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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How glorious are the victors that return from battle! How blessed are the martyrs that die in battle! Rejoice, courageous athlete, if you live and conquer in the Lord, but exult and glory all the more if you die and are joined to the Lord! Life is indeed fruitful and victory glorious, but according to Holy Law, death is better than either of these things.

-- Doctrine of the Knights of Christ/Knights Templar, First Crusade


Now that's something any suicide bomber could take to heart.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quatermass wrote:

Hmm. Whoever supports ID nowadays puts the memetic equivalent of a "kick me" sign on their arse.


yeah, pretty much. I've been doing that all over the net lately Twisted Evil. The one problem with them is that they are very so fanatically devoted to their belief; it is in essence a defense of their reality.

But it is easy to tell when they clearly lost (i.e. if they start praying for you, damning you to hell, etc)...

Donald Simanek offers up a theory as to why they seem to hang on to ID: http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/philosop/bugging.htm

I like this quote right here:
Simanek wrote:

If creationists really understood science they would despise it even more.


Go figure...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RadiantAspie wrote:
Quatermass wrote:

Hmm. Whoever supports ID nowadays puts the memetic equivalent of a "kick me" sign on their arse.


yeah, pretty much. I've been doing that all over the net lately Twisted Evil. The one problem with them is that they are very so fanatically devoted to their belief; it is in essence a defense of their reality.

But it is easy to tell when they clearly lost (i.e. if they start praying for you, damning you to hell, etc)...

Donald Simanek offers up a theory as to why they seem to hang on to ID: http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/philosop/bugging.htm

I like this quote right here:
Simanek wrote:

If creationists really understood science they would despise it even more.


Go figure...


As Adam Savage is fond of saying, "I reject your reality and substitue my own."
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

call it what it is, creationism. intelligant design, what a joke
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know this is an old thread, but the show came out a few days ago.

You can watch it online too, right here: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/id/program.html

Time to grill those "cdesign proponentsists" once and for all!
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