phil777
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There're likely some exceptions, but it's usually case-per-case. =/ You guys are lucky in one respect, is that Quebec french often relies on anglicisms, we tend to use english words as they are in english or with small modifications, the most common being "char" => "car" :p
There're quite a few more specific traits of Quebec french, but it'd take a while to list here. One of the most amusing ones was (it dates back to the french revolution, pretty much) from the french talked by the french monarchy, before they get beheaded. They would basically switch an "e" with "a" (or vice-versa) when before a "r". That makes some odd words, such as "farme" when you'd usually say "ferme" (a farm, not sure if there's a link with the english term here). Those are usually in the popular speech, you won't (or seldom) hear that on TV or the news. To complicate things even more, sometimes they would inverse the position of the "e"/"a" before the "r", so that they would come after it. You can even add in the previous trait, and it gives something like "artourner" for "retourner". Again, this while usually only be heard in spoken Quebec french, you usually don't really write that way, but some anglicisms can be allowed when writing. =/ |
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jc6chan
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| phil777 wrote: | | There're likely some exceptions, but it's usually case-per-case. =/ |
I'm not sure if thats how its said in Montreal (in english obviously), but I go with "case-by-case" and thats how everyone around here says it. I was thinking that you used the word "per" since in french you would use "par" to replace the english word "by". |
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phil777
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| Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Hum, yeah.... <,<; |
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Sparx
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J'ai juste commencé enseigner moi-même français avec l'aide de traducteurs en ligne... pas la meilleure façon d'apprendre une langue. Je crains que ma grammaire est horrible. xD Je suis le genre de une 'grammar nazi'.  |
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sMeow
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Oui, ce doit être assez dur. Je suppose qu'il y a de bons sites anglais -> français pour apprendre.
"J'ai juste commencé enseigner moi-même français avec l'aide de traducteurs en ligne..."
"J'ai juste" may be remplaced by "je viens juste de" in this sentence, which would make it better if you talk about something which happenned recently ("j'ai juste" isn't wrong, though it may be weird for a French).
"enseigner" is used when you learn something to someone (like "to teach" in english) ; when you learn yourself a language, it's better to use "apprendre" ("to learn"). It's also a less formal way than "enseigner" to say you teach something to someone, though it depends more of the context and there may be some little changes to do in the sentence.
You have to put "le" between "moi-même" and "français".
So one of the possible way to say that would be "Je viens juste de commencer à apprendre moi-même le français avec l'aide de traducteurs en ligne". Said in this way, "moi-même" isn't recquiered.
"Je crains que ma grammaire est horrible."
It's "je crains que ma gramme ne soit horrible", though I can't really explain why. :/
"Je suis le genre de une 'grammar nazi'."
It's "je suis un genre de 'grammar nazi'."
Though most of these corrections, are things which are more learned by practicing than by studying (like the last one), I guess.
My skype name (and a few other names for other programms) are in my signature, if you want to practice your French by writing. 
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Sparx
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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| sMeow wrote: | Oui, ce doit être assez dur. Je suppose qu'il y a de bons sites anglais -> français pour apprendre.
"J'ai juste commencé enseigner moi-même français avec l'aide de traducteurs en ligne..."
"J'ai juste" may be remplaced by "je viens juste de" in this sentence, which would make it better if you talk about something which happenned recently ("j'ai juste" isn't wrong, though it may be weird for a French).
"enseigner" is used when you learn something to someone (like "to teach" in english) ; when you learn yourself a language, it's better to use "apprendre" ("to learn"). It's also a less formal way than "enseigner" to say you teach something to someone, though it depends more of the context and there may be some little changes to do in the sentence.
You have to put "le" between "moi-même" and "français".
So one of the possible way to say that would be "Je viens juste de commencer à apprendre moi-même le français avec l'aide de traducteurs en ligne". Said in this way, "moi-même" isn't recquiered.
"Je crains que ma grammaire est horrible."
It's "je crains que ma gramme ne soit horrible", though I can't really explain why. :/
"Je suis le genre de une 'grammar nazi'."
It's "je suis un genre de 'grammar nazi'."
Though most of these corrections, are things which are more learned by practicing than by studying (like the last one), I guess.
My skype name (and a few other names for other programms) are in my signature, if you want to practice your French by writing. |
I knew it! 
Merci! I shall add you. |
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sMeow
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Je t'ai accepté sur Skype.
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Sparx
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| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Okay xD |
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