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AlexandertheSolitary
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Thank you Fedaykin for sharing this information about John Milton. I was acquainted with some (for example dictating later works to his daughters during his blindness - didn't they read to him as well?) but not all. You may be onto something here.
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venuse
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well i know ive bad problems with making the speech in one of my attempted books sound right. finally lost interest in writing it because i couldnt find my writing style and got frustraited at not being able to portraying what was in my mind into written word. not to mention the book was getting alittle too perverted for my tastes hehe. although, i did get about 4 and half chapters written, or about 43 pages. ive had thoughts about going back and trying to rewrite it but can get myself motivated to do so.
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hyperbolic
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I'm starting to think now, who says that social interaction in a book has to match the NT-spoken word or even resemble dialog written by NTs? My college literature experience has involved an Honors class where we looked at Lacanism, which among other things, exposes all works of literature through investigating their visible structures. Visible structure can take many forms. But what if this isn't just restricted to literary analysis? In leisurely reading, I have noticed myself adapting my mentality while reading books (since I could read) to respond in a certain way to and understand a certain author's writing style, both the dialog parts of it and the more prosy parts. John Grisham and Scott Turow, for example, write about many of the same kinds of subjects but in a very different way.
So, in light of this kind of adaptation of mentality that occurs when reading anything written that has a visibile structure--and, I might add, depth--maybe writers who have Asperger's should write as the feel best, and let the reader, neurotypical or not, sort out the structure on his or her own. |
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SuPaStAr
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Age: 17
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Location: Birmingham UK
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I write often, i've been writing since 7 and i get better each time i pick up the pen.
i also love poetry.
i've read books for years sometimes constantly only stopping when ive read the book
practice makes perfect, get writing and one day i'll be reading your books.
i do a rough copy- 100pages
then refine it further to 200 pages
from there i write it up in neat- 250pages
then i type it up again refining it-300pages
and then i finish it- 350pages.
i have too many battles and even my description is violent.
but i read a lot of books about war and even my fantasy novels are very violent so it comes across in my style.
Even the music i listen to is realist, and goes beyond social boundaries
opening my mind making me a better writer, discovering new words.
hip hop has abad name cus of those rappers talking bout guns and drugs etc
the stuff i listen to is rap. but its completely different to anything on the uk hip hop scene.
iv posted one of the songs' lyrics on the "post your fav lyrics" thread is you wish to know what i mean. the lyrics are deep and will get you thinking which is perfect for inspiration. |
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Chuchulainn
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Location: USA
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Aspies can be just as good at writing (and better) than neurotypicals. My aunt is a published author with Random House. She has a friend who is a World Fantasy Award-winning author with Tor Books. I sent him my book and he praised it, said he enjoyed reading it and that "I have what it takes to be a published writer"; his suggestions had nothing to do with dialogue, emotion, or robotic speech, only technical matters of smoothing the organization of my novel (which, I admit, was quite rough). I revised it and await his response.
Take heart! Aspergers suffer no impediment to writing fiction. We *gain* verbal understanding of sentence structure and correct word usage.  |
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Cyneth
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| The thing with me is that I almost never read fiction. It has always been very challenging keeping the different characters straight in my mind. Much easier in film or TV when you have more cues to go on. I rather read nonfiction. But part of me really wants to write fiction, and when you control the story yourself, I think that wouldn't be an issue....but I have worried about the challenge of creating dialogue and 3-dimensional personalities which I think would be quite difficult for me, but I think it is not necessarily impossible. I do have some rather exciting ideas for a story, partly deriving from one of my interests. |
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Chris72
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| Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject: Art, Writing, and Music |
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My daughter is aspie, she sometimes has difficulty explaining (or I do understanding) a message she wants to get across. This seems to be a challenge for her. The thing is to know her is such a treat and I really cant wait to hear the next brilliant origional thought that comes out of her mouth. Once I understand what she means Im usaully amazed. So the challenge is not to try to create an average or normal charachter but to create charachters that you can identify with. Explaining the thought process is critical as the reader will love the intricasies of charachters that you have the unique perspective to create. You can either look at being a writer with aspergers as a handicap or as an asset.
BTW The greatest writing was never reading for the masses. |
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Sand
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I have written lot of poetry and quite a a few articles for an on line magazine but real writing of fiction eludes me as I find difficulty putting myself into the minds of characters. I frankly do not seem to have the emotional outlook of other people and that brings difficulties. |
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lastcrazyhorn
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Just because I personally don't do well socially doesn't mean that I don't understand the rules. I just find it impossible to follow them most of the time.
I've written two novels in the past year and let a few online friends read them. Everyone who has responded was impressed by them and enjoyed the stories. So, cool.
Course, the first book is about a boy who turns into a wall . . . hmm. 
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Sepulchrave
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Location: St. Louis
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| Oddly enough, I think I discovered Asperger's Syndrome after having written a semi-autobiographical short story about a socially retarded boy named Asper who can't ride a bike. I had originally named him after Hans Asper, a Swiss painter, and I'm not sure if I had read something about AS somewhere and forgotten it or if it's a huge coincidence. |
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gismo
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| Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Aspie authors writing social interaction |
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| hyperbolic wrote: | I have written some science fiction stories before, ranging from short stories to attempts at a novel. Once, I left a couple of my stories on a table in my dorm commons room to see if anyone would say something to me about them. No one did respond, so I can either believe no one read them or believe that they were terrible and those who may have read them didn't want to tell me that. Though school, work, and even my hours spent daily on WP have deterred me from starting any new writings of purely self-interest (except for one, a fictional treatise on the history of an mid-Atlantic island nation), I have considered that in the future, after I finish my computer science Bachelor's degree, I might write science fiction as a career. I would want to "test the waters" before jumping into science fiction writing, of course. One of my concerns about going into writing as a career, that is, with the intent to make money off of stories that are popular, is the fact that in most cases individuals with Asperger's Syndrome have difficulty in social interaction and, although it is by no means a requirement of social interaction that there be social interaction between or among any of the human characters, in much of the popular fiction today by such authors as John Gresham, David Brown, Nora Roberts, Stephen King, especially, and etc., it does play a very important role.
A question I have for you all is do you think that someone with Asperger's Syndrome can become a successful author even with his difficulties in social interaction, which may be reflected in his writing, especially in the dialogue?
Another question: Does anyone know of any successful writers who have or have been suspected to have Asperger's Syndrome?
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I'd like to see one of your Sci-fi short stories, I'm a big fan of Sci Fi
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MsBehaviour
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Location: Titirangi, New Zealand
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I've loved writing ever since I was little, used to work for a magazine and am now a columnist for the Big Idea (a creative community in New Zealand). I find mindmaps really useful for organising structure and planning: http://www.thebigidea.co.nz/article.php?sid=4580
I've also written a column on Indie Authors and self publishing: http://www.thebigidea.co.nz/article.php?sid=4817
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Jaded
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I have very little problem writing dialogue. I've watched too much TV and spent too many years listening to others dialogue for that 
It took me a total of 2 months to write the book I'm currently editing. That was 2 years ago. I refuse to send it anywhere to anyone until I'm 110% satisfied with it.
I realize this is self-loathing behavior since I'm inclined to dissatisfaction with everything but *shrug* |
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KBABZ
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Age: 18
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Location: Middle Earth. Er, I mean Wellywood. Wait, Wellington.
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| MsBehaviour wrote: | | I've loved writing ever since I was little, used to work for a magazine and am now a columnist for the Big Idea (a creative community in New Zealand) |
Ooo! Was it in Wellington??
I like Kipo in my story because of course, being Aspie, she finds it difficult to interact with others in the normal way (this is once she properly notices that she's different from everybody). She speaks using words such as do not, can not, I am, as opposed to don't, can't and I'm. She also uses unorthodox words in what she says. So instead of saying 'I don't think he'll get the ball in the hoop' she'll say 'I do not feel that he will be able to make the basketball to fall inside the basketball hoop'. Most other sentences will be much more articulate with assume, predict, consider and such getting into the mix.
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