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Does our society encourage abusive behaviours in women?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And just forget about most movies or anime with those kind of characters in them. Most people will tend to worship the ground such characters walk on because they're "strong" (HAH.), and besides, hey, she softened up in the end, so it's all good, right? Umm... no. :\ I really don't think that makes up for two hours or an entire season of being slapped around, called an idiot, one upped and otherwise mistreated. Viewers would be appalled if a series or movie ended with a girl getting together with an abusive guy as portrayed in a positive light, so why should the reverse be permitted? Even more disgusting is the fact that people will often prefer the bitch to the guy she abuses, and defend her actions on the basis that the guy's being annoying/wimpy/stupid/whatever they choose to call him made him deserving of being treated as such, or simply assert that it's funny and therefore okay (I'm looking at YOU, Evangelion and Invader Zim fans!). Rather conducive to temporarily losing one's faith in humanity, if you ask me.

Oh man, have you ever watched Love Hina? I couldn't stand that Naru (female lead) would constantly push around and punch Keitaro (male lead), who deserved maybe only 10% of the abuse he ever got from her, and that I was supposed to laugh at a girl punching around a guy. If I were in Keitaro's shoes, I'd have tossed her aside and chose Mutsumi (much nicer, all-around superior secondary character) over her. But one of my friends, the person who recommended that anime to me, actually defended Naru's behavior and said that he liked her, solely because she's hot. Rolling Eyes My grandma, three-times divorced, once said out of the blue to my parents, "men like bitches". Sometimes I wonder...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BakaBomber wrote:
My grandma, three-times divorced, once said out of the blue to my parents, "men like bitches". Sometimes I wonder...


I think there's something to that. They say men like a challenge. I expect women do, too. Or it could be a way of avoiding intimacy. Confused
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Yupa
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anemone wrote:
BakaBomber wrote:
My grandma, three-times divorced, once said out of the blue to my parents, "men like bitches". Sometimes I wonder...


I think there's something to that. They say men like a challenge. I expect women do, too. Or it could be a way of avoiding intimacy. Confused


Who wants to avoid intimacy? (I suppose if someone were to avoid intimacy it would be due to the fear that intimacy would entail being uncomfortably close to someone who is abusive or simply stressful to be around, in which case someone who wants to avoid intimacy would probably look for someone who's the complete opposite of a jerk/bitch imo.... sorry if that didn't make sense)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it's abuse or stress that people avoid when they're afraid of intimacy. I think it's niceness that's scary. Because then you might start to trust the person, get attached to the person, think that person's going to be around. Then that person could really hurt you badly by leaving.

On the other hand, when someone's abusive or neglectful, you stay on your guard, so they are less likely to hurt you unexpectedly. You expect things to be bad, or at least not very good, so you aren't disappointed. You're not setting yourself up for a fall, because you're staying at the bottom to begin with.

And when you get close to people you don't really like, it doesn't matter so much if they reject you, since you didn't like them much in the first place. But if you tried to get close to someone you actually liked, and that person rejected you . . . major pain.

So it's easy to get into the trap of never trying to get close to anyone who might actually be good for you, so you won't be disappointed if they're not. Don't know if that makes sense. It's counterproductive in the long run, but makes sense in the short term.
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