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Likho
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 Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:24 am Post subject: Re: male, gay, and have AS |
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| alphacent wrote: | Heterosexual females: ring and index fingers are about same length.
Gay females: ring finger is longer than index finger.
Heterosexual males: ring finger is longer than index finger.
Gay males: index finger is longer than ring finger.? |
but that would mean im a gay male... o.o
im bisexual/gay female. XD |
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Aridarr
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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New Russell T. Davies series: Queer AS folk.  |
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txstorm
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| ButchCoolidge wrote: | | I am of the firm belief that sexual orientation is at least 90% mental. I'll be damned if the length of my fingers has anything to do with my sexuality. |
You've got to be joking. |
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Griff
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:35 am Post subject: Re: male, gay, and have AS |
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| alphacent wrote: | | Certainly there must be other males with AS who are also gay. |
Me.
| Quote: | | What does this say about the testosterone theory? |
I've always found it ridiculous. AS does seem to be, in some respects, an amplification of certain traits associated with its effects, but I don't think that testosterone is the culprit. It just doesn't work that way.
| Quote: | | My own guess is that my AS and gayness neutralize each other to some degree--I am neither as "macho" as my AS might make me, nor as feminine as my gayness would make me. |
I've never had the slightest degree of machismo.
| Quote: | | People who meet me do not see either trait in me at first! Thus, I am guessing that this "neutralization" of both parts of my personality is a reality. |
If they have neutralized one another, I have two pressing questions:
1) Why are you chasing after other men's bottoms?
2) How in the Hell did you get diagnosed with AS? |
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Kalister1
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| Aridarr wrote: | | New Russell T. Davies series: Queer AS folk. |
ROFL.
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IsThatAFact
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| Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:57 am Post subject: |
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The research this story is based on tells it a little different; it is more to do with how many older brothers you have as well as the finger length ratios.
If anyone is interested in the non-Chinese whispered version the full paper from Nature is available along with other papers from one of the author's website.
Website
http://www.msu.edu/~breedsm/pub.htm
Direct link to Nature article
http://msu.edu/~breedsm/pdf/breedlove2000.pdf |
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Paul56
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| Liopleurodon wrote: | | alphacent wrote: |
I am just as curious as the rest of you to find the "causes" of AS and of abnormal sexual orientations. Until we know the actual causes, I am willing to listen to any theories, as long as they are scientific.
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Excuse me?
Are you trying to wind me up, or do you not realise how offensive that is? |
Yeah- I hope that the "abnormal" reference is a poor attempt at tongue-in-cheek humour. Then again, from bitter experience, bigots turn up everywhere. It's kind of galling when they turn up among people who should no better. |
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Averick
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, like the psychologist who took my finger length. He said I was abnormal, and he wanted to have me institutionalized. I believe the finger correlation to be a myth, and nothing more - though an interesting one. |
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Asi9
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| Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm not so sure about the finger measurement thing as a form of gay-dar. But I know I'm gay. But I have lesbian hands according to this. |
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sonny1471
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The finger length theory is just that... a theory. There is no real proof that orientation can be shown through finger length. I do think there is a weird mixing of personality traits when one is both AS and gay though. I'm gay and have "feminine" moments now and again, but I also have definite "butch" moments too. It just depends on the situation.
Oh, and for the record... my ring finger on both hands is longer than my index finger. |
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Brandon-J
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| Wow that's really messed up to be gay and have aspergers. I find myself saying alot of times why was I chosen to have aspergers. Then I look at the bright side and say at least I ain't gay. |
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Asi9
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Well check out my sig. I'm the biggest hodgepodge of "What the HELL happened here??".
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agmoie
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Its impossible to be gay and have Aspergers if you are male.Yes many female Aspies are lesbian or bisexual.
Every gay I have ever met has similar eye contact and mannerisms/body language to female heterosexuals.
Hormones ARE the determining factor in sexual orientation and brain development.
Low levels of testosterone in the male fetus in the womb=gay
High levels of testosterone in the male fetus in the womb=Aspergers
The Asperger`s diagnosis is handed out too readily especially in America.
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Asi9
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I'm sorry.. But to the one above me.. That's some crap. I've known gay guys before who are more socially awkward then I am. It sounds like you're stereo-typing. If we're going to get technical.. I'm a gay guy. I only make eye contact with my mother and the "higher ups" (like my Bosses.) only because I'm told I have to. I've also met some guys that are WAY more butch then any straight guy that happen to be gay.
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IsThatAFact
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| I thought that stereotypically Aspies were logical and analytical, reading some of the poorly informed and clearly bigoted and prejudiced comments in this discussion, I am not convinced that many so called Aspies are really any different from expressing the same ignorance that we criticise most of the 'normal' population for having. |
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