Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:48 am Post subject: Re: Being an aspie or mentally ill must be hell in Japan
[quote="Max000"]
CaptainTrips222 wrote:
Max000 wrote:
CaptainTrips222 wrote:
Who do you think makes all of these Japanese video games and anime programs?
What the hell does that have to do with anything?
And I've heard stories about what happens to people who don't fit in in Japan. They may not be hyper social, but you still have to follow neurotypical norms, right? And forget dealing with being mentally ill and successful.
I haven't been there, and I know you have, but I understand some things about their culture, and it would be tough not to be able to match social cues.
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:42 pm Post subject:
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IdahoRose - From what I've heard (and I could be wrong), in Japan mental illnesses are thought to be the parent's/family's problem/responsibility, not society's, so many mentally ill Japanese people do not seek professional help out of fear of embarrassing their families. It's probably a big contributing factor to the hikikomori (basically extreme recluses) problem, as well as the aforementioned skyrocketing suicide rates.
Problem is that the family doesn't do anything about it. So they're willing to wait until it's too late. When I mean too late, I mean the person commits suicide. Because people with mental illnesses are expected to endure it and suffer for their families, and enjoy being miserable. If they can't stand it anymore, they commit suicide. It's as if they want people to die, but they don't tell you about it.
The real question I should ask is how well are the psychological/mental health services in Japan for depression?
The sad truth is that there is little information I know of about Asperger's in Japan or in East Asian countries.
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:34 am Post subject:
I think there is some awareness . _________________ Your Aspie score is 193 of 200
Your neurotypical score is 40 of 200
You are very likely an aspie
No matter where I go I will always be a Gaijin even at home. Like Anime? http://www.anime44.com/anime-list
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: Being an aspie or mentally ill must be hell in Japan
[quote="CaptainTrips222"]
Max000 wrote:
CaptainTrips222 wrote:
Who do you think makes all of these Japanese video games and anime programs?
What the hell does that have to do with anything?
And I've heard stories about what happens to people who don't fit in in Japan. They may not be hyper social, but you still have to follow neurotypical norms, right? And forget dealing with being mentally ill and successful.
I haven't been there, and I know you have, but I understand some things about their culture, and it would be tough not to be able to match social cues.
I've never been though thats what I was thinking _________________ Theirs a subset of America, adult males who are forgoing ambition ,sex , money ,love ,adventure to sit in a darkened rooms mastering video games - Suicide Bob
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:32 am Post subject:
meggy52 wrote:
Eww suicide is an icky topic!!
Well it exists, and therefore should be discussed. _________________ It's like alice in wonderland except, my names not alice and this is the real world not a dream.
Back in the Feudal days, their "police" force committed suicide over practically...anything if it broke honor (and did it with a smile); there was a big list of "honorable ways" too.
"Culture", or perhaps something in the seafood. Note that Japan has the highest incidence of autism in the world. _________________ Just a simple man trying to survive (who's asocial and doesn't accept PMs).
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:01 am Post subject:
Some aspies in Japan make it fine but most fold under pressure and become Hikikomori. A large portion of Hikikomori are on the spectrum but it can happen to NTs as well.
_________________ Your Aspie score is 193 of 200
Your neurotypical score is 40 of 200
You are very likely an aspie
No matter where I go I will always be a Gaijin even at home. Like Anime? http://www.anime44.com/anime-list
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:11 am Post subject:
This does open my eyes. I am of Korean origin, and am grateful to have been raised in North America.... or else I would not have my upbeat attitude that has kept me going all these years. _________________ Good day, Los Angeles......
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:55 pm Post subject:
Dillogic wrote:
Suicide in Japan ain't new.
Back in the Feudal days, their "police" force committed suicide over practically...anything if it broke honor (and did it with a smile); there was a big list of "honorable ways" too.
"Culture", or perhaps something in the seafood. Note that Japan has the highest incidence of autism in the world.
Indeed. The reason Japan's suicide rate is so high is because Japanese culture has historically considered suicide an honorable way to atone for one's failures, whereas most of the rest of the world views suicide as a dishonorable death; the path taken by someone refusing to atone for one's failures.
The guy who created pokemon has AS
I believe that the culture itself, with it's history of serious honour, is the reason for such high suicide rates. Not the having of a mental illness. The honour and hard working side of the culture is what is creating the depression that causes so many to "reclaim their honour through death". It's a very tricky thing to discuss about without being incredibly indepth. So much to take into account.
On a plus side, living in a nice, quiet little village/town, as opposed to tokyo or something, would be fantastic to me!! I had a dream of being a yamabushi (mountain warrior/priest) the other night. I didn't want to wake up!! :')
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