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Would you date a guy because he has a fancy car?

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I am not female/or gay.

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The_Face_of_Boo
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:39 am Post subject:

Kjas wrote:

To Boo,

I have some serious questions for you.

To be honest, I have never dated a guy who owns a car.

If I really cared about what car a guy has (which I don't, by the way, or even if he has one), do you think I would own an old 180SX myself? Nissans aren't exactly high status Smile

. Furthermore, do you think I would have worked on it so much myself over the years also? Why would I invest my own time and energy like that when I could pay someone to do it for me, if it was just about the money? If it was about the money I could have brought a new and better car rather than muck around with this one as much as I have. That doesn't make sense to me.

From what I have observed, you seem to have a bit of a chip on your shoulder when it comes to things like money and status (that isn't an insult, simply an observation). Could it be that it colours your view enough to not being able to distinguish from someone who was making a joke to someone who really means it?

I have seen you make comments towards Smudge like this quite a few times. I don't know if what you say about her is true or not, but does it matter, and if so, why? And if it is about Smudge, then why don't you just say that or take this to a PM conversation with her?

Well, for smudge, I am started to believe that she didn't really mean it back then after all or she just changed her mind XD.

Honestly, women change their minds in what they want in men, I see it all the time, they say they won't go for X (ie. a trait, personality type, social class, religion...etc) yet they end up with X. Fantasy is totally =/= reality, i guess.

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If I really cared about what car a guy has (which I don't, by the way, or even if he has one), do you think I would own an old 180SX myself? Nissans aren't exactly high status Smile

Well, the woman's own car isn't an indicator whether she likes men for their fancy cars or not, she probably simply can't afford something more than Nissan but that it doesn't rule out the possibility that she likes fancy cars or likes a guy for his fancy car.

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Why would I invest my own time and energy like that when I could pay someone to do it for me, if it was just about the money? If it was about the money I could have brought a new and better car rather than muck around with this one as much as I have. That doesn't make sense to me.

A personal passion you have perhaps? yet this has nothing to do with guys and fancy cars.

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From what I have observed, you seem to have a bit of a chip on your shoulder when it comes to things like money and status (that isn't an insult, simply an observation). Could it be that it colours your view enough to not being able to distinguish from someone who was making a joke to someone who really means it?

It was quite amusing, but i'll set her free from now on ;p

Well, it's hard to see a joke in forum posts sometimes.

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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:48 am Post subject:

I'm the first person who put "yes" In general, no, I wouldn't. But I do have one exception. I happen to be in love with Dodge Vipers (SRT or RT10.. 1993-2012, doesn't matter I love them all) and have made a pact with myself that if a strange man in a Viper ever offered me a ride, I'd take it _________________ Non-NT something. Married to a diagnosed aspie. Nothing is absolute.

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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:27 am Post subject:

i have had a number of girls that wanted to be my girlfriend before my current girlfriend (who is not really a true girlfriend), and none of them were in any way interested in my car. this is my car (560 sel) some people think it is opulent, but the girls think it is kind of "wanky" and they think i bought it for status reasons. i bought it because i like the way it feels to drive, and i like the exhilarating rush of adrenaline that is provided when i put my foot down. it is not really that expensive because it is old, but the girls i know think it must be expensive even though i have told them it is not (it is to repair and run however). when we get to where we were driving to, we get out and close the doors behind us and never give another thought to the car we walk away from. my car is not in the league of a porsche or lamborghini so i do not know.

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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:15 am Post subject:

Wolfheart wrote:

sunshower wrote:

I've always been pretty indifferent to cars, although it's useful if someone has a car and can drive it as I think that's an achievement in itself (one I hope to one day achieve). As far as types of cars go, I like practicality over unnecessary showiness, that's the type of car I'd buy - a practical car that was good value for money. There's not much point in buying a car for what it looks like because 99% of cars look ugly irrespective and the 1% that actually are more visually pleasing than the rest are way too expensive to be affordable by the normal population.

As far as buying a car because of what brand it is, it's the same as buying a clothing item because of a brand label on it when you can buy a clothing item identical in appearance without the brand label for a fraction of the price. You're basically paying for an arbitrary social symbol, which in my opinion is the equivalent of flushing several grand (well a lot more than that really) down the toilet.

Exactly, as long as the car can go from one point to the next, that's the main purpose, however you must be able to appreciate mechanical aptitude and why different designs might appeal to different people, it is a matter of perspective. I think someone with mechanical aptitude can be impressive if they have an understanding and dedication towards learning about a specific car or means of transport.

If someone devotes hours to designing and building a car, is it as impressive to me as someone who spends hours designing a piece of art or architecture? Is it as impressive as someone that has a dedication towards a particular sport or in your case, a musical instrument? Of course not, however to someone with good mechanical aptitude and understanding, it might be.

I don't know, once people get to know me, my car hobby just becomes another "man he talks about ____ too damned much." I mean people find it useful and think I'm a magician because I can like change their brake pads, but yeah. But for me, in some ways, it's another thing that isolates me from people, as not too many people I know are into cars, nor do they wanna conversate about cars very much.

But yeah, cars are sweet.

Sweet 560SEL, B9. Cool! And Kjas, 180SXs are kinda fancy. It shows some class, that you bought one over like...a Sentra. Plus you could buy a RB26 Skyline motor and defeat all your car racing enemies with it. I kinda wish I got a S13 over my MKII Supra, but MKII Supras do look cooler, but an S13 has such easier to find parts...
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:39 am Post subject:

An expensive car could be an indicator of wealth, and wealth is a big part of survival value. If Mystery Method is to be believed human women are more predisposed to look for survival value in a mate whereas men look for more replication value. Which makes a lot of sense seeing as when a woman is pregnant she is vulnerable and needs to be provided for, and human child raising is a long process. _________________ ...and his prowess on the battlefield is surpassed only by his skill in the bed chamber.

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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:47 am Post subject:

b9 wrote:

i have had a number of girls that wanted to be my girlfriend before my current girlfriend (who is not really a true girlfriend), and none of them were in any way interested in my car.

this is my car (560 sel)

some people think it is opulent, but the girls think it is kind of "wanky" and they think i bought it for status reasons.
i bought it because i like the way it feels to drive, and i like the exhilarating rush of adrenaline that is provided when i put my foot down.
it is not really that expensive because it is old, but the girls i know think it must be expensive even though i have told them it is not (it is to repair and run however).

when we get to where we were driving to, we get out and close the doors behind us and never give another thought to the car we walk away from.

my car is not in the league of a porsche or lamborghini so i do not know.

You can get a porsche 944, 928 or 924 for less than what you got that merc for. I used to have this

with this many miles on it

it broke something new every day and got it for $1000. Nothing fancy about it.

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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:02 am Post subject:

Wow Kjas - how did you do it? Lol. Maybe cos Boo had already decided I was "one of them" and therefore nothing I said would be listened to. You gotta be open-minded, Boo. You can miss out on many potential partners and friends by dismissing people so easily, particularly when misunderstandings occur, which us aspies are so prone to.

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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:09 am Post subject:

Is this the same Boo that said that looks are the only thing that mattered? _________________ www.wrongplanet.net/postp5013377.html&highlight=#5013377 Sora: "My friends are my power." Ventus: "I'm asking you as a friend. Just... put an end to me."

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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:17 am Post subject:

PastFixations wrote:

Is this the same Boo that said that looks are the only thing that mattered?

I haven't actually seen him say that, but it would be an interesting contradiction for his own beliefs, wouldn't it?

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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:58 am Post subject:

Subotai wrote:

An expensive car could be an indicator of wealth, and wealth is a big part of survival value.
If Mystery Method is to be believed human women are more predisposed to look for survival value in a mate whereas men look for more replication value.
Which makes a lot of sense seeing as when a woman is pregnant she is vulnerable and needs to be provided for, and human child raising is a long process.

Sounds like something out of the 15th century.

An indicator of wealth? but what is wealth an indicator of? Money isn't an indicator of good character since it can be stolen or inherited. That absolutely makes no sense and seems black and white, what if you don't want children? What if your partner can't have kids? Not everyone desires to be a father or a mother, there are some women that can't have children and some that simply don't want them.

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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:03 am Post subject:

^ It's instinctual to look for a mate with "survival skills" which has evolved into "lots of money" or "a good career" in modern society. Cars can be an indicator of such. It's like a bird building a big fancy nest to attract his mate. _________________ Non-NT something. Married to a diagnosed aspie. Nothing is absolute.

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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:25 am Post subject:

smudge wrote:

PastFixations wrote:

Is this the same Boo that said that looks are the only thing that mattered?

I haven't actually seen him say that, but it would be an interesting contradiction for his own beliefs, wouldn't it?

I think it was in my old thread about rich guys, does that ring a bell?
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:28 am Post subject:

myth wrote:

^ It's instinctual to look for a mate with "survival skills" which has evolved into "lots of money" or "a good career" in modern society. Cars can be an indicator of such. It's like a bird building a big fancy nest to attract his mate.

For a gold digger? Maybe so. You are saying everyone just seeks to live at the pinnacle of the capitalist dream, right? That's the ultimate hope, the reason why everyone does everything is based on reaching the American dream? Everything you do and everyone you have ever approached has been based on that? It just sounds very black and white to me, surely there must have been other factors that attracted you to a person or attracted you to a certain interest or pursuit?

What about people like sunshower that preach practicality and simplicity over aesthetics? what about people that are minimalists and only appreciate the simple things in life? what about women that can't give birth to children? what about women that join the military? I am saying you can't look at it in black and white because not everyone desires the Hollywood lifestyle.

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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:33 am Post subject:

myth wrote:

Exactly. For those who do go out with people for monetary reasons - it's the same as going for someone who is youthful/beautiful which most people do, or going out with someone more/as intelligent as you are - that's just as shallow a want. Boo shouldn't pick so heavily on those who disagree with his own values - people shouldn't need confirmation from him just because their values conflict. Everyone has different values and he should respect that. Just as there are different cultures, beliefs and whathaveyou. In the end, disrespecting other people for their values is wrong.