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sarahstilettos
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| I've been thinking about why it could potentially bother people that you haven't yet moved out. I think its because people perceive it as lazy? Some guys stay at home because they like being cooked for and cleaned up after. I'm guessing you need the moral support for dealing with life, thats why I'm at home right now, but I think you'd have to explain to a girlfriend that you hoovered now and again and cooked your own food. |
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Tim_Tex
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Some people live with their parents to save money to get a place of their own. When they have enough money, they move out.
I am currently living in a college dorm, while I go to school full-time. Hopefully, that will alleviate some of the social awkwardness I used to have.
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sarahstilettos
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Tim_Tex wrote: | Some people live with their parents to save money to get a place of their own. When they have enough money, they move out.
I am currently living in a college dorm, while I go to school full-time. Hopefully, that will alleviate some of the social awkwardness I used to have.
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I guess there is a slight difference of culture here. I live in London and seriously nobody I know apart from my mother has their own house, or even part of their our house, (mortgage). Everybody rents because its just too expensive to buy. Occassionally you run out of money completely and have to go home for a year or so and pay off your debts. But no one I know is even bothering to try to save for a deposit. |
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LePetitPrince
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Here in Lebanon living with parents till 30 is something very normal.
With an average home price of $90K and with an average salary of $500 that shouldn't be a surprise. The rent prices vary between $200 and $1000 per month. |
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ciounoi
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: Realistically speaking, would you ever date a guy like I |
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| Mw99 wrote: | Mid 20s, straight, average height, about 40 pounds overweight. I suppose I was somewhat attractive during my high school years, since I got a healthy amount of attention from women, but that's not the case anymore though, and women have not demonstrated any interest in me in years. I'm one of those guys who wears the same shoes every single day of the week. I have a college degree and I currently have a low-level white-collar job where I earn a below-average salary for the type of job that I do. I live with my parents. I don't own a car. My interests don't require me to go out of the house. I spend most of my free time in front of my computer. I don't have friends. I have never had a girlfriend. I'm known for being "weird." I suffer from a variety of AS induced problems. I can't make small talk. I eschew social situations.
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Dude, I'm dating your clone. Except your clone also has anxiety problems up the wazoo and doesn't have a job. Fear not, you'll get a girl some day! But you do need to get out of the house.  |
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Mw99
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Realistically speaking, would you ever date a guy like I |
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| Eire wrote: |
Except I wasn't the one asking if anyone would date someone like me.  I'm not unattractive or obese and I wouldn't have a problem getting dates if I wasn't kind of weird. And I don't think it's shallow of you to have physical preferences for who you would date. I'm the same, I think most people are. I doubt anyone would want to date someone they weren't attracted to. |
Just because there are guys out there who are horny enough to date you it doesn't mean that you are not unattractive. That being said, do you live in Ireland? |
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kitschinator
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:01 pm Post subject: Re: Realistically speaking, would you ever date a guy like I |
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| Mw99 wrote: | | Just because there are guys out there who are horny enough to date you it doesn't mean that you are not unattractive. That being said, do you live in Ireland? |
I would not date you because your rudeness is appalling.
One girl in the entire thread has been nice to you and you thank her by inferring she must be ugly and you would never date her. |
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Mw99
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: Realistically speaking, would you ever date a guy like I |
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| kitschinator wrote: | | Mw99 wrote: | | Just because there are guys out there who are horny enough to date you it doesn't mean that you are not unattractive. That being said, do you live in Ireland? |
I would not date you because your rudeness is appalling.
One girl in the entire thread has been nice to you and you thank her by inferring she must be ugly and you would never date her. |
No, I did not infer she is ugly. She might very well be not unattractive, and I have no reason to doubt her, but if that's the case then it's certainly not because there are guys out there willing to date her.
I missed the part where I gave you the impression that I suggested I would never date her. |
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merr
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| Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| LePetitPrince wrote: |
ps:I guess living with parents is a big turn-off in your culture and you are perceived as 'loser' that can't afford to own his own house. |
It's not that people think you are a loser, they may think that, due to lack of experience, you may not know how to take care of yourself. I think it is different here, even for women. I know some (Christian) girls whose parents will not let them live outside the home until they are married. I think this is fine.
But not for me. This is because I somewhat believe for a person who has been sheltered, or extremely socially anxious and reclusive, this may be somewhat harmful for me to wait until I am married. I can feel that I am not gaining any experience on being used to the real world. SOmetimes I get out there and it almost feels too much. I forget what it's like to be around people. I dont want to wait until Im thirty because in the US, I'd be in the same position as a kid out of university, and I want to be ahead of that. I'd be at a disadvantage.
Also, my parents are conservative, and they hate when I have my boyfriend in my room. I'm 21 (my conservative university makes students sign honor codes to live at home until I graduate) and it's a little ridiculous to have my dad send my sister to check on us every 30 minutes, and for me to have to leave my door open, and for my parents to moniter whether he curses or not. The thing is, most women know that theyd have to sneak around parents with their adult boyfriend or deal with the parents' rules. If they have respect for your parents, they wouldnt go against their wishes, so it makes it easier if you have your own place and your parents aren't watching (or know)your every move.
I definitely agree that it is okay to move back in with parents while you repay your college bills. It's a very smart thing to do. That's why I sugested to move out before he is 30, if he is able to. |
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Mw99
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| merr wrote: | | To be honest, If you can, MW99, it would probably be best to look for an apartment within the next five years, simply because some women would like to be alone with their men, without the interference of parents. (it is possible that this may be a requirement with mainly NT women, only). |
I have very few reasons to doubt that by the time I am at the level where I am actually capable of bringing women home I'll be a lot older than 30.
I'm not in a rush to get out of my parents' house. |
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Eire
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:42 am Post subject: Re: Realistically speaking, would you ever date a guy like I |
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| Mw99 wrote: | | Just because there are guys out there who are horny enough to date you it doesn't mean that you are not unattractive. That being said, do you live in Ireland? |
I brought back my old avatar. It's a picture of me. I know everyone has different preferences and I'm probably not a lot of people's cup of tea, but I don't think I'm unattractive. No I don't live in Ireland, I live in California. I'm half Irish and Ireland is one of my obsessions. |
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Eire
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:45 am Post subject: |
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| sarahstilettos wrote: | | I guess there is a slight difference of culture here. I live in London and seriously nobody I know apart from my mother has their own house, or even part of their our house, (mortgage). Everybody rents because its just too expensive to buy. Occassionally you run out of money completely and have to go home for a year or so and pay off your debts. But no one I know is even bothering to try to save for a deposit. |
In the U.S. (or at least in California where I live) people usually don't get their own house either. Way too expensive. Most people I know rent an apartment with several roommates. I live with my parents though. |
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merr
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| Eire wrote: | | sarahstilettos wrote: | | I guess there is a slight difference of culture here. I live in London and seriously nobody I know apart from my mother has their own house, or even part of their our house, (mortgage). Everybody rents because its just too expensive to buy. Occassionally you run out of money completely and have to go home for a year or so and pay off your debts. But no one I know is even bothering to try to save for a deposit. |
In the U.S. (or at least in California where I live) people usually don't get their own house either. Way too expensive. Most people I know rent an apartment with several roommates. I live with my parents though. |
My boyfriend is from california, and my god I can't believe how expensive real estate and even rent is out there. Where I live it is much more unexpensive, but everything balances out with the expense of the living and salaries so I guess it is about the same. Everyone I know rents an apartment until they have a family, then they move into a house for more room, and space for a dog to play with the kids and a kiddie pool, and all that.
you are pretty btw. |
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sinsboldly
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| Mw99 wrote: | | merr wrote: | | To be honest, If you can, MW99, it would probably be best to look for an apartment within the next five years, simply because some women would like to be alone with their men, without the interference of parents. (it is possible that this may be a requirement with mainly NT women, only). |
I have very few reasons to doubt that by the time I am at the level where I am actually capable of bringing women home I'll be a lot older than 30.
I'm not in a rush to get out of my parents' house. |
I haven't been a young lady for quite some time so I asked some young women (1 at 19, 2 at 22, 1 at 23 and 4 at 25 year olds) during a break at my place of business. I just asked "would you date a young man of 25 that still lives with his parents?" the answers came thick and fast "no! he would just want me to take over for his mother!" "probably doesn't have practical knowledge of budgets and bill paying!" "who cleans HIS toilets?" "what? no "whoopee?"" "he better live in his own apartment, though" "who cooks and clean for him?"
The nineteen year old was much more open to it because "I would like to meet his folks, and if he lived with them I could always use that for reasons not to become physically intimate if I didn't want to." The 25 year olds were the most vocal about it being a turn off/ deal breaker because as one put it "I am looking for a man that can take care of himself so he will appreciate me when I look after him"
your mileage may vary as I live on the NorthWest Coast of the North American Continent.
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Pandora
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It wouldn't have bothered me provided I got along with his parent/s and other family.
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