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rabbittss
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That is the pre-req to the first one you posted, I'd have to do this one first, then the other one, and theres no way for me to get them both done before Registration for fall semester let alone pay for them..
I think I've got it figured out with BYU that they have no pre- requisite but I've sent them an Email just to be sure, I'll call them tommorow also and ask. It's expensive, twice what I would pay for a normal class, but still not as expensive as some schools in my state.. |
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MeshugenahMama
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| rabbittss wrote: |
I think I've got it figured out with BYU that they have no pre- requisite but I've sent them an Email just to be sure, I'll call them tommorow also and ask. It's expensive, twice what I would pay for a normal class, but still not as expensive as some schools in my state.. |
Good luck! I hope it works out! As far as the expense-some times you just gotta do what you gotta do, and hope it all works out. |
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rabbittss
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| MeshugenahMama wrote: | | rabbittss wrote: |
I think I've got it figured out with BYU that they have no pre- requisite but I've sent them an Email just to be sure, I'll call them tommorow also and ask. It's expensive, twice what I would pay for a normal class, but still not as expensive as some schools in my state.. |
Good luck! I hope it works out! As far as the expense-some times you just gotta do what you gotta do, and hope it all works out. |
yes exactly.
I can hopefully finish the class in about 6 weeks and get my transcript sent to my school before fall registration starts.. |
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rabbittss
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well just found out from them that in order to take their college algebra class I have to pass a pre-req which is another 600 dollars.. I don't have it... or the time to take it.. so I'm now out of options.
I'm just going to go and withdraw from school. The world obviously needs another wage slave more than a college degree holder and has decided to pick me to fulfill that task. |
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MeshugenahMama
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Se La Vie....
I didn't finally finish my BA until I was 37. |
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rabbittss
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| MeshugenahMama wrote: | Se La Vie....
I didn't finally finish my BA until I was 37. |
See thing is, I'll never finish mine,because there are no schools that will let me in without math and none of the online schools will let me just take math, and I am not re-taking remedial math and risking getting kicked out of school for a year. At least this way it's my choice not the school systems choice. |
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| rabbittss wrote: | 0097 and 0098, though some schools lump them together as 0099. Basically it's review of all the stuff from about 9th-12th grade math classes.. From Pre-Algebra to highschool Algebra, geometry and trig concepts.
and I'm in Georgia. the school I'm at would accept Quantative Reasoning which is for "non Math Majors" but most 4 year schools won't accept that as a transfer credit so it leaves me with no alternative but to take algebra instead. |
Ok I looked up the 0097 and 0098 and it sounds to me like you're doing prep courses. That is, these are not math classes that count towards your major or towards the AA. Those classes are obligatory for those who scored very low in math in the SAT or could not score high enough on the college's own entry exams to enter into college level math classes. Once you finish those you would need to take one or two college level math courses to be able to receive the AA.
Georgia colleges i looked up all require two college level math classes to graduate with an AA.
If this is the 'remedial' classes you're taking then you are literally running up against the bureaucratic wall at all levels. At the national level all colleges and universities require at least one college level math and you're not passing the courses that lead to it. At the state and individual college level they all require again at least one college level math.
There is no way around it. Even people with 'math disabilities' like dyscalcula must pass this requirement.
The only advice I can give you is to take one remedial class per semester and really,really focus on passing it. It may extend your educational plans but its better than not finishing or dropping out. Remember, after these you still need to pass two college level math classes... but they are much easier than the remedials since they dont dump 4 years of high school math worth on you at once but you still need to study hard for them. |
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I'm kind of curious what I'm in for. So far I've setup a modest Microsoft Networking Certification and it reads like all I need is to finish Introductory/Intermediate Algebra.
But...... suppose I decide to expand my program to an Associates Degree in Computers? Computer Security for example? Would that require Geometry or Trig or something?
Also I don't know anything about this Exit Exam I'm reading about in here.  Do you always have to take that? |
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Dantac
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exit exam is if you're taking those remedial courses. You must pass the class with a C or better and get an 80 or better on the 'final' exam of the class.
At least thats how it was in my college.
In your case video, if you have a math score high enough in the sats or college entry exam to enter directly into college level math then you dont have to worry about an exit exam.
As far as what maths youd need to take for the associates youd need to talk to your college about that. Im almost certain you do need to take the same # of college level math classes as a bachelors degree because its a general education requirement and the college cannot grant a degree unless you complete that. |
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rabbittss
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| Dantac wrote: | | rabbittss wrote: | 0097 and 0098, though some schools lump them together as 0099. Basically it's review of all the stuff from about 9th-12th grade math classes.. From Pre-Algebra to highschool Algebra, geometry and trig concepts.
and I'm in Georgia. the school I'm at would accept Quantative Reasoning which is for "non Math Majors" but most 4 year schools won't accept that as a transfer credit so it leaves me with no alternative but to take algebra instead. |
Ok I looked up the 0097 and 0098 and it sounds to me like you're doing prep courses. That is, these are not math classes that count towards your major or towards the AA. Those classes are obligatory for those who scored very low in math in the SAT or could not score high enough on the college's own entry exams to enter into college level math classes. Once you finish those you would need to take one or two college level math courses to be able to receive the AA.
Georgia colleges i looked up all require two college level math classes to graduate with an AA.
If this is the 'remedial' classes you're taking then you are literally running up against the bureaucratic wall at all levels. At the national level all colleges and universities require at least one college level math and you're not passing the courses that lead to it. At the state and individual college level they all require again at least one college level math.
There is no way around it. Even people with 'math disabilities' like dyscalcula must pass this requirement.
The only advice I can give you is to take one remedial class per semester and really,really focus on passing it. It may extend your educational plans but its better than not finishing or dropping out. Remember, after these you still need to pass two college level math classes... but they are much easier than the remedials since they dont dump 4 years of high school math worth on you at once but you still need to study hard for them. |
Unfortunately you understand the problem exactly correctly. I'm following my only option, I'm dropping out of school. It's the only answer to this problem. Unfortunately I cannot take just the math each semester, I only have 1 'Attempt' left and if I fail the compass again I get kicked out of school for an entire year. it used to be 3 years! but if I'm out of school for a year I never intend to go back. I don't restart abandoned projects.
Unfortunately the government would rather have me be a low level wage slave than a History major who can't do math. But thats typical. Now on the other hand, if I played football, the school would bend over backwards to make sure I got to keep playing. But since I'm only a straight A academic student, well.. f**k me right? |
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| Dantac wrote: | exit exam is if you're taking those remedial courses. You must pass the class with a C or better and get an 80 or better on the 'final' exam of the class.
At least thats how it was in my college.
In your case video, if you have a math score high enough in the sats or college entry exam to enter directly into college level math then you dont have to worry about an exit exam.
As far as what maths youd need to take for the associates youd need to talk to your college about that. Im almost certain you do need to take the same # of college level math classes as a bachelors degree because its a general education requirement and the college cannot grant a degree unless you complete that. |
Hmm... I got an A in my pre-algebra but I'm at a high C+ in regular Algebra. I wonder if I can at least get that to a B if it will affect the need for a further exit exam. Either way I want to do tutoring on Monday and review to get my grade up.
I want a career change really badly and want to get through this program. |
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Yeah, that's math for you. It will ruin anything. I've always hated it and if I were a superhero it would be one of my archenemies.
Seriously though, I'm terrible at it but was able to cram enough of it into my head to pass it in school and then promptly forgot it.
One little trick for doing that is to repeat what you want to memorize 16 times. Write down the formula or whatever it is you need to learn, 16 times. Write out what it's used for or however you explain it to yourself 16 times on a piece of paper. Do that for everything you need for the test, every night starting about a week before. I managed to pass without really understanding it by doing that. It worked for me, it might work for you, I hope it does.
I wish you luck.
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| OliveOilMom wrote: | Yeah, that's math for you. It will ruin anything. I've always hated it and if I were a superhero it would be one of my archenemies.
Seriously though, I'm terrible at it but was able to cram enough of it into my head to pass it in school and then promptly forgot it.
One little trick for doing that is to repeat what you want to memorize 16 times. Write down the formula or whatever it is you need to learn, 16 times. Write out what it's used for or however you explain it to yourself 16 times on a piece of paper. Do that for everything you need for the test, every night starting about a week before. I managed to pass without really understanding it by doing that. It worked for me, it might work for you, I hope it does.
I wish you luck. |
I appreciate it, but I've already given up my hope of being a college graduate. Obviously I'm just to stupid to manage, it's what the school seems to think anyway, and since they only care about the goddamn math grade I'm afraid I have to agree with them. Unfortunately I've not managed to find a single school anywhere in the US that doesn't require some sort of MATH class to graduate and every one has a placement test.
To be honest with you that's the most insulting part of it. if I want to throw my money away on a class, I should be allowed to do so, whether i pass or fail should be no nevermind to the school. if I want to take College Algebra 100 times until I pass it that should be my prerogative. Honestly, I can't wait till private companies run all the schools out of business. |
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Dantac
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Unfortunately you understand the problem exactly correctly. I'm following my only option, I'm dropping out of school. It's the only answer to this problem. Unfortunately I cannot take just the math each semester, I only have 1 'Attempt' left and if I fail the compass again I get kicked out of school for an entire year. it used to be 3 years! but if I'm out of school for a year I never intend to go back. I don't restart abandoned projects. |
There is another option...one that I see too many people use to get past this: Enroll in different colleges for the maths then transfer the passed credits to whatever institution you intend to graduate from.
You may have 1 attempt left in your current college...but other colleges in the area don't know that nor is it their business to know. Register for their remedial courses there, one class per semester, pass it and move on. Be sure to find out if your current college accepts those remedial transfer credits before taking them though.. some colleges just love to be jackasses. |
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