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Num4Myranda
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AScomposer13413 wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
Num4Myranda wrote:
I CANNOT play music or record myself for someone because i just cant :\ but I play piano, and many people dont beleive me because i dont record it or play for anyone but yeah

Youtube or it doesn't exist. Wink


Psh, SoundCloud all the way!!! You don't have to worry about making a picture video to match the MP3 Razz

Also, Welcome to WrongPlanet Smile I can kinda relate to the whole not recording for some reason. IT takes a while to get used to, but as AngelRho said, once you overcome it, you'd be surprised at what you can do Wink

Im sorry, I guess i just have a fear of criticism
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Num4Myranda wrote:
AScomposer13413 wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
Num4Myranda wrote:
I CANNOT play music or record myself for someone because i just cant :\ but I play piano, and many people dont beleive me because i dont record it or play for anyone but yeah

Youtube or it doesn't exist. Wink


Psh, SoundCloud all the way!!! You don't have to worry about making a picture video to match the MP3 Razz

Also, Welcome to WrongPlanet Smile I can kinda relate to the whole not recording for some reason. IT takes a while to get used to, but as AngelRho said, once you overcome it, you'd be surprised at what you can do Wink

Im sorry, I guess i just have a fear of criticism


No need to be sorry!! Fearing criticism is very understandable. I get that feeling sometimes, which is why I have yet to release all of the works I have recorded! It'll take a lot of time to get rid of that barrier, but it is pretty liberating!!
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AngelRho
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Num4Myranda wrote:
AScomposer13413 wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
Num4Myranda wrote:
I CANNOT play music or record myself for someone because i just cant :\ but I play piano, and many people dont beleive me because i dont record it or play for anyone but yeah

Youtube or it doesn't exist. Wink


Psh, SoundCloud all the way!!! You don't have to worry about making a picture video to match the MP3 Razz

Also, Welcome to WrongPlanet Smile I can kinda relate to the whole not recording for some reason. IT takes a while to get used to, but as AngelRho said, once you overcome it, you'd be surprised at what you can do Wink

Im sorry, I guess i just have a fear of criticism

I'm probably the harshest critic on WP. But that just comes from two decades of classical study, including a teaching degree and master's in composition. So a lot of what I have to say is just me getting wound up over something I like.

What I try to be, and what I hope others here also try to be, is helpful. Criticism isn't always about how bad you suck...in fact, it shouldn't ever be. It should be about what you can do to improve. And not everyone here is exactly what we'd call a "serious musician." Most of us are into music as something fun and a creative outlet, not because we're trying for the Grammies. You'll find most of us here are more encouraging than negative.

Incidentally, I have to disagree on SoundCloud. I put stuff on SoundCloud sometimes, but there is a time limit on what you can do. Most of the time my SoundCloud stuff is just temporary. Combining mp3 or wav to video can be a little tricky, but all you have to do is take a still graphic and set the timer on your movie 'ware for the song length, then just drop the mp3/wav/etc. into the audio track. Or you can figure out how to record yourself playing with a webcam and internal mic, which seems to be what most people do.
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AScomposer13413
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AngelRho wrote:
Num4Myranda wrote:
AScomposer13413 wrote:
AngelRho wrote:
Num4Myranda wrote:
I CANNOT play music or record myself for someone because i just cant :\ but I play piano, and many people dont beleive me because i dont record it or play for anyone but yeah

Youtube or it doesn't exist. Wink


Psh, SoundCloud all the way!!! You don't have to worry about making a picture video to match the MP3 Razz

Also, Welcome to WrongPlanet Smile I can kinda relate to the whole not recording for some reason. IT takes a while to get used to, but as AngelRho said, once you overcome it, you'd be surprised at what you can do Wink

Im sorry, I guess i just have a fear of criticism

I'm probably the harshest critic on WP. But that just comes from two decades of classical study, including a teaching degree and master's in composition. So a lot of what I have to say is just me getting wound up over something I like.


How is the master's in composition?? I'm thinking it's a possibility for me, but I'm not sure of it's effect on me at the end of the day Confused

AngelRho wrote:
What I try to be, and what I hope others here also try to be, is helpful. Criticism isn't always about how bad you suck...in fact, it shouldn't ever be. It should be about what you can do to improve. And not everyone here is exactly what we'd call a "serious musician." Most of us are into music as something fun and a creative outlet, not because we're trying for the Grammies. You'll find most of us here are more encouraging than negative.

Incidentally, I have to disagree on SoundCloud. I put stuff on SoundCloud sometimes, but there is a time limit on what you can do. Most of the time my SoundCloud stuff is just temporary. Combining mp3 or wav to video can be a little tricky, but all you have to do is take a still graphic and set the timer on your movie 'ware for the song length, then just drop the mp3/wav/etc. into the audio track. Or you can figure out how to record yourself playing with a webcam and internal mic, which seems to be what most people do.


While I do see what you're saying about the time limitations of Soundcloud, in my opinion, it makes up fro that by covering the networking option much faster than Youtube. To top that off, I'm currently interested in hearing the works of my colleagues and/or from others who are in a similar boat as I am and Soundcloud's database gives the ability to look that up in a very neat and organized way. To each their own at the end of the day, though.
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AScomposer13413 wrote:
How is the master's in composition?? I'm thinking it's a possibility for me, but I'm not sure of it's effect on me at the end of the day Confused

Master's in composition was the best thing I ever did for myself. For me it was all about getting out of my familiar little corner of the world and exploring possibilities, discovering what works and what doesn't, and learning things I never knew that I never knew. The only class I did poorly in was modal counterpoint, and it was the only thing standing in my way of graduating with honors. Razz

The degree is wonderful to earn since you get to study what you WANT with a minimum of BS courses. You also will have more of your profs' attention. At Crane School (SUNY-Potsdam), I remember the profs' doors being open at all times during office hours. They loved for us to just come in and hang. You get extra instruction that way, obviously, but you also get to see the human side. Crane doesn't have a large grad school, which means you pretty much have the run of the place and access to as many undergrads as you need whenever you need them.

My fondest memories are the two years I spent there. It was a LOT of work, and it could be discouraging at times. But I'd gladly go back and do it all over again if I had to!

AScomposer13413 wrote:
While I do see what you're saying about the time limitations of Soundcloud, in my opinion, it makes up fro that by covering the networking option much faster than Youtube. To top that off, I'm currently interested in hearing the works of my colleagues and/or from others who are in a similar boat as I am and Soundcloud's database gives the ability to look that up in a very neat and organized way. To each their own at the end of the day, though.

"To each his own," exactly.

And I do use soundcloud SOMETIMES. Youtube just works better for what I'm doing at the moment.

Also, don't forget the instructional potential for the video medium. It's easier to demonstrate to your performers what you expect by having things like how-to's, especially if extended playing techniques are involved, and scrolling scores. It's also good to upload actual performances, which will help you get more performances outside your own circle. That is a chief goal of most composers. Ideally, you would maybe get a steady job, go to a bank, get a title loan on your car, and buy the complete box set of VSL so you can do realistic mockups to accompany videos. Never leave any performance questions in the minds of your performers. (It doesn't have to be as extensive as VSL of course, but it does give you plenty of tools to work with that you wouldn't have otherwise. I'm pretty much satisfied with my Synclavier, except mine lacks a respectable set of brass samples. But it will render some beautiful strings!). Since more younger musicians are just straight-copying everything from Youtube videos now anyway, it is to your advantage to use it effectively. You'll be amazed at what you can do with them with the extra help.

Example of what I'm talking about:


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had fun making this song, it makes me laugh

http://soundcloud.com/horsefluid/sooty-and-sweep
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I enjoy making music as it helps ease my generalised anxiety disorder and relaxes me. It is quite important to me in that regard. I don't particularly like posting it much, but I guess ill try and overcome my shyness here and post a few links, I would note I too am afraid of critisicm, not just negative either, I have no idea how to respond to compliments either and get nervous about them. But here it is anyway...

http://soundcloud.com/chrisctan
http://ionplasmaincineration.bandcamp.com/

I mainly make 90's inspired electro-industrial. I am fond of polyrhythmic beats and metal influenes too, I try to make everything sound like the kind of sci-fi stories I envision in my head - I guess it is one of my ways of escaping reality and going into some kind of cool sci-fi world Smile

I am currently working on a followup to my first Ion Plasma Incineration album, iv spent nearly 2 years on it so far and put a lot of hard work into it. Doubt many will care - but I will still try and put in the effort to make it the best it can be.

Thanks in advance if anyone cares to listen, I appreciate it.
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ZX_SpectrumDisorder
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just did this thing. Soundcloud
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZX_SpectrumDisorder wrote:
Just did this thing. Soundcloud

I actually like the melodic content and textural swagger of this a lot. The only thing that seems to clash a bit is a high-hat, like it needs to be grimed up with some kind of old/bad tape type distortion to have it crunch in and waffle out perversely.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moog wrote:
I had fun making this song, it makes me laugh

http://soundcloud.com/horsefluid/sooty-and-sweep

Heh, could just be my ears - its really kinda disturbing...but in a good way.

Also, on my earbuds at least, that effect that starts at :56, that sort of side-chainy thing (I think overdrive on one of the percussive elements) adds something as well to the groove.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
ZX_SpectrumDisorder wrote:
Just did this thing. Soundcloud

I actually like the melodic content and textural swagger of this a lot. The only thing that seems to clash a bit is a high-hat, like it needs to be grimed up with some kind of old/bad tape type distortion to have it crunch in and waffle out perversely.


Funny you should notice that. It's only thing that isn't distorted, in some way with Camel Crusher.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Moog wrote:
I had fun making this song, it makes me laugh

http://soundcloud.com/horsefluid/sooty-and-sweep


really kinda disturbing...but in a good way.


that could be my life mission statement Smile

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Also, on my earbuds at least, that effect that starts at :56, that sort of side-chainy thing (I think overdrive on one of the percussive elements) adds something as well to the groove.


I was playing with an old plugin called Transverb on the mix. It's a delay/pitchshifter thing with a randomise button. More plugins should offer randomise buttons.
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AbstractAlien wrote:
I enjoy making music as it helps ease my generalised anxiety disorder and relaxes me. It is quite important to me in that regard. I don't particularly like posting it much, but I guess ill try and overcome my shyness here and post a few links, I would note I too am afraid of critisicm, not just negative either, I have no idea how to respond to compliments either and get nervous about them. But here it is anyway...

http://soundcloud.com/chrisctan
http://ionplasmaincineration.bandcamp.com/

I mainly make 90's inspired electro-industrial. I am fond of polyrhythmic beats and metal influenes too, I try to make everything sound like the kind of sci-fi stories I envision in my head - I guess it is one of my ways of escaping reality and going into some kind of cool sci-fi world Smile

I am currently working on a followup to my first Ion Plasma Incineration album, iv spent nearly 2 years on it so far and put a lot of hard work into it. Doubt many will care - but I will still try and put in the effort to make it the best it can be.

Thanks in advance if anyone cares to listen, I appreciate it.


Not my sort of music exactly, but you've got a talent. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZX_SpectrumDisorder wrote:
Just did this thing. Soundcloud


I like it...
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moog wrote:
that could be my life mission statement Smile

This might be a little tricky to follow but on one hand you've got a happy vibe in a lot of your tunes, and on another you have something that seems to come more from this angle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtIGa7rTaNQ

Net result's not nearly as dark but kinda pensive and hung in a distinctive 'Moog' sort of twilight.
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