| Who do you think will win the presidential election in the USA? |
| President Obama |
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84% |
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| Mitt Romney |
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15% |
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Joker
Sinn Fein
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Age: 24
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Location: North Carolina The Tar Heel State :)
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| Kraichgauer wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | Kraichgauer wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | Kraichgauer wrote: | | Joker wrote: | | Kraichgauer wrote: | | ArrantPariah wrote: | It appears that most of you guys are a lot more optimistic than I am.
As I perceive things: roughly 40 percent of the nation consists of committed Evango-Fascists. All that Romney has to do is spend the billion dollars (give or take a few hundred million) at his disposal to convince another 10 percent of the population to vote for him, and the country is his.
Realistically, the Solidly Stupid South and most of the Great Plains/Desert/Rocky Mountain states will be his by default. It is just a matter of spending enormous sums of money on advertising and robo-calling in a few swing states (Florida, Ohio, a couple of others) to get enough idiots to vote for him, and sic transit natio.
Then, school children throughout the land will taught to read from the Book of Mormon.
Curse you, Abraham Lincoln!!!!! |
But how many Evangelin-fascists will stay home because they will refuse to vote for a Mormon? I'm not ready to discount evangelical bigotry just yet, that would help insure President Obama a second term.
-Bill,otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
Obama won a lot of votes from methodists if I do recall my church was supporting Obama during his campign we still do. |
Cool. 
-Bill,otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
Yeah it is ptetty bitchin |
My own Lutheran Church Missouri Synod generally stays out of promoting political candidates or parties, as we would doubtlessly see out church split in two.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
My own Hopewell united methodist church supported Obama because we liked his humanitarian views and we didn't have our memmebers go to the booths to vote for him but many of my church memmebers support Obama.
How ever my Catholic family memmebers are very against him and do not view me as a christian because I am a Protestant/Methodist. |
That's really sad that your Catholic relatives think you're not a Christian. Growing up, I had Seventh Day Adventist relatives who looked at us and our other Lutheran relatives with suspicion.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
When you come from a Irish family that is divided between Catholic and Proestant this sorta thing is gonna happen because the Proestants do not bow down to the authoirty of the Vatican and Pope we are not viewed as Christians. |
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ArrantPariah
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| Kraichgauer wrote: |
But how many Evangelin-fascists will stay home because they will refuse to vote for a Mormon? I'm not ready to discount evangelical bigotry just yet, that would help insure President Obama a second term.
-Bill,otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
Certainly any self-respecting Conservative who is capable of formulating his own visceral response will detest Mitt Romney not only for his Mormonism, but also for being a member of the East Coast/Michigan intellectual elite whose Massachusetts Health Care Reform Act ("Romneycare") served as a model for the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act ("Obamacare"), for being very soft on homosexuality, for being able to speak French, for not taking part in the fun in Vietnam, and for being erudite.
But, how many self-respecting Conservatives are actually capable of formulating their own visceral responses? They will overlook Mitt Romney's Mormonism, and his French-language skills, and do what Rupert Murdoch tells them to do. |
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ruveyn
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Age: 76
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Location: New Jersey
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| ArrantPariah wrote: |
But, how many self-respecting Conservatives are actually capable of formulating their own visceral responses? They will overlook Mitt Romney's Mormonism, and his French-language skills, and do what Rupert Murdoch tells them to do. |
Wait until November and you will find out.
ruveyn |
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ArrantPariah
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| ruveyn wrote: | | ArrantPariah wrote: |
But, how many self-respecting Conservatives are actually capable of formulating their own visceral responses? They will overlook Mitt Romney's Mormonism, and his French-language skills, and do what Rupert Murdoch tells them to do. |
Wait until November and you will find out.
ruveyn |
The suspense is difficult to bear. |
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snapcap
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Age: 31
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:32 am Post subject: |
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I'd like to share this video question during the next debate:
"My question is for Mitt Romney. Governor Romney, your Mormon religion teaches that black people are the decedents of the angels that wouldn't side with either Jesus or Lucifer. Do you believe 1/2 of Obama didn't side with Jesus or Lucifer?"
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*some atheist walks outside and picks up stick*
some atheist to stick: "You're like me!" |
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Oldout
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Joined: Feb 10, 2012
Posts: 1539
Location: Reading, PA
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:32 am Post subject: |
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| Too early to tell it would just be a guess. I will make one prediction that I'm confident in -- the American people will lose. |
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ruveyn
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Location: New Jersey
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Oldout wrote: | | Too early to tell it would just be a guess. I will make one prediction that I'm confident in -- the American people will lose. |
Absolutely. If we get Barak the Despicable or Mitt the Plastic Mormon we will be the worse off for it.
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Kraichgauer
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| ruveyn wrote: | | Oldout wrote: | | Too early to tell it would just be a guess. I will make one prediction that I'm confident in -- the American people will lose. |
Absolutely. If we get Barak the Despicable or Mitt the Plastic Mormon we will be the worse off for it.
ruveyn |
Well, I should think you don't have much to look forward to for the next four years, as Obama and Romney are the only two candidates who have a snow balls chance.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
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Rocky
This dude is one hoopy frood!
Joined: May 02, 2008
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Raptor wrote: | | I think people are ready for "change" again after the most recent "change" didn't change much........ |
You mean change back to the Republican policies that George Bush used to start the economy into the tailspin that President Obama has had to deal with from the first day of his term? I would have preferred more change, but the Republican dominated congress kept him from doing more. |
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Kraichgauer
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Rocky wrote: | | Raptor wrote: | | I think people are ready for "change" again after the most recent "change" didn't change much........ |
You mean change back to the Republican policies that George Bush used to start the economy into the tailspin that President Obama has had to deal with from the first day of his term? I would have preferred more change, but the Republican dominated congress kept him from doing more. |
Absolutely correct.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
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marshall
Under the whirlwind
Joined: Apr 15, 2007
Posts: 9445
Location: Western Michigan
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| ArrantPariah wrote: | It appears that most of you guys are a lot more optimistic than I am.
As I perceive things: roughly 40 percent of the nation consists of committed Evango-Fascists. All that Romney has to do is spend the billion dollars (give or take a few hundred million) at his disposal to convince another 10 percent of the population to vote for him, and the country is his.
Realistically, the Solidly Stupid South and most of the Great Plains/Desert/Rocky Mountain states will be his by default. It is just a matter of spending enormous sums of money on advertising and robo-calling in a few swing states (Florida, Ohio, a couple of others) to get enough idiots to vote for him, and sic transit natio.
Then, school children throughout the land will taught to read from the Book of Mormon.
Curse you, Abraham Lincoln!!!!! |
The problem is right-wingers are more likely "fall in line" and vote for the "lesser of two evils" while progressives become so depressed with the "options" available that they decide to stay home on election day. Thus 30% of the population who are right-wingers will keep pushing the country farther and farther to the right. When the repugs win with less than 30% eligible voters actually voting for them it's a fair sign that we don't have a functioning democracy. |
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Jacoby
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Kraichgauer wrote: | | Rocky wrote: | | Raptor wrote: | | I think people are ready for "change" again after the most recent "change" didn't change much........ |
You mean change back to the Republican policies that George Bush used to start the economy into the tailspin that President Obama has had to deal with from the first day of his term? I would have preferred more change, but the Republican dominated congress kept him from doing more. |
Absolutely correct.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
Obama's economic policies aren't any different than Bush's.
There was no change. |
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Kraichgauer
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Jacoby wrote: | | Kraichgauer wrote: | | Rocky wrote: | | Raptor wrote: | | I think people are ready for "change" again after the most recent "change" didn't change much........ |
You mean change back to the Republican policies that George Bush used to start the economy into the tailspin that President Obama has had to deal with from the first day of his term? I would have preferred more change, but the Republican dominated congress kept him from doing more. |
Absolutely correct.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
Obama's economic policies aren't any different than Bush's.
There was no change. |
Because the Republican Congress and the Bluedog Conservadems didn't allow for that change to happen.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer |
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ArrantPariah
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The "Liberal" Romney doesn't seem very different from President Obama, depending on what we get after jiggling the etchasketch.
If Romney talks too much about his plan to destroy Social Security, then he may be in danger of losing Florida. |
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AstroGeek
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| Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I think that Obama will probably win. I wish that whoever the Green Party selects as their candidate will win, but of course that won't happen. They'd be lucky to even get a few percent of the vote. |
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