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Bunders
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I don't want to seem insensitive but but I'm working on the assumption that there is nothing you can do about your neighbors when I suggest installing triple glazing / sound proofing & getting yourself some good quality noise cancelling headphones for when you're home alone and a quality Hi-Fi for when you're both at home. Then you've done all you can to minimize noise ingress and with your own choice of music you're still in a noisy environ but it's much less stressful? I find Classic FM relaxing.
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hartzofspace
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| Bunders wrote: | I don't want to seem insensitive but but I'm working on the assumption that there is nothing you can do about your neighbors when I suggest installing triple glazing / sound proofing & getting yourself some good quality noise cancelling headphones for when you're home alone and a quality Hi-Fi for when you're both at home. Then you've done all you can to minimize noise ingress and with your own choice of music you're still in a noisy environ but it's much less stressful? I find Classic FM relaxing.
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I wouldn't say insensitive. But I would like to point out that I spend most of my time in noise cancelling headphones, I am a writer, and usually spend my time writing and listening to music. If they were successful at drowning out the noise I am talking about, I probably wouldn't be posting in the Haven.
When I am subjected to intense bass music which is not so much a sound but a vibration, and which rattles windows and makes the floors throb, it is impossible for me to tune it out. There aren't any headphones or earplugs that can't take the edge off noise like this. I also have hypercusis and complex PTSD, so that magnifies sound and my reaction to sound. Also, most headphones and earplugs have no effect upon low frequency bass sounding noises; they just come right through.
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Bunders
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I used to wear my trouser pockets inside-out when I was a child because the disharmony between the sensation of the material that the pockets were made from and the material that the trousers were made from against my skin was an experience I still can't describe to this day. I was also very particular about socks as the sensation of the surplus material at the end of the toe inside the sock could easily make paying attention to anything else (and walking) impossible.
I only tell you this because... t.b.h. I'm not sure why I'm telling you that, to emphasize that I'm not unsympathetic maybe. Anyway, I see your options breakdown thusly;
A) Persuade the neighbors to turn the bass down at least at certain times of the day and / or certain days of the week. I am totally unqualified to offer advice with persuading people.
B) Advice as per previous post which I now realize is unsatisfactory.
C) Speak to your estate agent about your problems, there may be some simple changes you could make to your property yourselves, like painting the rooms a neutral colour that would raise the potential value of your property enough that you could resell at enough profit to cover the costs of moving in there in the first place.
D) Get a landscape gardener in to form hills to act as baffles to deflect low frequency sounds away from your property, Plant trees to absorb higher frequency noise. Although this would have the same side-effect risk profile as the privacy fence suggestion below.
Also "Put up a privacy fence around your property. " isn't always good advice if you're in a neighborhood watch type area. In Freakonomics an analysis of crime data was reported that indicated that the majority of house burglaries are committed somewhere between the perps house and the perps place of work. Basically if your house has something valuable looking that can be seen through a window and enough cover to break in un-noticed and has criminals passing it every day then your house is significantly more likely to be burgled. Pretty obvious really. A "privacy fence" sounds good but it provides a relative degree of "privacy" to anyone who is behind it. Home owner and burglar alike. And if someone wants to "case the joint" all they have to do is hand out a load of bogus flyers inviting people to donate some clothes or whatever to charity. The response rate will be predictably small and they'll get the chance to case lots of houses.
Anyway, good luck, I hope you're able to work something out.
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hartzofspace
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| Bunders wrote: |
A) Persuade the neighbors to turn the bass down at least at certain times of the day and / or certain days of the week. I am totally unqualified to offer advice with persuading people. |
First, thanks for your long and thoughtful reply. I really appreciate your suggestions. We are not eager to talk to neighbors because we are not good at confrontation. That's why we have made anonymous complaints to the sheriff. We were glad to hear that we were not the only ones complaining, though!
| Bunders wrote: | | B) Advice as per previous post which I now realize is unsatisfactory. |
Yes, some of it was, but thanks anyway.
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SpiritBlooms
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| hartzofspace wrote: | | Bunders wrote: |
A) Persuade the neighbors to turn the bass down at least at certain times of the day and / or certain days of the week. I am totally unqualified to offer advice with persuading people. |
First, thanks for your long and thoughtful reply. I really appreciate your suggestions. We are not eager to talk to neighbors because we are not good at confrontation. That's why we have made anonymous complaints to the sheriff. We were glad to hear that we were not the only ones complaining, though!
| Bunders wrote: | | B) Advice as per previous post which I now realize is unsatisfactory. |
Yes, some of it was, but thanks anyway. |
I wonder if anyone who's complained has been able to provide a license number. If you can get that, it might help get something done. |
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Mindsigh
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Just wanted to say that although I have no helpful suggestions, I totally sympathize with you. I'm stranded in a neighborhood that echoes to the sound of bass-boosted throbbing so much that I'm surprised none of our windows have broken. Most of the drivers of such cars are rather intimidating to me and I've encountered hostility when politely asking them to turn it down or go somewhere more public, like a parking lot, to enjoy their stereos. We put up a fence and got some dogs, so nobody cuts across my yard anymore, but when they did, it felt like a violation. Some teenage guys bought some popsicles from the ice-cream truck (another chronic source of noise pollution) and dropped the wrappers in the middle of my lawn  Also, we woke up one morning to find a bullet hole in our back windshield and our front windshield totally gone! We're in a strange situation as regards the house, long story, but we're saving our pennies to move out of state soon. |
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hartzofspace
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| SpiritBlooms wrote: | | hartzofspace wrote: | | Bunders wrote: |
A) Persuade the neighbors to turn the bass down at least at certain times of the day and / or certain days of the week. I am totally unqualified to offer advice with persuading people. |
First, thanks for your long and thoughtful reply. I really appreciate your suggestions. We are not eager to talk to neighbors because we are not good at confrontation. That's why we have made anonymous complaints to the sheriff. We were glad to hear that we were not the only ones complaining, though!
| Bunders wrote: | | B) Advice as per previous post which I now realize is unsatisfactory. |
Yes, some of it was, but thanks anyway. |
I wonder if anyone who's complained has been able to provide a license number. If you can get that, it might help get something done. |
Well, here's hopeful news! My husband spotted the loud car parked nearby, and got the license number off it. We turned that in to the sheriff, as well as the address.
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SpiritBlooms
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| hartzofspace wrote: | | SpiritBlooms wrote: | | hartzofspace wrote: | | Bunders wrote: |
A) Persuade the neighbors to turn the bass down at least at certain times of the day and / or certain days of the week. I am totally unqualified to offer advice with persuading people. |
First, thanks for your long and thoughtful reply. I really appreciate your suggestions. We are not eager to talk to neighbors because we are not good at confrontation. That's why we have made anonymous complaints to the sheriff. We were glad to hear that we were not the only ones complaining, though!
| Bunders wrote: | | B) Advice as per previous post which I now realize is unsatisfactory. |
Yes, some of it was, but thanks anyway. |
I wonder if anyone who's complained has been able to provide a license number. If you can get that, it might help get something done. |
Well, here's hopeful news! My husband spotted the loud car parked nearby, and got the license number off it. We turned that in to the sheriff, as well as the address. |
I hope that does the trick.  |
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hartzofspace
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| Mindsigh wrote: | | Just wanted to say that although I have no helpful suggestions, I totally sympathize with you. I'm stranded in a neighborhood that echoes to the sound of bass-boosted throbbing so much that I'm surprised none of our windows have broken. Most of the drivers of such cars are rather intimidating to me and I've encountered hostility when politely asking them to turn it down or go somewhere more public, like a parking lot, to enjoy their stereos. We put up a fence and got some dogs, so nobody cuts across my yard anymore, but when they did, it felt like a violation. Some teenage guys bought some popsicles from the ice-cream truck (another chronic source of noise pollution) and dropped the wrappers in the middle of my lawn Also, we woke up one morning to find a bullet hole in our back windshield and our front windshield totally gone! We're in a strange situation as regards the house, long story, but we're saving our pennies to move out of state soon. |
Wow, that is awful! I hope you get out of there very soon.
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SpiritBlooms
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| Mindsigh wrote: | | Just wanted to say that although I have no helpful suggestions, I totally sympathize with you. I'm stranded in a neighborhood that echoes to the sound of bass-boosted throbbing so much that I'm surprised none of our windows have broken. Most of the drivers of such cars are rather intimidating to me and I've encountered hostility when politely asking them to turn it down or go somewhere more public, like a parking lot, to enjoy their stereos. We put up a fence and got some dogs, so nobody cuts across my yard anymore, but when they did, it felt like a violation. Some teenage guys bought some popsicles from the ice-cream truck (another chronic source of noise pollution) and dropped the wrappers in the middle of my lawn Also, we woke up one morning to find a bullet hole in our back windshield and our front windshield totally gone! We're in a strange situation as regards the house, long story, but we're saving our pennies to move out of state soon. |
I once asked someone that I had thought up to that point was a fairly quiet neighbor, who otherwise kept to himself, to turn down his wall-vibrating music and got treated as if I was the one with the problem. Fortunately he had a house mate who got him to turn it down, and keep it down. But that was shortly after they moved in and they were problem neighbors for various reasons as long as they lived here.
All I can think is that it's something besides music they're after when they play that booming base. I don't know what it is, and I hope they get what they need from it, but it very clearly doesn't belong in a place where others are forced to hear it - and I suspect they realize that. It's, in my mind, a hostile act to begin with to play it that loud and with that distortion. A way of acting out. So yes, I'm wary of asking anyone to turn it down or even making eye contact with people who do that. |
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hartzofspace
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[quote="SpiritBlooms"] | Mindsigh wrote: | | Just wanted to say that although I have no helpful suggestions, I totally sympathize with you. I'm stranded in a neighborhood that echoes to the sound of bass-boosted throbbing so much that I'm surprised none of our windows have broken. Most of the drivers of such cars are rather intimidating to me and I've encountered hostility when politely asking them to turn it down or go somewhere more public, like a parking lot, to enjoy their stereos. We put up a fence and got some dogs, so nobody cuts across my yard anymore, but when they did, it felt like a violation. Some teenage guys bought some popsicles from the ice-cream truck (another chronic source of noise pollution) and dropped the wrappers in the middle of my lawn Also, we woke up one morning to find a bullet hole in our back windshield and our front windshield totally gone! We're in a strange situation as regards the house, long story, but we're saving our pennies to move out of state soon. |
| SpiritBlooms wrote: | | I once asked someone that I had thought up to that point was a fairly quiet neighbor, who otherwise kept to himself, to turn down his wall-vibrating music and got treated as if I was the one with the problem. Fortunately he had a house mate who got him to turn it down, and keep it down. But that was shortly after they moved in and they were problem neighbors for various reasons as long as they lived here. |
That sounds similar to this problem. When we moved here the people that the boom car guys are visiting hadn't moved here yet. So they are attracting the problem.
| SpiritBlooms wrote: | | All I can think is that it's something besides music they're after when they play that booming base. I don't know what it is, and I hope they get what they need from it, but it very clearly doesn't belong in a place where others are forced to hear it - and I suspect they realize that. It's, in my mind, a hostile act to begin with to play it that loud and with that distortion. A way of acting out. So yes, I'm wary of asking anyone to turn it down or even making eye contact with people who do that. |
Me, too. I figure if they are out of control already, I don't want to deal with their out of control attitude.
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