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| keira wrote: | If you say so.
I just thought it was hurtful and directed at the person rather than his opinion. But that's just my personal opinion. 
I didn't mean to anger anyone.  |
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i am not angry, just absolutely bewildered. maybe explain how it could be a personal insult?
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keira
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"your opinion on this subject is ill-willed and negative" = directed at a certain opinion
"you spread ill will and negativity" = directed at the person
That's how I see it.
I don't really want to argue about this as it's rather subjective and it's not my place to criticize anyone. All I know that I would be hurt and insulted if someone said that about me. However, I don't feel any of those things when someone says something like "no one here cares" or "I don't want to meet any of you", even though I understand that I'm among those people he's talking about. I must be weird I guess.
Really though, I don't want to get any deeper into this.
Everyone have a beautiful day! |
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hyperlexian
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you already criticised me. did you not think i would be hurt and insulted to have you say this to me? i have never attacked anyone on this site ever. i am gutted. telling me to have a beautiful day after that does not really help much. 
for the rules, it works like this:
"you spread ill will and negativity" = directed at the behaviour (just like if someone said, "you post hateful things about Obama")
"you are a bad person who has a horrid soul" = directed at the person
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keira
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I was simply confused about how things work around here as some of the things that I see happening don't match my own personal opinion. So I asked a question. I didn't think it was bad to question. You asked me to explain my opinion, so I did.
I honestly never meant to hurt or insult anyone and I'm truly sorry if I did.
And I sincerely wish everyone to have a beautiful day. |
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Guybrush_Threepwood
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When Pooh simply can't take his constant negativity anymore...
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| keira wrote: | "your opinion on this subject is ill-willed and negative" = directed at a certain opinion
"you spread ill will and negativity" = directed at the person
That's how I see it.
I don't really want to argue about this as it's rather subjective and it's not my place to criticize anyone. All I know that I would be hurt and insulted if someone said that about me. However, I don't feel any of those things when someone says something like "no one here cares" or "I don't want to meet any of you", even though I understand that I'm among those people he's talking about. I must be weird I guess.
Really though, I don't want to get any deeper into this.
Everyone have a beautiful day! |
FWIW I a) appreciated AussieBloke's personal kindness to me in his original post but b) also appreciate confirmation that what was said in the post is an overgeneralization that can be harmful if taken literally, because as it so happens the specifics of the no one cares part hit very close to home for me and it took a bit of mental effort for me to see the post in the light it was intended, which was an appeal to people to be more caring and respectful. I very much appreciate that sentiment but I also appreciate that the structure of the post was such that if taken literally (the default) it could have the opposite of the intended sentiment.
I think hyperlexian, aussiebloke, and you are all very caring people, so obviously caring people are on here. |
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augggghhhhh.   i detest envelopes, bills, paperwork & check-writing. |
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Guybrush_Threepwood wrote: | When Pooh simply can't take his constant negativity anymore...
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| CloudLayer wrote: | | aussiebloke wrote: | Why was my post edited I don't get it ?
Is this a power trip for you or something ? |
Well I saw the post, wherever it went. Hits close to home. I appreciate your response. |
Thanks I'm glad some one got it.
I kinda groaned when I got a new message in my PM , but it seems everything is A ok
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| I wish my idiot brother and my mum would stop arguing. Mainly because I can hear my brother's irritating, whiny voice in this room whilst they are in the kitchen. Just shut up. |
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I just got really upset and posted this on Facebook (censored for the sake of WP)
| Quote: | | Y'know I've been in a good mood for the last couple of days and now I can't quite express how much every single thing makes me feel angry and upset. Everything seems like a ploy to make me feel as **** as humanly possible. A while ago I was talking to someone who I actually thought I could trust, I thought I had something like a friend, and then what do they do? Completely cease all contact. Using me for their own gratification and then throwing me away when it becomes inconvenient. I'm sick of it all now. It keeps happening in little ways. What am I supposed to do? Scream as loud as possible? Life reduces you to that and then calls you selfish. **** it all. |
I guess I feel like I have to hate people because I think that people don't want to know me/will just abandon me. For the most part people have from my perspective. Though that's likely more because of my attitude as a result of thinking that. Doctor gave me antidepressants but they made me feel really weak; I almost fainted after taking them the second time. Been too busy to go back. Before that I smashed my head hard on a door in plain sight - hard enough that I fell over and wrecked my sight a little - because I wanted someone to take notice of me. In the end all that happens is someone pressures you into saying you're alright and you get ignored again. I know I have to try and change but it's hard when you spend the whole of high school basically isolated from the rest of the kids and friendless.
I've been having to deal with other stuff too. College work is getting intense although tbh I can do better than most people with less effort. My alcoholic brother has been having serious withdrawals and might have a stomach ulcer now; he's been ill for a long time but he keeps getting worse and he doesn't act like himself any more. Lack of sleep is getting to me too.
All this would be relatively okay if I didn't spend all my time alone. I don't even have online friends to talk to and I haven't had any friends for years (or for that matter, any close friends ever). I wish I didn't need people but I feel empty without them. |
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I guess I feel like I have to hate people because I think that people don't want to know me/will just abandon me. For the most part people have from my perspective. Though that's likely more because of my attitude as a result of thinking that. Doctor gave me antidepressants but they made me feel really weak; I almost fainted after taking them the second time. Been too busy to go back. Before that I smashed my head hard on a door in plain sight - hard enough that I fell over and wrecked my sight a little - because I wanted someone to take notice of me. In the end all that happens is someone pressures you into saying you're alright and you get ignored again. I know I have to try and change but it's hard when you spend the whole of high school basically isolated from the rest of the kids and friendless.
I've been having to deal with other stuff too. College work is getting intense although tbh I can do better than most people with less effort. My alcoholic brother has been having serious withdrawals and might have a stomach ulcer now; he's been ill for a long time but he keeps getting worse and he doesn't act like himself any more. Lack of sleep is getting to me too.
All this would be relatively okay if I didn't spend all my time alone. I don't even have online friends to talk to and I haven't had any friends for years (or for that matter, any close friends ever). I wish I didn't need people but I feel empty without them. |
A lot of this actually sounds like what I am going through. I have the same tendencies with others as well, especially in real life. I will get past the stage of becoming familiar, then when I do I usually sense that they start to become uninterested in what I am saying to them or they will possess certain NT personality traits that I can't stand, usually both. I don't think what I say is boring as I'm usually quite an open person when I am discussing something I'm interested in, but maybe it is boring to them I'm not sure. I think this stems from my own experiences of rejection in school, which makes me believe that once I hit a snag with someone, even if its something minor that it means the person isn't interested in talking to me. Maybe you experience this for the same reason?
At my lowest point just over a few years ago, I tried a couple of different anti depressants myself. They also had the same effect on me, just made me feel tired and sick. I don't think they were, or will ever be the answer for me, as I feel my problems are more psychological that I will need to work on.
In terms of friends, I've always had at least one friend in some form. I don't count the one's during school as during that time I hadn't accepted who I was and adapted my personality to fit in to make life easier, which frustrated me on a daily bases. I'm still in touch with a few, but would most likely not meet up with any of them again. As for right now, I don't have any friends that I see regularly, I do have a small group of friends but only see them roughly once a month or so. I still get frustrated when trying to socializing, especially with new people and sometimes wish I didn't have the desire to keep and make friends, as I would save myself a lot less pain that way. But sadly I do. |
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This should be moved to adult so I can have a proper [expletive deleted] tirade, obscenities and all.
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