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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pastafarian!!


Well.. Agnostic, I dabble in different spiritual beliefs.. they intrigue me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use to be Catholic, but now I'm going by no Religion.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm an ex satanist after that i turned christian and now i'm a happy athiest Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agnostic.

God, save me from your followers... (from a bumper sticker)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dadman wrote:
Agnostic.

God, save me from your followers... (from a bumper sticker)


I first thought I was Agnostic but decided to go with my birthright which Jewish but I'm a part of Reform sect of Jewish. I really don't anything religious to growing up in a household with parents of two different religions. We just celebrated the major holidays and that is it basically.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dadman wrote:
God, save me from your followers... (from a bumper sticker)


XD There's actually a book called, "Lord Save me from your Followers" and it's written by a Christian, he loves God but he realizes the silliness of all of these religious nuts Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SierraBell wrote:
dadman wrote:
God, save me from your followers... (from a bumper sticker)


XD There's actually a book called, "Lord Save me from your Followers" and it's written by a Christian, he loves God but he realizes the silliness of all of these religious nuts Razz



Interesting, I didn't realize that. I live fairly near Pat Robertson's empire, so I'm influenced by that (negatively). His school however, Regent University, has some pretty good people on staff and in attendance.

Also, I have to apologize for posting here - I wasn't paying enough attention when I did that. I'm definitely not an adolescent anymore. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a Jew converted to atheist. I actually recently heard this: 65% of children who are enrolled in Catholic schools become atheists. Judging by what Catholic schools are like that's not hard to believe.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Julia_the_Great wrote:
I am a Jew converted to atheist. I actually recently heard this: 65% of children who are enrolled in Catholic schools become atheists. Judging by what Catholic schools are like that's not hard to believe.

Wow.. I'm an Atheist and I went to catholic school when I was younger.. I stopped going when I was around 8 to 9 years old but I didn't realize it was utter bullshit until I was 12.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't believe in religion because of its narrow-mindedness, its dogmas, superstitions, irrationality and divisiveness.
Atheism is another dogma i strongly dislike.

Meditation and mysticism are cool however and doing spiritual practices is in my opinion the only way of finding lasting happiness.
Evolution is also cool, but not the dogma that only spontaneous mutations followed by natural selection can do the job.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daran wrote:
I don't believe in religion because of its narrow-mindedness, its dogmas, superstitions, irrationality and divisiveness.
Atheism is another dogma i strongly dislike.

Meditation and mysticism are cool however and doing spiritual practices is in my opinion the only way of finding lasting happiness.
Evolution is also cool, but not the dogma that only spontaneous mutations followed by natural selection can do the job.

Atheism is not a dogma it clearly means you do not believe in any God or Deity. Anything past that including science and evolution have absolutely nothing to do with Atheism though many Atheists do believe in evolution and such. You don't consider disbelieving in Santa Clause or The Easter Bunny a dogma do you?

Also Evolution is basically proven, though we're not sure exactly how life began in the first place (It was definitely not made spontaneously) we're finding more and more out as time goes on. In fact there's a group of scientists somewhere right now that are close to making life in a laboratory, if this proves successful that will give us one way life can be made which may even give us further clues to how life first started on Earth.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atheism is definitely a dogma because there is no chance for the small human mind to measure its cause and yet atheists believe that they are able to say something regarding the existence of God. They are no better in that sense than religious people, but these at least admit that you can't prove or disprove God by using logic and reasoning. Atheists are therefore greater fools than religious people.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daran wrote:
Atheism is definitely a dogma because there is no chance for the small human mind to measure its cause and yet atheists believe that they are able to say something regarding the existence of God. They are no better in that sense than religious people, but these at least admit that you can't prove or disprove God by using logic and reasoning. Atheists are therefore greater fools than religious people.

What you just said indeed proves you don't even have an understanding of the whole situation. First off how is there no chance for the 'small' human mind to measure it's cause? You mean it's impossible to explain how we were made? Oh that's definitely possible so I have no idea where you got that idea from. And why wouldn't we be able to say something regarding the existence of God? We're not aloud to criticize or question other's beliefs? If we didn't question the God hypothesis ourselves we wouldn't be Atheists, and the way I see it the probability of God is the same as any other imaginary creature. I consider myself agnostic to God as I do to Zeus or any other thing in the same nature. And actually we don't say you can prove or disprove God using logic or reasoning, we say you can't prove or disprove it in general. And in general the whole belief looks like a lie flat out and it's obvious enough to me and I don't even want to begin to have to explain why I feel that way again, but looking at the belief in a creator or God from a logical point of view makes you laugh a bit then wonder how anyone could believe such a thing in the 21st century.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am Agnostic.
I've never actually followed a religion, but I did read the bible when I was a bit younger.

My parents don't follow any particular religion ether, but they do believe in god.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

z0rp wrote:
What you just said indeed proves you don't even have an understanding of the whole situation.

I think it is you who can't understand what I said.
Indeed mind cannot understand its cause, because the cause of the mind is beyond logic and reasoning which can only move within the limits of mind itself.
You can of course talk about God as much as you like! Razz
But that doesn't mean you can say anything meaningful on the nature or existence of God.
I wasn't talking about beliefs, can't say that I find much use in believing or not believing anything for that matter since it has very little practical value to believe in something.
For advanced mystics God is not a hypothesis at all, but part of their experience of their own reality, their own existence. Whether you call that God, the higher Self or Maha-Nirvana is of little importance. God is not merely something people made up but rather the basis or cause of our existence.
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