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29 Jun 2012, 11:49 pm

I think one of the most ignorant arguments against evolution is the old, "if we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?"
Because, NUMBSKULLS, we didn't evolve from all apes, but from one specific type!! !!
How hard is that to grasp?

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30 Jun 2012, 12:29 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
I think one of the most ignorant arguments against evolution is the old, "if we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?"
Because, NUMBSKULLS, we didn't evolve from all apes, but from one specific type!! !!
How hard is that to grasp?

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Even the statement that we evolved from monkeys is not exactly accurate. It would be more precise to say that we have a common evolutionary lineage


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30 Jun 2012, 1:29 am

Vigilans wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I think one of the most ignorant arguments against evolution is the old, "if we evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?"
Because, NUMBSKULLS, we didn't evolve from all apes, but from one specific type!! !!
How hard is that to grasp?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


Even the statement that we evolved from monkeys is not exactly accurate. It would be more precise to say that we have a common evolutionary lineage


Exactly.

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30 Jun 2012, 1:51 am

Why do people believe that a god created our world? Douglas Adams explains in less than five minutes:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kK1YgR7J0g&feature=related[/youtube]


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30 Jun 2012, 2:37 am

to put it simple the creationists have no idea what they are against and what they are saying to say that they're right.


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30 Jun 2012, 2:56 am

kill231 wrote:
to put it simple the creationists have no idea what they are against and what they are saying to say that they're right.


Rocky's Law: Atheism is a lack of belief. Creationism is a lack of knowledge. :lol:


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30 Jun 2012, 3:08 am

The funny thing is, in ancient Rome, the early Christians were referred to as atheists, as they had refused to worship the state gods.

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30 Jun 2012, 3:18 am

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The funny thing is, in ancient Rome, the early Christians were referred to as atheists, as they had refused to worship the state gods.

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I do not know whom I am paraphrasing or quoting, but here goes: "Religious believers are atheists about all gods except their own. Atheists just believe in one less god."


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30 Jun 2012, 3:30 am

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The funny thing is, in ancient Rome, the early Christians were referred to as atheists, as they had refused to worship the state gods.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer


I do not know whom I am paraphrasing or quoting, but here goes: "Religious believers are atheists about all gods except their own. Atheists just believe in one less god."


Quite true. :lol:

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30 Jun 2012, 6:20 pm

Alright, for a change of pace, here is an Islamic Creationist:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIMg1hgcOd0[/youtube]

They put even less effort into their fact checking than the Christians it seems. But at least Christian Creationists are less likely to kill you for disagreeing with them. For now.


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30 Jun 2012, 6:51 pm

I doubt humans evolved from monkeys. Most likely, humans are just another species of ape and were never actual monkeys. We evolved from some kind of algae.
But it does make you wonder. Why such diversity? Can the theory of evolution really explain why humans are humans and why other land mammals exist that are so different from us? We all live on land, so how is it there's so much variety? Theory of evolution seems too simple to explain it all. That doesn't mean God did it. Maybe there's another explanation? What if it's just something in the DNA?



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30 Jun 2012, 7:20 pm

Yes, this is 2 hours long:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Up-0E4Qetfg&feature=g-vrec[/youtube]

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30 Jun 2012, 7:26 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
I doubt humans evolved from monkeys. Most likely, humans are just another species of ape and were never actual monkeys. We evolved from some kind of algae.
But it does make you wonder. Why such diversity? Can the theory of evolution really explain why humans are humans and why other land mammals exist that are so different from us? We all live on land, so how is it there's so much variety? Theory of evolution seems too simple to explain it all. That doesn't mean God did it. Maybe there's another explanation? What if it's just something in the DNA?


There's a crapload of ways for DNA to mutate and a lot of niches to fill.


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30 Jun 2012, 7:27 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
I doubt humans evolved from monkeys. Most likely, humans are just another species of ape and were never actual monkeys. We evolved from some kind of algae.


We did not evolve from monkeys, monkeys evolved alongside us from a common ancestor.

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
But it does make you wonder. Why such diversity? Can the theory of evolution really explain why humans are humans and why other land mammals exist that are so different from us? We all live on land, so how is it there's so much variety? Theory of evolution seems too simple to explain it all. That doesn't mean God did it. Maybe there's another explanation? What if it's just something in the DNA?


The amount of variety on land pales in comparison to the oceans. Evolution does explain diversity. The only way there could be a homogenous biosphere is if every single living cell changed in the exact same way at the exact same time. This is obviously not the case. Micro and macro evolution on an unimaginably grand scale is what is responsible for the diversity of life on Earth. 99% of all the species that have lived are extinct, just to put it in perspective

It is easier to comprehend evolution when viewing life as a physical translation of genetic code

Ultimately to go delve into the origins of life is not necessarily what evolution is about, but rather how life changes over time. The origins of life are more likely to lie in the fields of chemistry and quantum physics


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30 Jun 2012, 7:31 pm

This is a video on Abiogenesis I find provides a good explanation

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6QYDdgP9eg[/youtube]


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30 Jun 2012, 8:58 pm

The fact that so many species are extinct does not support the theory of evolution.