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26 Apr 2012, 6:10 pm

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I personally think body-building is good for men who don't want to sag at an old age, but a lot of young people have good muscle mass naturally, why do they work hard to develop it even more? It's something to do, but I never really got why...


Nobody has six-pack abs or big arms naturally.

It actually depends on what line of work they do, for example, and I hope you'll excuse using the same example I've used in another thread, construction workers would be more muscular than someone working in a bank... Especially if they have an active lifestyle in addition. But not on a body-building level, because body builders do not only work on their muscles, they also eat a lot of protein etc. and that lifestyle is very calculated.


The typically won't have six pack abs or large arms. The reason sprinters and UFC fighters also lift heavy in the gym is because it's the only way to get a significant muscle gain.

i dated a rock landscaper, and he had naturally big arms and a 6-pack. he did not go to the gym or lift weights.


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26 Apr 2012, 6:41 pm

Attractive: intellect, wit, gentleness, humility. Honestly, I tend to notice people of either gender for the way they conduct themselves moreso than for their build or features. As proof of this, I met and fell in love with my current partner of almost 2 years on the internet via text only at first, and we then spoke with voice only for some time before either of us started using a webcam. Someone who seems thoughtful, curious, and somewhat awkward (other aspie-ish types or just nerds, I suppose) is always more interesting to me than someone who acts either surly-boring or bubbly-fake. BUT I suppose if I had to pick purely physical traits that interest me... eyes, mouth, and hands; and I think eyeglasses look really good.

Were I single and looking, hypothetically I would be more likely to gravitate toward a man who was androgynous in appearance rather than an athletic type; I imagine this is because I assume those men to have more in common with me and be less likely to be jerks. As a teenager I had an unfortunate habit of falling for boys/men who turned out to be gay. I guess I was being socially stupid as usual because I always seemed to be the last to know. My partner now is not very masculine and I'm not very feminine (we are about the same height, we wear similar clothing and my hair is shorter than his at the moment :) ) and neither of us would have it any differently. People say that we are a cute couple when we are together. We do not use stereotypical gender roles in our relationship or communicate those roles to me son, and our somewhat unconventional appearance reflects that attitude.

Unattractive: Morbid obesity (I don't mind anything from skinny through overweight, but not to dangerous extremes); smoking/drinking/substance use; giant muscles.

As a disclaimer, however, I do not find Robert whatever his name is from those vampire movies the slightest bit attractive. No offense to anyone who does like him, but he creeps me out and I would probably run away if I saw someone who looked like him.



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26 Apr 2012, 9:06 pm

I'd just like to point out that, as someone with an intimate knowledge of human physiology; all musculature can happen "naturally" for given instances, or definitions of "nature." If you'd like my lecture on anthropo- muscle development, send me a PM. Though, be prepared; my base is in evolutionary genetics, so you might need to take notes. :)

You can carry on, now. :)



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26 Apr 2012, 9:32 pm

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I've always wondered why girls are turned on by Robert Pattinson. The guy isn't masculine and he's quite skinny.


I, personally, prefer thinner men. I don't really know why. I'm not terribly into Pattinson. Though, I'm not terribly into vampires, either. When I gave my list of physical features, those were just preferences, they weren't things I needed. I've dated a wide range of "types", though if I collated and examined the lot, I'd have to say many of them fell into the "slimmer" category. There are a couple of men and women that I've dated that have left my colleagues perplexed... Simply, it wasn't the way the person looked, or the way they dressed, or the car they drove, but it was the way the person treated me, or how I felt around him or her.

I, for instance, have tattoos, piercings, and oddly coloured hair. You'd never guess, ever, ever, that I was the director of a research lab, or a clinician; at least, not by looking at me. Sometimes, not even by talking to me... Can you BELIEVE that Diablo III is ALMOST here?! Stars! And I tend to date men that don't mind my appearance - make up and all. I wear beanies a lot :P I have a black, Jack Skellington lab coat... My colleagues rarely approve of my choices in men, or women.

I suppose there are people that wouldn't consider me "feminine" either... I mean, what woman has TATTOOS?! Listens to Band of Skulls?! Does SCIENCE?! Climbs trees... wants to stab you in the face when you call her "Cute" :) Or, for that matter, sleeps with other women...

And don't even ask my mom what she thinks about how feminine I am... HA!

As I've read the two topics that have been posted on these two subjects, though, I've noticed a lot of sniping... and a lot of people posting defensively... a lot of non-support. It's unfortunate that a community based on people that have enough strikes against them are so ready to find the negative social markers and point them out, and hold them against each other.

Are you looking for a reason to dislike me? Cause I've got plenty! One eye is bigger than the other, and I have a hair that likes to grow right next to my left nipple (I pluck the bugger every second Wednesday!). I'm a clinician that works with incredible people with ...issues, and I persistently try to help people understand the psychological world (AKA: I'm just another know it all!). I can be snarky as hell, I make jokes at everything, I laugh, I get emotional, and apparently I say HA! a lot! I also have a nasty habit of correcting people! I HATE to wear shoes, and I don't wear them most places - including my lab. I'm not wearing them NOW. Oh, and you know what REALLY ticks people off? I'm VERBOSE :P

So! While you folks continue to fight, argue, find reasons to be better than, attack, and defend, I'm going to go find the place where we're ALL different, and yet have something in common - a place where we're encouraged to support each other, and build each other up, and emphasize our strengths, and highlight out successes.

When you lovely people get done flashing half-naked people at each other, and arguing over .01% of my freakin' hip ratio, I'll be on the other planet... come have a cuppa with me - we'll have a chat about something important, yanno, like ...you :)

Righto! Sorry for interrupting... have at it!



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26 Apr 2012, 10:12 pm

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If you're sensative to BO I do not recommend you attend a metal concert :twisted:, because there will be much sweat, B.O possibly the smell of beer or mayben even cannabis.


Don't worry, I am just as sensitive to noise and crowds as I am to smell. I don't want listen to my music anywhere but in the quiet of my house. With the volume turned down. :lol:



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27 Apr 2012, 5:58 am

hyperlexian wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Bun wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Bun wrote:
I personally think body-building is good for men who don't want to sag at an old age, but a lot of young people have good muscle mass naturally, why do they work hard to develop it even more? It's something to do, but I never really got why...


Nobody has six-pack abs or big arms naturally.

It actually depends on what line of work they do, for example, and I hope you'll excuse using the same example I've used in another thread, construction workers would be more muscular than someone working in a bank... Especially if they have an active lifestyle in addition. But not on a body-building level, because body builders do not only work on their muscles, they also eat a lot of protein etc. and that lifestyle is very calculated.


The typically won't have six pack abs or large arms. The reason sprinters and UFC fighters also lift heavy in the gym is because it's the only way to get a significant muscle gain.

i dated a rock landscaper, and he had naturally big arms and a 6-pack. he did not go to the gym or lift weights.


Only 3% of the population have arms bigger than 16" and genuine six-pack (more than just the contours) abs typically require a bodyfat percentage of 8 and large abdominal muscles, typically requiring at least six months of continuous deadlifting. I somehow doubt that.



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27 Apr 2012, 6:19 am

Kurgan wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Bun wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Bun wrote:
I personally think body-building is good for men who don't want to sag at an old age, but a lot of young people have good muscle mass naturally, why do they work hard to develop it even more? It's something to do, but I never really got why...


Nobody has six-pack abs or big arms naturally.

It actually depends on what line of work they do, for example, and I hope you'll excuse using the same example I've used in another thread, construction workers would be more muscular than someone working in a bank... Especially if they have an active lifestyle in addition. But not on a body-building level, because body builders do not only work on their muscles, they also eat a lot of protein etc. and that lifestyle is very calculated.


The typically won't have six pack abs or large arms. The reason sprinters and UFC fighters also lift heavy in the gym is because it's the only way to get a significant muscle gain.

i dated a rock landscaper, and he had naturally big arms and a 6-pack. he did not go to the gym or lift weights.


Only 3% of the population have arms bigger than 16" and genuine six-pack (more than just the contours) abs typically require a bodyfat percentage of 8 and large abdominal muscles, typically requiring at least six months of continuous deadlifting. I somehow doubt that.


citations?


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27 Apr 2012, 12:39 pm

Attractive - doing what you say you're going to do. I know circumstances change, but I like to be able to rely on someone's word.

Unattractive - deceitfulness.



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27 Apr 2012, 3:32 pm

Kurgan wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Bun wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Bun wrote:
I personally think body-building is good for men who don't want to sag at an old age, but a lot of young people have good muscle mass naturally, why do they work hard to develop it even more? It's something to do, but I never really got why...


Nobody has six-pack abs or big arms naturally.

It actually depends on what line of work they do, for example, and I hope you'll excuse using the same example I've used in another thread, construction workers would be more muscular than someone working in a bank... Especially if they have an active lifestyle in addition. But not on a body-building level, because body builders do not only work on their muscles, they also eat a lot of protein etc. and that lifestyle is very calculated.


The typically won't have six pack abs or large arms. The reason sprinters and UFC fighters also lift heavy in the gym is because it's the only way to get a significant muscle gain.

i dated a rock landscaper, and he had naturally big arms and a 6-pack. he did not go to the gym or lift weights.


Only 3% of the population have arms bigger than 16" and genuine six-pack (more than just the contours) abs typically require a bodyfat percentage of 8 and large abdominal muscles, typically requiring at least six months of continuous deadlifting. I somehow doubt that.

i didn't measure his biceps. they were large, definitely. and he had a 6-pack. he obtained it naturally from work. he was lifting heavy stuff all day. interesting that your best argument is to imply that there is an untruth from either me or the man. :lol:


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27 Apr 2012, 3:38 pm

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unattractive
- skinny
- bald with a beard, either is fine alone but not together
- clean cut, male model types
- hardcore body builder types
- moustaches
- acne
- bad teeth
- nose hair
- more than 1 or 2 tattoos


I think you have just described about everything that is unattractive about me.

I also have quite a lot of facial hair and I have to admit that so many women just don't find men with a lot of facial hair attractive.

Excessive facial hair does not look good on men especially on those men who also wear glasses in addition to having facial hair. Also some women may be allergic to facial hair so that could explain why they prefer men without it.

Also Wikipedia says that men without facial hair are more attractive to women than men with a lot of facial hair.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_attractiveness

Wikipedia also says that men with straight Caucasian hair are more attractive to women than men with kinky "Afro" hair and I have to say that I agree with Wikipedia on this.

I also have visible black dots (hyperpigmentation) on my face which I think is also not so attractive. I think the skin should look clean, smooth and homogenous.

I would do everything just to improve my facial skin, trim my nose hair and get rid of my excessive facial hair if only I had the money for this but unfortuntely I just do not have the money for this.



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27 Apr 2012, 4:11 pm

DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Bun wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Bun wrote:
I personally think body-building is good for men who don't want to sag at an old age, but a lot of young people have good muscle mass naturally, why do they work hard to develop it even more? It's something to do, but I never really got why...


Nobody has six-pack abs or big arms naturally.

It actually depends on what line of work they do, for example, and I hope you'll excuse using the same example I've used in another thread, construction workers would be more muscular than someone working in a bank... Especially if they have an active lifestyle in addition. But not on a body-building level, because body builders do not only work on their muscles, they also eat a lot of protein etc. and that lifestyle is very calculated.


The typically won't have six pack abs or large arms. The reason sprinters and UFC fighters also lift heavy in the gym is because it's the only way to get a significant muscle gain.

i dated a rock landscaper, and he had naturally big arms and a 6-pack. he did not go to the gym or lift weights.


Only 3% of the population have arms bigger than 16" and genuine six-pack (more than just the contours) abs typically require a bodyfat percentage of 8 and large abdominal muscles, typically requiring at least six months of continuous deadlifting. I somehow doubt that.


citations?


Here you go:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/11986 ... ntage-abs/

8% is the mean.

In rare cases, some men have six pack abs at 10% body fat and in extreme cases even at 12%. Then again, some don't have visible abs before 6% body fat and some may even go as far as having 4% body fat, still having stubborn fat covering their lower abs.

Couldn't retrieve the one about 16" arms, but here's another one to proove my point:
http://www.elitefeet.com/are-you-an-average-man



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27 Apr 2012, 4:16 pm

attractive but not a must have - toned body, hair in manly places, height+, deep voice
attractive and a must have - good smell

unattractive but not a deal-breaker - baldness/thinning hair, shorter than me or taller than 190cm, squeaky voice, certain speech impairments (not stutter though - I quite like it :P), bad fashion sense
unattractive and a deal breaker - overweight, long hair, unpleasant smell

also attractive - general Arab Spring revolutionary attire. I'm waiting for the pics, Boo. call me ;) :heart:

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27 Apr 2012, 4:37 pm

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I'm waiting for the pics, Boo. call me ;) :heart:

:lol:



No.

You're not getting pics from me.



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27 Apr 2012, 11:27 pm

Tom5 wrote:
nomadder wrote:
unattractive
- skinny
- bald with a beard, either is fine alone but not together
- clean cut, male model types
- hardcore body builder types
- moustaches
- acne
- bad teeth
- nose hair
- more than 1 or 2 tattoos


I think you have just described about everything that is unattractive about me.

I also have quite a lot of facial hair and I have to admit that so many women just don't find men with a lot of facial hair attractive.

Excessive facial hair does not look good on men especially on those men who also wear glasses in addition to having facial hair. Also some women may be allergic to facial hair so that could explain why they prefer men without it.

Also Wikipedia says that men without facial hair are more attractive to women than men with a lot of facial hair.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_attractiveness

Wikipedia also says that men with straight Caucasian hair are more attractive to women than men with kinky "Afro" hair and I have to say that I agree with Wikipedia on this.

I also have visible black dots (hyperpigmentation) on my face which I think is also not so attractive. I think the skin should look clean, smooth and homogenous.

I would do everything just to improve my facial skin, trim my nose hair and get rid of my excessive facial hair if only I had the money for this but unfortuntely I just do not have the money for this.


And yet I have dated men with all the features I listed as unattractive. As most women are saying here, the physical features are rarely deal breakers.


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28 Apr 2012, 1:01 am

Attractive features in a man to me is.

1. Nice Eyes.
2. A strong Jaw.
3. A Cute Smile.
4. Tattoos On A Guy Is Hot.
5. Muscles.


Unattractive features in a man to me is.

1. Bad Teeth.
2. Shay Hair.
3. Bad Posture.
4. Bald Guys.
5. Non Muscular Guys.



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28 Apr 2012, 6:11 pm

nomadder wrote:
Tom5 wrote:
nomadder wrote:
unattractive
- skinny
- bald with a beard, either is fine alone but not together
- clean cut, male model types
- hardcore body builder types
- moustaches
- acne
- bad teeth
- nose hair
- more than 1 or 2 tattoos


I think you have just described about everything that is unattractive about me.

I also have quite a lot of facial hair and I have to admit that so many women just don't find men with a lot of facial hair attractive.

Excessive facial hair does not look good on men especially on those men who also wear glasses in addition to having facial hair. Also some women may be allergic to facial hair so that could explain why they prefer men without it.

Also Wikipedia says that men without facial hair are more attractive to women than men with a lot of facial hair.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_attractiveness

Wikipedia also says that men with straight Caucasian hair are more attractive to women than men with kinky "Afro" hair and I have to say that I agree with Wikipedia on this.

I also have visible black dots (hyperpigmentation) on my face which I think is also not so attractive. I think the skin should look clean, smooth and homogenous.

I would do everything just to improve my facial skin, trim my nose hair and get rid of my excessive facial hair if only I had the money for this but unfortuntely I just do not have the money for this.


And yet I have dated men with all the features I listed as unattractive. As most women are saying here, the physical features are rarely deal breakers.


You... (sorry for this blunt calling --->) ...you , women, often go for the opposite of what you claim to go for lol