skyblue1
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| Jory wrote: | | Asp-Z wrote: | | Don't use your real name on the internet. This is sound advice whether or not you care about employers looking at your profile. |
Luckily, my real name is Fartbag McTwinkletits, so people just assume I'm giving them a fake name when I use it online. |
**LOL**
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Feralucce
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hanyo
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:03 am Post subject: |
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| YippySkippy wrote: | A potential employer who asks for your FB password is telling you a lot about THEIR ethics - or lack thereof.
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Anyone who wants that wants unethical rule breaking employees since it is against Facebook's rules to give your password to other people.
Not that I'm one to talk since without realizing the rule was there I broke their "you must use your real name" rule. I can't do that. Giving out certain information online like my full real name to me is like putting out an invitation saying "Here I am, please harass and stalk me". I value my privacy. |
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Keeno
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| I too would like to know what happens if you don't use Facebook. I imagine not having Facebook in the first place would be detrimental to getting the job since they reckon you are either not social, or defensive, not a good impression as far as an employer's concerned. Right or wrong? |
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League_Girl
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| I found out that if you just deactivate your account, you will not lose everything nor have to re add your friends when you reactivate it again. So I think I would just deactivate my account if I were to look for a job. |
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Tequila
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Keeno wrote: | | I too would like to know what happens if you don't use Facebook. I imagine not having Facebook in the first place would be detrimental to getting the job since they reckon you are either not social, or defensive, not a good impression as far as an employer's concerned. Right or wrong? |
I don't have a mobile phone either. |
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Jory
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I wonder if we're moving toward a point in which everyone will need some kind of social networking profile, just like we got to the point in which everyone needed a credit card to do anything in the modern world. People today think you're hiding something if you want to pay for something with cash instead of a credit card. |
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Tequila
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| Jory wrote: | | People today think you're hiding something if you want to pay for something with cash instead of a credit card. |
It depends what for, I think. |
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hanyo
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Jory wrote: | | I wonder if we're moving toward a point in which everyone will need some kind of social networking profile, just like we got to the point in which everyone needed a credit card to do anything in the modern world. People today think you're hiding something if you want to pay for something with cash instead of a credit card. |
My mother doesn't have credit cards and I don't either except a prepaid one with almost no money on it. I only use it to pay for my online game because they didn't have those game cards when I started playing.
I also don't have a bank account or an id. |
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Jory
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| ^ Tried to get a hotel room recently? |
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hanyo
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| Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Jory wrote: | | ^ Tried to get a hotel room recently? |
No. If something requires a credit card I go without. If it can't be paid for by cash or money order I don't have it.
I would have gotten rid of my prepaid credit card when it expired but they renewed it automatically. I don't even need that if I use game cards for my mmorpg.
I tried to get a new id but they wanted me to have 6 points to get one and I only have 3-4.
I've actually applied for credit cards in the past but I always got denied because I have no income. I've also known too many people whose credit card debt got out of hand. In a way those prepaid ones are better since you can't end up going into debt with those. You can only spend the money you actually have. |
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Billybones
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I agree that this practice is outrageous, but how this is any more invasive & degrading than suspicionless drug testing? After all, that practice now seems to have won broad social acceptance. So, why shouldn't we also accept & learn to live with this? As we always hear, if we have nothing to hide, we should have nothing to fear & no objections to this, right?
To me, this is just another example as to how the War on Drugs has succeeded in lessening our expectations of privacy & liberty, & in tilting the employer/employee power relationship decisively in favor of the employer. |
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Sweetleaf
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| Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Jory wrote: | | I wonder if we're moving toward a point in which everyone will need some kind of social networking profile, just like we got to the point in which everyone needed a credit card to do anything in the modern world. People today think you're hiding something if you want to pay for something with cash instead of a credit card. |
and some things are much easier to obtain with cash, I think the only thing holding them back from eliminating cash is the amount of uproar it would probably cause, I mean I know I'd be pretty pissed if I was forced to use a credit card and did not have the choice of having cash to do with what i want.
Then of course it would cost money to convert everything to accept credit cards, some stores don't take credit cards, people usually prefer cash if they are having a garage sale ect.
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Sweetleaf
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| Billybones wrote: | I agree that this practice is outrageous, but how this is any more invasive & degrading than suspicionless drug testing? After all, that practice now seems to have won broad social acceptance. So, why shouldn't we also accept & learn to live with this? As we always hear, if we have nothing to hide, we should have nothing to fear & no objections to this, right?
To me, this is just another example as to how the War on Drugs has succeeded in lessening our expectations of privacy & liberty, & in tilting the employer/employee power relationship decisively in favor of the employer. |
Its basically the same logic of drug testing, 'you have to prove you don't make any personal choices we don't like.' I think to accept and live with these things is BS, I mean first drug testing, now asking for peoples passwards? where the hell will it end if everyone just accepts it and allows all our rights to be taken away.
For one it should not even be illegal to use drugs, especially when alcohol and cigarettes and caffeine are all legal...what is wrong with using drugs in its self? and what is wrong with not wanting people to have access to your private information.
I mean you really think people should just accept this crap..and give their passwards to employers? I mean lets think of what this means, not only can they see what you put there for people to see but they can see your private messages. I don't know about anyone else but I don't want my employer reading a private conversation between me and a trusted friend or family member for instance. Nor would my friends and family members appreciate my employer being able to see what private messeges they send me.
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hanyo
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Drug tests are bad enough but snooping through someone's Facebook is different. That is private, unless you have everything public in which case they don't need a password to see everything. It's like them tapping your phone to listen in on your private conversations.
I won't give anyone my password to anything. I take account security very seriously. If they asked I wouldn't know what to tell them since my passwords are so secure I don't even know most of them. Not that I'd tell them anyways. |
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