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MissPickwickian
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I am being held hostage by NTs.  Someone save me!
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zendell
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Location: Austin, TX
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| Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | I've heard that some people on this forum object to the suggestion
that Asperger's Syndrome is a psychiatric disorder. |
From CDC website on autism:
DSM-III (1980)[3]
* Differentiated autism from schizophrenia (not a psychiatric disorder, but developmental)
Link to CDC website
Psychiatric implies that there's something wrong with a person or they are mentally ill. The way I act is normal considering my situation. If someone is sad for a few days because someone they knew died, that's normal considering their situation. If someone was very sad and suicidal for no good reason, that's a mental problem (depression) that should be treated. I was born with certain weaknesses that result in me acting autistic. Autism used to be considered childhood schizophrenia meaning the "experts" believed we acted different because we are crazy (as opposed to being born with neurological differences) and I find that very offensive. |
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violet_yoshi
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Age: 27
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| Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:01 am Post subject: |
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| Douglas_MacNeill wrote: | Violet_Yoshi:
Let me set my remarks in context for you.
Recent ads by the Child Study Center of New York University
featured a series of fake ransom notes alleged to be
written by various pediatric psychiatric illnesses, including
Asperger's Syndrome. The idea behind those ads was to
persuade parents of children who might have these conditions
to report to the CSC at NYU for screening tests.
I and others in this forum found the ads objectionable, to say
the least. Persons who have experienced Asperger's Syndrome,
as I have, are prepared to take both the losses and the gains from it.
My personal reaction to these adverts was to challenge the premise: that
persons with Asperger's Syndrome are passive victims of the
syndrome rather than people struggling to overcome its negative effects.
I hope this clarifies things for you.
| violet_yoshi wrote: | | Douglas_MacNeill wrote: | No; I am holding my autism to ransom!
And I demand nothing less than the right to live
independently, with the right to keep any gains I have
made from my experience with it as well as
compensation for any damage it, or its sequelae, may
have done to me.
Take that, NYU! |
That reminds me of a hair product ad I saw. Where this girl was supposed to be holding herself hostage, in a chair, and torturing her own hair. It was so rediculous, and silly. Like, oh no her hair is being tortured..like the Saw film or something. Heh. |
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I don't understand where you thought, I misunderstood what you're saying, by referring a humourus anecdote to it. Really, it feels rather ifantilizing, having you explain this to me like I'm dumb. I'm sorry you didn't get what I was saying in my post.
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Douglas_MacNeill
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Joined: May 11, 2007
Age: 45
Posts: 741
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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| Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| violet_yoshi wrote: | | Douglas_MacNeill wrote: | Violet_Yoshi:
Let me set my remarks in context for you.
Recent ads by the Child Study Center of New York University
featured a series of fake ransom notes alleged to be
written by various pediatric psychiatric illnesses, including
Asperger's Syndrome. The idea behind those ads was to
persuade parents of children who might have these conditions
to report to the CSC at NYU for screening tests.
I and others in this forum found the ads objectionable, to say
the least. Persons who have experienced Asperger's Syndrome,
as I have, are prepared to take both the losses and the gains from it.
My personal reaction to these adverts was to challenge the premise: that
persons with Asperger's Syndrome are passive victims of the
syndrome rather than people struggling to overcome its negative effects.
I hope this clarifies things for you.
| violet_yoshi wrote: | | Douglas_MacNeill wrote: | No; I am holding my autism to ransom!
And I demand nothing less than the right to live
independently, with the right to keep any gains I have
made from my experience with it as well as
compensation for any damage it, or its sequelae, may
have done to me.
Take that, NYU! |
That reminds me of a hair product ad I saw. Where this girl was supposed to be holding herself hostage, in a chair, and torturing her own hair. It was so rediculous, and silly. Like, oh no her hair is being tortured..like the Saw film or something. Heh. |
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I don't understand where you thought, I misunderstood what you're saying, by referring a humourus anecdote to it. Really, it feels rather ifantilizing, having you explain this to me like I'm dumb. I'm sorry you didn't get what I was saying in my post. |
Violet_yoshi:
You mentioned a hair product ad in your reply;
what was the hair product?
I'll admit I was far too harsh in my response, however,
and I did misconstrue your jest.
Would it help if I said, "I'm sorry"?
Merry Christmas,
Douglas_MacNeill |
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mcsquared
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Joined: Oct 28, 2007
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| Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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| zendell wrote: |
Psychiatric implies that there's something wrong with a person or they are mentally ill. The way I act is normal considering my situation. If someone is sad for a few days because someone they knew died, that's normal considering their situation. If someone was very sad and suicidal for no good reason, that's a mental problem (depression) that should be treated. I was born with certain weaknesses that result in me acting autistic. Autism used to be considered childhood schizophrenia meaning the "experts" believed we acted different because we are crazy (as opposed to being born with neurological differences) and I find that very offensive. |
It's kind of a slippery slope with these distinctions though, especially since nowadays most mental illnesses are said to be caused by a biochemical imbalances or some kind of neural failure in the brain. I'm sure there are plenty of schizophrenics or bipolar people that think they're acting normal too and who have similar problems with the stigmas they face from society.
I would actually be interested to find out the distinction between the training of a neurologist and a psychiatrist--I would think psychiatrists would also have to know a fair amount of neurology and would need to know about any disorder that has to do with the brain and behavior. |
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pakled
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nutbag
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| Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Never been held hostage. But Autism once snuck up one me in the attempt to klop me with a sock full of nickles.
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eScential
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| Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| MissPickwickian wrote: | | I am being held hostage by NTs. Someone save me! |
I agree!
Nothing else is holding me back from acheiving my full potential.
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Tim_Tex
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:04 am Post subject: |
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I am not held hostage by autism.
Tim
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