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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks TallyMan. I thought the post I saw yesterday was suspicious and I almost posted a snarky reply then just decided to skip it. Glad we've got good Mods on this board keeping an eye out for this kind of garbage.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the correct title of the book "Launching Adult Children With Aspergers Guide " by Mark Hutten?

I see the ebook has a number of testimonials on his website saying how wonderful it is! If they are anything like the fake testimonials posted in this thread (now removed) I wonder who actually wrote them? Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanx for this info.....Must say, I was very happy with my eBook purchase re AS written by Dr Tony Attwood.....Especially the part on language development and processing issues is very good and insightfull!

Sorry you had to endure such abuse! This is sadening!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just googled Mark Hutten....Is this the same guy who has the "my aspergerchild.com" website .....I saw this guy has n degree in psychology?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that is the correct title and thank you for spotting the fake posts. I was a little uncomfortable challenging yesterday's poster but the style resembled Hutten's writing and the book is terrible.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As an Aspergers person I need to state a few things. Remember, we take things very literally. Therefore, I misunderstood what certain things meant. I have been doing extensive research to try to understand why I receive certain responses when I ask questions and ask for help.

For a long time, I did not have an understanding of the concept of what a sense of entitlement was and what American values were. Due to ignorance, I did not know that asking certain questions or asking for help and aid could imply feelings of entitlement.

I did not know that past a certain age that all of a sudden the rules changed. I did not know that past a certain age that one was supposed to figure things out on their own. I will not say this about all aspies but with myself I will say this. Unless something is blatently obvious to me or explictly told to me I do not know it. I am unaware and ignorant to it.

Mr. Hutten, I am assuming you believe in the values of hard work, indepenence and self-reliance am I correct? I will have to state that you have inconsistencies to your beliefs. Here are my questions.

1. When I went to Voc Rehab it was stated that appearance is number one when it comes to obtaining a job. This is 100% true. You state this aspergers young person can live without a haircut. If this person does not maintain their hair how does this person obtain a job at all? I assume this implies they don't need other things which would help maintain their appearance and hygeine? How do they obtain work at all? How is this not a no win situation?

2. If this young aspie adult goes on food stamps and rental assistance because he is unable to work then I have to ask how is this independence, Mr. Hutten? Now this aspie is dependent upon the state and the taxpayers. How did you ultimately solve the problem of this aspie's over-dependence? Now he will be overly-dependent on the state. Is this really about gaining this aspie independence or is it really about getting this aspie out of the parent's hair?

3. You state that this aspie can eat things such macroni and cheese, raman noodles, etc. What is the nutritional content of these things? Wouldn't this aspie be at risk for malnutrition and diseases like scurvy? Is this what you really did as a child yourself Mr Hutten?

4. If dependence is just being transfered and this aspie is a ward of the state by being on food stamps and other goverment entitlements then how is he taking care of himself at all? You acknowledge there are some who truthfully can't obtain work. If this is so and they are wards of the state, then how are they capable of independence at all? What is your rationale Mr Hutton? What are your premises that lead to this conclusion?

5. How does your advice help in any kind of way? Why isn't it the parents job to show their kids how to be independent and show their kids how to survive? Why shouldn't kids be taught how to fish? Isn't this the parent's responsibility or are parents irresponsible and have a sense of entitlement themselves? Mr. Hutten, I have to call into question your ethics, logical reasoning, your morality, and your professional conduct.


I posted this on his blog at http://www.myaspergerschild.com/2012/02/helping-your-adult-child-with-aspergers.html

Let's see if he actually responds or mods me out. How many bong hits has this guy had? How much acid has this guy had?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TallyMan wrote:
WARNING:

This book must be really bad. I've just deleted three fake member accounts and associated posts in this thread in support of this book. They were all made by the same person pretending to be three different members. It is quite possible the author made the posts here in this underhand manner to try to boost sales of his book.


I wouldn't be surprised.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.onlineparentingcoach.com/2007/04/mark-hutten-ma.html

This is the man's background. He is trying to treat the asperger child or young adult as though they are oppositional. He is seeing it as a discipline problem when it is not. Don't listen to this man. He has the boot camp mentality.

I have a bad feeling about this guy.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:22 pm    Post subject: So glad I read this forum! Reply with quote

I too am the desperate parent of an Aspie child. She is 6 years old and we struggle every minute of everyday with her behavior and anger issues. Her dad (my late husband) shot and killed himself in October of 2011. I know now that he was undiagnosed but definitely had Aspergers as well.

As I'm sure you all can imagine, having Aspergers is only the beginning of the difficulties my little Aspie faces. I was so very desperate to help her, SAVE her from herself that, I too purchased Mark Hutton's $19 eBook. I also found it to be very repetitive. When I first found his site, I immediately purchased the eBook (also largely due to all the wonderful testimonies). Just after, I sent him an email telling him my and my daughter's WHOLE story. He never even responded! I think I might have received an auto reply saying that I should read the eBook before trying to contact home personally as most of the answers to my questions would most likely be in there.

I needed (still need) IMMEDIATE help! My six year old goes around screaming that she's going to kill herself if its the last thing she does! The first time she said it, my hand popped her before I even knew what I was doing. It took the air right out o my lungs after what her father did. Our marriage fell apart because I didn't really understand Aspergers and he didn't know he had it. I suspected at some point but, by then, it was too late.

He had I in his mind (mostly because of guys that he worked with putting thoughts into his head) that I had and most likely was still cheating on him. I have NO reason to lie to ANYONE here and I can assure you all that I NEVER EVER even looked at another man besides my husband with those kinds of feelings. He was my world and I lived him so very much.

As you can see, I've witnessed what can happen when someone goes their whole life with Aspergers and it is never diagnosed. He too lost his mom to kidney failure (a result of type 2 diabetes related complications) when he was about h same age my daughter was when he died (5-7 years old). I'm so worried hat shell grow up and, because of her inability to control her emotions, literal way of thinking and, extreme anger issues, she'll think that I'm just trying to control, manipulate and ruin her life (just like he thought).

I bought tis eBook, willing to pay ANY amount necessary to get ANY type of help and I have only this to say to Mr. Mark Hutton, "You should be ashamed of yourself! You hav NO clue the power you have over ppl and the damage that power can inflict!"
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all looks like a big scam based on these two pages I found

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and

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looks like those internet scams for 'work from home, garanteed to work....bla bla bla bla" then 'all you have to do is pay us (insert some amount of money)' and remember its garanted. Except probably a lot more harmful since they are screwing around with parents of kids with AS trying to make a buck off them it seems.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's not even the worst of it. I sent an email to my daughter's school with a link to an article I had received via email then happened upon this site (totally by accident). The teachers, principles, counselor and even the special education teacher keep treating my daughter as though she has a behavioral problem. The only thing that is keeping her from being expelled is that the diagnostician finally finish her evaluations and gave her an official dx of Aspergers (after her father father past away, both my girls (I also have a 4 year old by my husband) started receiving survivor benefits which was great because I am now disabled permenantly and unable yo work except that I have to save most of the money for them because I want them to go to college and have a little something set back but the state/government counts this money against ME and discontinued their Medicaid so I couldn't afford private testing. She'll get Medicaid again now that she's officially "disabled" herself. ) and she (the diagnostician) is making them deal with her differently. But, if they read that crap and get it in their heads that it is accurate information, I'll be back at square one with them and the ONLY one that is suffering is my daughter who didn't ask for this!

I'm really mad and have half a mind to challenge this idiot and find out by what authority he provides this crap. Maybe it's time that someone stops him from continuing to inflict his ignorance on anyone else
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ilovemyaspiegirl, you are in the right place to get a lot of good information, so I hope things can improve going forward.

Some schools are great with AS, some are awful, and most of the awful ones cannot be changed. If you have a school in the middle willing to do the right thing but not always knowing what that is, you'll be OK; just educate yourself and then educate them. If you have an awful one, move your daughter if there is any way you possibly can.

We answer questions here FREE OF CHARGE and we are all just parents, plus some AS adults, who have been through many of the same things you will go through. At the top of the page we have stickies to many great reference materials and back into our own threads, as well. We have, through trial and error and our own experience, developed some protocols that I believe really do work. Some of those are making their ways into the schools, and some are just ours, but so it goes ... the whole world is still on a learning curve when it comes to ASDs.

Now that you are here, I hope you will do more than add to the negative information about this one book. I hope you will join our community, and hopefully find some answers for yourself and your beautiful child.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lovelyboy wrote:
I just googled Mark Hutten....Is this the same guy who has the "my aspergerchild.com" website .....I saw this guy has n degree in psychology?


Unfortunately, lots of people have a degree in psychology and a good number of them make those of us who are not quacks look bad (though my advanced degree is not in clinical psych).

I think people who scam desperate parents and take advantage of innocents shall rot somewhere in eternity. And my sense of justice finds this idea satisfying.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, what a creep.

The autism psychopalooza is full of creeps selling stooopid things like worthless ebooks and quack treatments.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I also find disturbing is it there is a lot of what seems to be understanding facts about autism...but with further investigation it becomes clear that's just to soften it up to lure people in. I mean one of the pages goes on about how an autistic child cannot help having a meltdown and offers what seems to be understanding.........but then there's more stuff about defiant kids and making them more obedient and it just seems to be a lot of mixed messages. It's like they threw anything in there that parents might struggle with or be frusterated with about autistic kids, kids in general and are trying to sell it as some guaranteed cure for autism and disobedient children which makes no sense at all.
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