Tyazii
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| I agree with you. But I'd like to point out that "race" is a myth. There is more difference between me and the average person, than there is between all of the "races" of people. |
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Venger
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| The term "ethnic group" is more accurate. A different race sounds like an alien from another planet. |
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soutthpaw
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Maybe a sub-culture bound by common experiences, similarities, interests, thought processes. or we could just call it Autistic Fandom  .. definitely not a club cuz we can't just "leave" it whenever we want.
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wokndead
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| soutthpaw wrote: | | Maybe a sub-culture bound by common experiences, similarities, interests, thought processes. or we could just call it Autistic Fandom .. definitely not a club cuz we can't just "leave" it whenever we want. |
Exactly.
"Forget this club, you guys, I'm out. Oh... right... nevermind. I'm still here..."
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League_Girl
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Sora wrote: | | League_Girl wrote: | | People who have an IQ in the 71-84 range are called slow learners and its not even considered a disability nor do they qualify for special ed. teachers don't even have to give them accommodations because there is no law to protect them. So they are left to struggle through life and school. I think it should be a disability and it sucks to fall through the cracks. But yet they ca still have a learning disability such as dyslexia or still have other disabilities like autism. Then they would qualify for help. |
That's such an extreme. We have it the other way round which is probably just as extreme.
In Germany, students with an IQ somewhere in that range are automatically considered special ed and put into special schools either for the "learning disabled" or schools for people with a diagnosis of mental retardation and/or with severe multiple disabilities that require 24/7 care.
It's rare for someone with such an IQ score to be accepted into regular ed (even if they worked their way up and want to graduate the lowest/easiest regular ed school form to have a chance at getting a job after school, for example) unless their IQ is unknown and/or they went under the "radar". It's not so rare that kids who happen to have their IQ tested for some reason and scored in the 85-90 range end up in special ed as well. |
I used to score in the borderline range and I still qualified for special ed because of my speech problems and other things. So it was obvious through tests I had something. When I scored an 88 at age ten (which is average), I still qualified for help and the doctor who did the report said based on my other scores in other area, I am in the average or above average range so my overall IQ score was not accurate.
| Quote: | | Quite right League Girl. It's like an autism diagnosis, there's that one point where they rule yes or no and people close enough to that measure to need help but not quite close enough are left to struggle. |
I recently heard of borderline autism and it's where the person has autistic characteristics but not enough to be on the spectrum but they have enough to struggle with it so they are treated like they have it. Mmmm. Why do these people get help but not slow learners? |
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edgewaters
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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| soutthpaw wrote: | | Maybe a sub-culture bound by common experiences, similarities, interests, thought processes. or we could just call it Autistic Fandom .. definitely not a club cuz we can't just "leave" it whenever we want. |
Damn! *tosses resignation letter in the trash* |
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Sweetleaf
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Venger wrote: | | The term "ethnic group" is more accurate. A different race sounds like an alien from another planet. |
but doesn't ethnicity indicate ones cultural background more so then their what is referred to as race? or am I thinking of another term. Also I'd say all humans are the same race in the sense that there are alien races, and in fantasy books/movies you have elves, orcs and all kinds of other 'races'.........but at the risk of being politically incorrect they aren't all the same 'species.' for instance you have cats all cats are cats, one cat is not better than another due to its species but they will be different in some ways. With humans we evolved differently based on different environments. Like there is a reason noses have different shapes...humans who evolved in the warm climate of africa did not need to develop the more narrow sharper nose of those who moved up north and had to develop that shape to breath in the cold air for instance.
So I say due to environmental conditions that certain species of people evolved in...there are differences but no ones better then anyone else, but I know sometimes people think if one says species they are also indicating their 'species' is better. Well I'm a mutt anyways just like many others. I don't really care if it's called species, race, ethnicity, differences caused by environments people developed in or any other term, just so long as no ones being a bigot about it.
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Venger
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm aware a different "species" is a better term for describing an alien. But the word race has an extreme sounding tone to it which could describe one too(i.e. "The Human Race"). |
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jonny23
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| For years I couldn't figure out where all the humans where racing to. I wanted to get a head start. |
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Quazar
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| Keeno wrote: | | Atomsk wrote: | | I totally agree with you. I also think that the whole "Autism/AS is the next step in human evolution!" thing is a bunch of garbage. |
If there is a next step in human evolution (which there will be some time) - autism and Asperger's is not it. |
who needs evolution when you have trans-humanism  |
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Sweetleaf
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Venger wrote: | | I'm aware a different "species" is a better term for describing an alien. But the word race has an extreme sounding tone to it which could describe one too(i.e. "The Human Race"). |
No I was saying species is a better word than race...for humans.
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Venger
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Sweetleaf wrote: | | Venger wrote: | | I'm aware a different "species" is a better term for describing an alien. But the word race has an extreme sounding tone to it which could describe one too(i.e. "The Human Race"). |
No I was saying species is a better word than race...for humans. |
Yes I agree. |
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Rascal77s
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Venger wrote: | | The term "ethnic group" is more accurate. |
As an added bonus it's a qualifier for ethnic cleansing. Sounds so much nicer than eugenics or genocide. |
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Sweetleaf
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Venger wrote: | | Sweetleaf wrote: | | Venger wrote: | | I'm aware a different "species" is a better term for describing an alien. But the word race has an extreme sounding tone to it which could describe one too(i.e. "The Human Race"). |
No I was saying species is a better word than race...for humans. |
Yes I agree. |
hmm may have got my terms mixed up actually though...I was thinking of the word for different types of the same animal, like different types of cats. But I don't know there are different species of cats, or if species more would refer to 'is it a dog or a cat?' Anyways trying to think of the word for different types of animals and apply that to different types of humans because to me its the same thing.
Different kinds of the same animal evolved a bit different due to environment, same thing happened with humans so it should be referred to the same in my opinion. If any of that makes sense.
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Sweetleaf
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maybe it's breed I am thinking of, but I was wondering more the term for different types of the same wild animal...not sure if people would want to be compared to domesticated animals after all.
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