pointless to argue try using humor. |
I can't wrap my head around why some atheists will say that, unless they want to fancy themselves as having superior thought, perched on a imaginary cloud above theists. |
It pretty much is pointless to argue with faith, faith does not require evidence or a logical progression of events to achieve |
Your right faith is believeing with out seeing their is a old saying religious people see by faith not by sight. |
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| snapcap wrote: | | Vigilans wrote: |
Do you assume atheists wake up every morning and think about how they do not believe in God/s? |
Nope, I don't think all atheists are obsessed with their beliefs. But they do consider them from time to time, because atheists do leave the bandwagon to become some sort of theist. |
How so?
| snapcap wrote: | | Quote: | | Or do they act in certain ways because they do not believe in God/s? |
I'd say they are less likely to go to church.
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Lots of people who believe in God/s do not go to church. Likewise some atheists go to church. Is there a code of behavior for being an atheist?
| snapcap wrote: | | Quote: | | I consider the question of God/s intellectually irrelevant and meaningless. |
So what? It's still your belief, sorry. |
It is not something I consider a core part of my identity on any level. It is my opinion
| snapcap wrote: | | Quote: | | I'm sure you do not believe in Zeus or Poseidon- does your non belief in them define your worldview? |
I don't know. I don't know what it's like living in a world that is devoid of the notion of Zeus or Posedion. |
This does not answer my question.
| snapcap wrote: | | So your objective is to be like them? Sounds like an emotional plea more than anything. It's not very rational. |
How do you get that?
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They don't feel atheism complements their life any longer so they feel they need to shed the belief for something else.
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Lots of people who believe in God/s do not go to church. Likewise some atheists go to church. Is there a code of behavior for being an atheist? |
But I'd say being a theist increases your chances of stepping into a church. Do you think there is no difference what so ever?
| Quote: | | It is not something I consider a core part of my identity on any level. It is my opinion |
And just like your belief, your opinion can potential change. You say it like atheism is a part of your core of who you are. How did that become so?
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I don't know. I don't know what it's like living in a world that is devoid of the notion of Zeus or Posedion. |
| Quote: | | This does not answer my question. |
It's a sliver of it, I guess. I can't say that the concept of them had no gravity on my life at all. In that case, they might have well not existed, but of course they do.
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How do you get that? |
Do you believe that not believing in God constitutes as a lack of belief, meaning that even the belief that God doesn't exist doesn't count as a belief? |
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| snapcap wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | Havent you learn by now Vigilians its pointless to argue try using humor. |
I can't wrap my head around why some atheists will say that, unless they want to fancy themselves as having superior thought, perched on a imaginary cloud above theists. |
Umm snapcap I go to church every sunday and I am a youth group leader an on our churchs youth council go and mission trips help areas that get hit by natural disasters my opinon is if people do not believe in God then let them what harm are they doing? |
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