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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes but, just speculate who will be the U.S. presidential candidates in 2016. We are not exactly awash in competent leadership.


Our leadership is so open-minded that their brains have leaked out.

The U.S. has not had decent leadership since the time of Eisenhower or perhaps Kennedy. Lyndon Johnson was the beginning of the hard fall. He was a crook and a swindler right into his bone marrow.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hesitate to say this, but despite all their faults, Johnson and Nixon actually accomplished alot and had the country headed in a fairly good direction. Since then we have had some grandstanders who pleased the crowd de jour.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I hesitate to say this, but despite all their faults, Johnson and Nixon actually accomplished alot and had the country headed in a fairly good direction. Since then we have had some grandstanders who pleased the crowd de jour.



Your buddy LBJ got us into a 10 year long war (!!!!) in which 60,000 Americans were killed for no discernible benefit or gain for the United States. If you think the younger Bush was reckless, LBJ had half a million pair of boots on the ground in Viet Nam. And he let that abomination Macnamara feed our troops into the meat grinder with no gain to the nation. The men died for no good reason.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruveyn -- Please, I did say despite their faults. Yes, of course, Vietnam was a national disgrace, disaster, etc. etc.
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Oldout wrote:
I hesitate to say this, but despite all their faults, Johnson and Nixon actually accomplished alot and had the country headed in a fairly good direction. Since then we have had some grandstanders who pleased the crowd de jour.


Lyndon Johnson's spending on a wretched AND expensive war, PLUS his Great Society boondoggle produced a wicked rate of inflation. We had stagflation as a result of Johnson's policies. LBJ started the utter ruination of our economy which has been declining since. The only relief came during the administration of Bill Clinton when thanks to a Republic congress controlled spending. This brief respite was not enough to save us. We got Dubya and his generous redistribution of wealth the the least worthy among us. That plus two wars (Iraq and Afghanistan) put us on the skids.

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ruyeyn, you seem to have given this a lot of thought. You will surely appreciate I live in this green and pleasant land of England where we are all wonderfully green, so much so we feel it is our bounden duty to tell the rest of the world to be the same. As you already know we no longer have a steel industry, shipyards, potteries, or Dark Satanic Mills. You know they have mostly gone to Asia. We here in the UK as everywhere else realised the cost of greeness, but in places like China raising a surplus to tackle the problem will only be possible when we pay more for Chinese goods. Obviously the Chinese people want more pay and they can't have that either. It isn't just China anyway. We have cheap River Cobbler fish in our supermarket from Vietnam, but would you really ant to eat this fish farmed on the Mekong Delta choc a block with effluent from industry.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruveyn wrote:
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Yes but, just speculate who will be the U.S. presidential candidates in 2016. We are not exactly awash in competent leadership.


Our leadership is so open-minded that their brains have leaked out.

Really? It seems to me more like they're stuck saying the same old things over and over and over and over and over and over and over. I'd have said that a new thought is incapable of getting past the maximum-security prison they keep their brains in. The US seems to be stuck in a rut. No matter what direction you'd like to see it go, if it isn't the (very similar) directions of Democrat corporatism or Republican corporatism you're going to be disappointed.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

China will eventually surpass us in health problems after adopting a western style diet. They will probably blame the problems their pollution is causing on McDonalds.

Good opportunity for people that know the Chinese language+nursing+Chinese holistic medicine.
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These "our economy is bigger than yours" contests are pretty foolish. Besides, China's per capita GDP ain't surpassing America's anytime soon and it's bound to hit a wall in its accelerating growth eventually.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



I found this rather interesting. And yes alot of our American cars are being manufactured in China not only ford but the new Buicks as well. Home Depots in China.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grebels wrote:
ruyeyn, you seem to have given this a lot of thought. You will surely appreciate I live in this green and pleasant land of England where we are all wonderfully green, so much so we feel it is our bounden duty to tell the rest of the world to be the same. As you already know we no longer have a steel industry, shipyards, potteries, or Dark Satanic Mills. You know they have mostly gone to Asia. We here in the UK as everywhere else realised the cost of greeness, but in places like China raising a surplus to tackle the problem will only be possible when we pay more for Chinese goods. Obviously the Chinese people want more pay and they can't have that either. It isn't just China anyway. We have cheap River Cobbler fish in our supermarket from Vietnam, but would you really ant to eat this fish farmed on the Mekong Delta choc a block with effluent from industry.


I would not consume any edible or any medicine made in China. The cut corners on safety and quality. They are in the same bag as American industry was during the age of Robber Barons. There was a time when American meat products were suspect. An expose of the hideous conditions of the American slaughter houses was made in the novel -The Jungle-. We managed to live passed that by putting in reasonable health and quality regulations. I will not hold my breath until the Chinese do something similar.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

China has already surpassed the US in every way the only thing we have on them is Democracy that's it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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China has already surpassed the US in every way the only thing we have on them is Democracy that's it.



Not true. A billion of the 1.3 billion Chinese live in abject poverty. For the .3 billion who live in the big cities, life is looking up.

By the way, now many Nobel Prizes have gone to Chinese scientists?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ruveyn wrote:
Joker wrote:
China has already surpassed the US in every way the only thing we have on them is Democracy that's it.



Not true. A billion of the 1.3 billion Chinese live in abject poverty. For the .3 billion who live in the big cities, life is looking up.

By the way, now many Nobel Prizes have gone to Chinese scientists?

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True but to me if Barack Obama can win a Nobel Prize then that means anyone could win it for doing nothing just like BO did to get it.

China is now the world's top grocery market. The US has slipped to the No. 2 position.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/macro/china-surpasses-us-become-worlds-largest-grocery-market

The link is a little old but it explains how China has become the world's top grocery market.
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China taking the lead in wind energy devolopment. So much for the dirty air eh?btw This vid is about 6 years old Laughing
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