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15 Dec 2008, 5:34 pm

I guess the girl who owned the Protection Force for Females against Autistics, decided to infiltrate Wikipedia with her paranoid anti-Autie sentiments, since she got her site kicked off of Facebook.



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20 Dec 2008, 11:59 pm

It is my opinion that some people have their wires crossed and this confusion causes them to impute the sins of psychopaths on asperger people... I like that expression "to have their wires crossed" - paints a pretty picture.



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21 Dec 2008, 5:40 am

Samara wrote:
when I was a teen I seriously thought of killing my mum and stepdad. I remember making a phone call when I was 15. I wanted a person dead but I didnt want to take away someone's father. If it had of been ok with this person. I would have killed. There is no doubt. As an adult I went through a stage were I was so angry. More than Ive ever been. I wanted to kill some one.
It could have come to that especailly given how confused I was.
This person would not have deserved at all so does that make me a psychopath? I have had many assessment. I have had my medical and criminal history examined by a forsenic psych and I havnt been labelled with any psychopathic disorder.
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Because it wasn't dx'ed, doesn't mean it ain't so.
Because psychosis wasn't dx'ed at the time, doesn't mean you don't have psychotic episodes.
Ultimately, diagnoses are essentially based on what you choose to tell the psych.



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21 Dec 2008, 6:50 am

Most serial killers are low-intelligent, but there is a group of high-intelligent serial killers which we should look closer at.

I think that resentment from the NT society could lead to alienation of Aspergians and make some of them become violent against NT;s.

Such outbursts of terrorism are not good because they may turn the NT;s against Aspergians.

It is advisable that Aspergians are organising collectively as a group, to prevent violence.



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02 Jan 2009, 5:23 am

So if "professionals" are labeling both Einstein and Dahmer autistic, than what would the two have in common?? I think the distinction they need to make is that between being sick and not sick. I don't think aspergers has anything to do with it.



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02 Jan 2009, 5:30 pm

How was Dahmer autistic? Are people confusing sociopath with autism now?



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02 Jan 2009, 6:03 pm

The American Psychiatric Association defines a sociopath as follows:


Antisocial personality disorder is characterized by a lack of regard for the moral or legal standards in the local culture. There is a marked inability to get along with others or abide by societal rules. Individuals with this disorder are sometimes called psychopaths or sociopaths.
Diagnostic Criteria (DSM-IV)

1. Since the age of fifteen there has been a disregard for and violation of the right's of others, those right's considered normal by the local culture, as indicated by at least three of the following:

A. Repeated acts that could lead to arrest.
B. Conning for pleasure or profit, repeated lying, or the use of aliases.
C. Failure to plan ahead or being impulsive.
D. Repeated assaults on others.
E. Reckless when it comes to their or others safety.
F. Poor work behavior or failure to honor financial obligations.
G. Rationalizing the pain they inflict on others.
2. At least eighteen years in age.
3. Evidence of a Conduct Disorder, with its onset before the age of fifteen.

4. Symptoms not due to another mental disorder.

This definition doesn't quite tell the whole story, though. Sociopaths are often disguised as ordinary, even likable people; but a closer look at their lives shows that they often cause heartbreak and catastrophe to anyone who makes the fatal error of getting close to them.

People with this disorder appear to be charming at times, and make relationships, but to them, these are relationships in name only. They are ended whenever necessary or when it suits them, and the relationships are without depth or meaning, including marriages. They seem to have an innate ability to find the weakness in people, and are ready to use these weaknesses to their own ends through deceit, manipulation, or intimidation, and gain pleasure from doing so.

In short, sociopaths are like a person who lives inside a room full of mirrors. They are motivated by their own needs and feelings and only interact with other individuals as a means to gaining something that they feel they need. They have no regard for the other person's feelings or consequences beyond their own personal goals.

Romantically, they can be charming, give flattering comments and do little favors and give apparent undivided attention -- all the activities that we usually associate with someone who is kind and loving. But these are just learned behavior -- a means to an end -- and disguise the fact that the sociopath has no feeling of empathy or love, as most people know it.

Taken to the extreme, a sociopath is capable of murder, rape and violence. They can beat up an old woman, abuse a child or kill students in a classroom with calm, calculating precision. They simply do not feel the sense of right or wrong, or compassion. To the sociopath, these concepts are intellectual -- not emotional.



Read More here

http://www.mondovista.com/sociopath.html



Would also like to add that a sociopath can pass lie detector test, can the sociopath fool psychiatrists?



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05 Jan 2009, 11:56 am

Richard Nixon definately seems AS I've heard people say he has it and I don't doubt it.



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05 Jan 2009, 3:21 pm

MartyMoose wrote:
Richard Nixon definately seems AS I've heard people say he has it and I don't doubt it.


Crap. Now I'm ashamed to be an Aspie. :oops:


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27 Feb 2010, 11:54 pm

I think many of us become violent after years of persecution from NTs, they are naturally sadistic, cruel, cold and hateful



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28 Feb 2010, 12:58 am

Oh thank you for digging this old thread up, I am sick and tired of this Aspie = Socialpath
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13 Mar 2010, 1:10 am

In my social isolation I feel scared about how similar I am to most serial killers. Ofcourse i never hurt and animal or even another person willinglly but my personality shows the signs of those who murder. I think there are alot of other factors involved into psychopathy even though it's similar to Aspergers it is not the same. Psychopaths tend to of had horrible childhoods, caused by bad parents. As adults their social isolation manipulates their feelings.

Human morality is very changable. Look at how many germans were supportive of Hitler during world war 2. Thousand of seeminglly "normal" people in the german army willinglly killed thousands of jews. Psychopathy is an issue of Emotion not autism. There seem to be similarities between the most well known serial killers and autistics but still im sure there are more NT murderers than Autistic ones in this world anyway.



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13 Mar 2010, 2:04 pm

Did you know that a large percentage of serial killers are white?
THE DARK SIDE OF WHITE PEOPLE

OP, what are you smoking?


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14 Mar 2010, 12:10 am

and if some had brown eyes, woukd it be the dark side of having brown eyes?


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14 Mar 2010, 4:56 am

Moony wrote:
Did you know that a large percentage of serial killers are white?
THE DARK SIDE OF WHITE PEOPLE

OP, what are you smoking?
LOL

Im not sure what stats your looking at but somebody could argue that there are just more white people in the U.S. If your looking at the stats for Serial killers in the U.S.



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29 Jul 2010, 1:03 pm

It is very easy for ambitious law enforcement and prosecutors to seek opportunities to convict autistic people of sexual crimes against children. Autistic people cannot fight back as effectively as normal people in the legal system. Society is conspicuously outraged and sometimes lynches convicted paedophiles. But those who have been institutionalized while growing up learn sooner or later that autistic children are especially attractive to sexual predators. The Boston Globe June 10, 2001 reports that about 5 % of crimes against disabled result in convictions compared to 70% for normal people; possibly this is what makes them so attractive. Papers by David S. Mandell, Christine M. Walrath, Brigitte Manteuffel, Gina Sgro and Jennifer A. Pinto-Martin and papers by Ammerman tell us that sexual things being done to institutionalized autistic children is quite common. By this behaviour, the system has chosen to be a self registered in sex offender status having demonstrated how it behaves when it can get away with it. This should be thrown back into the face of anybody who wants to sell a claim that autistic people are sexual offenders.