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Dillogic
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10 Oct 2014, 3:04 am

The thing that just gets me is supposed feminists wanting people to change how they behave in matters that don't have anything to do with equality in the justice/social system and democratic process.

Anything else is in the domain of private affairs.



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10 Oct 2014, 5:02 am

Surely you aren't saying that inequality is just fine as long as it is a "private affair"?



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10 Oct 2014, 6:21 am

The_Walrus wrote:
Surely you aren't saying that inequality is just fine as long as it is a "private affair"?


I surely am.

No Homers Club has every right to exist.



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10 Oct 2014, 8:46 am

I'm 47
live with my mum

she just screamed at me again and said i am lazy stupid and selfish
do I want to leave her?
no way!

better the devil you know!


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10 Oct 2014, 11:05 am

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http://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/piv-is-always-rape-ok/ <---- This applies to all men according to their ideology! Also If your a white male you are evil and should be ashamed of being born white and male because your an oppressor and a rapist, even if you haven't done anything.


In other words....

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Now now we know your ashamed of being born a male and white because you believe in this ideology.


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10 Oct 2014, 11:15 am

We have to stop thinking of ourselves as "victims" hopelessly trapped in something.



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10 Oct 2014, 12:15 pm

^^
True, as I know in my personal life for sure, that this kind of self-defeatist ideology, can surely be a self-fulfilling prophecy, if left unchecked.

The Army has it right, be all you can be, and f**, FUN, the haters, naysayers, and folks who tell one all about big limitations, and small expectations, or expectations one cares not to achieve.

The kids in middle school, in so many words told me I literally did not deserve to exist, for weirdness, and appearance, and I said F** you, I go my own way, you do not own my will.


At work they told me I am too hyper-excitable and will never amount to anything, and I said F** you, I go my own say; you do not own my will.

The boys told me at the city park and at school that only gay guys smile so much like that and are so happy, and I said F** you, get happy yourself, it's fun to be happy, dam it. Well, actually in that scenario as the relatively fragile child I was, I kept it in, under my breath, as yes, I was very logical, and saw that I might not survive with overt confrontational behavior, as these were really big guys. But, never the less, I kept smiling, and overall stayed happy, particularly when school was not in session, and the bullies of life were not around.

And then the boys and girls said, you are too strange, Fred, and too much of a nerd, you won't likely ever find a girl friend or get married, as you just don't know how to regulate emotion. So I turned the other cheek and eventually married one of the most beautiful and kind girls in my area. Yes, it took awhile with me at 29 and her at 19, but the key is, I never gave up, or believed the naysayers/haters in life.

And then in the latter part of my career when downsizing and reductions in civil service occurred, the personal department said it looks Grim Fred, there's no way you are going to be able to stay, in the job you love, if you have a job at all.

So I worked even harder and harder, and eventually the Captain of my base made a deal with the Captain of another base, as they determined I was a commodity they could not afford to lose.

And then finally I broke down, total Autistic Burnout, also known as total Human exhaustion, with 19 documented medical disorders, including the worst pain known to mankind, type two Trigeminal Neuralgia, Sjorgren's syndrome (my eyes quit making tears), and Dysautonomia, where my blood pressure and heart rate no longer, would work in sync, and when I raised my arms, I would almost pass out.

The doctor gave me zero percent chance for recovery; So, I said F** you, not over my breath, as the only way I was going to survive then, even with the substantial money I had saved over the long term, was the legal and medical assessment of permanent disability.

Oh, and then there was a diagnosis of Asperger's syndrome, changed to Pervasive Developmental Disorder Not Otherwise Specified, when the psychiatrist found out I had a language delay until age 4.

The Autism thingy was the least of my concern. I had adapted to that long before, well enough to get by, but never the less, it did play a role in my eventual breakdown of humanity

So after five long years, starting here on this website, after two years of not being able to use my eyes or ears, due to the Trigeminal Neuralgia, that made effective use of them impossible, I developed enough grit to withstand the pain of a computer screen turned all the way down, to start writing here, one excruciating word at a time, in something I never thought I would do, as I hated writing, and was a visual thinking person.

But I did not give up, even after losing all my emotions, including fear, from the pain of Trigeminal Neuralgia that makes a Migraine, a walk in the park, in comparison.

So yes, after five long years of being almost a complete shut-in my bedroom, I moved from INTJ Personality to ENFP, in a matter of months, a year ago Summer; and from 195 on the Aspie Quiz, to 92; from 44 to 45 on the AQ screening test to 11, and from the mid fifties on the Emotional Intelligence Quotient test to 95.

And all the medical maladies, almost miraculously disappeared in my life, including ALL THE PAIN IN my body, which also included Spinal Stenosis, a congenitally fused vertebrae in my neck, and severe degenerative arthritis in my spine.

The professionals who treated me call it a miracle, yes; even a religious miracle, but I chalk it up to the real human potential of epigenetics and neuroplasticity. I presented an extreme challenge to my genetic potential and my genetics responded in kind to an extreme epigenetic change in mind and body finally balanced.

Part of it was poetry and music, as it helped to connect back my emotions with language. Part of it was working on emotional intelligence through the art of dance, and now martial arts. Science now shows that emotions do reside in the body, physiologically speaking, in various body parts, and when they are repressed somatic pain and even autoimmune issues do occur, in part, with this causal factor.

And while I keep having to clarify on this site, that I am trying to help to inspire people and not self-aggrandize when I talk about my road back to health, and what I have achieved, I am sick and tired of hearing that.

So instead I'll provide a link, to ALL OF WHAT I am now, as per the comment above.

I survive now, no matter what anyone told me I could not do in life, for anyone who wishes to see it.

No offense, but I no longer call my self Autistic; I call myself Artistic, truly the way I was born to be, until culture got a hold of me, with truly the eventual challenge of 'JOB'.

http://katiemiafrederick.com/2014/10/09 ... -artistic/

Human will, and the power of unconditional fearless love, is the greatest power humans have on this earth. Not to use that, sadly, is to lose it. And my life is proof, of what can be for folks, who do not let the challenges of life become a self-defeatist ideology, and a self-fulfilling prophecy for failure in life; and yes chronic stress, anxiety, and depression. We are the navigators of our life. No one is going to fix our problems, but us, in the long run.

Yes this is true, in my opinion, too.


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10 Oct 2014, 12:33 pm

Dillogic wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
Surely you aren't saying that inequality is just fine as long as it is a "private affair"?


I surely am.

No Homers Club has every right to exist.

There's a world of difference between "fine and dandy" and "has a right to exist".

And don't people who disagree with those who have horrible views have every right to attempt to get them to change their horrible views?



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10 Oct 2014, 5:37 pm

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And don't people who disagree with those who have horrible views have every right to attempt to get them to change their horrible views?


Yep.

Just don't make it a law so you can't have horrible views.



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10 Oct 2014, 5:43 pm

So you accept that people might have things to campaign for beyond "equality before the law"? And we haven't even touched on access to birth control, prevention of violence, access to SRS, forced marriage, genital mutilation, and the glass ceiling.



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10 Oct 2014, 6:03 pm

Of course. That's what freedom of speech is all about; the good and the bad.



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11 Oct 2014, 1:21 am

Isnt being a professional victim the opposite of women empowerment? I mean seriously they go apeshit when a woman encourages em to take martial arts lessons or arm themselves. Im starting to think they just want the attention and money and encourage profiling every male they come across at least the radicals anyway but the radicals never seemed to have much logic to begin with esspecially with the whole all PIV is rape thing. The whole victimhood thing is actually giving a negative message that all women are weak and helpless when its not true at all. Idealogies such as sexism against men does not exist and neither does misandry, they claim for equality when they demonize men including male victims of the same crimes commited against them as well, also reason why its feminism and not equalism the double standards are ridiculous as well. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZBpdZbSYSg[/youtube]


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11 Oct 2014, 11:19 pm

Dillogic wrote:
The thing that just gets me is supposed feminists wanting people to change how they behave in matters that don't have anything to do with equality in the justice/social system and democratic process.

Anything else is in the domain of private affairs.

That's just silly. We shouldn't publicly criticize citizen behavior unless it's illegal (or we're trying to make it so)? Really? The majority of people in this country would still smoke if that were the case.



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12 Oct 2014, 4:36 am

What exactly is referred to by "changing behaviour in areas that don't have anything to do with justice in the social system"?



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12 Oct 2014, 5:15 am

LKL wrote:
Dillogic wrote:
The thing that just gets me is supposed feminists wanting people to change how they behave in matters that don't have anything to do with equality in the justice/social system and democratic process.

Anything else is in the domain of private affairs.

That's just silly. We shouldn't publicly criticize citizen behavior unless it's illegal (or we're trying to make it so)? Really? The majority of people in this country would still smoke if that were the case.


That's what you can call my subjective view on it. Criticize all you want. Try and change people all you want. Just remember that there's some you will never change. You aren't going to get them to change no matter what though, unless you want to throw out freedom of speech -- which means you can easily be nullified.



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12 Oct 2014, 1:16 pm

How many feminists does it take to screw in a light bulb:
12.
One to screw it in,
one to excoriate men for creating the need for illumination,
one to blame men for inventing such a faulty means of illumination,
one to suggest the whole "screwing" bit to be too "rape-like",
one to deconstruct the lightbulb itself as being phallic,
one to blame men for not changing the bulb,
one to blame men for trying to change the bulb instead of letting a woman do it,
one to blame men for creating a society that discourages women from changing light bulbs,
one to blame men for creating a society where women change too many light bulbs,
one to advocate that lightbulb changers should have wage parity with electricians,
one to alert the media that women are now "out-lightbulbing" men,
one to just sit there taking pictures for her blog for photo-evidence that men are unnecessary.


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