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Quirky kid does/does not = "Regular" High School
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Quirky kid does/does not = "Regular" High Scho Reply with quote

Number_2 wrote:
And therein lies the problem: he has determined that "most people are stupid".


Most Aspies come to this conclusion eventually. Which is interesting because a large number of Neurotypicals come to the same conclusion about Aspies. The mere fact that most Aspies tend to have very high IQs compared to NTs would probably suggest the Aspies are right but that would be hijacking your thread.

You are VERY unlikely to convince the Aspie he isn't smarter than everyone else if you are a NT. Aspies spend years trying to understand how NTs minds work and how to affect them. NTs generally spend little or no time trying to figure out how Aspies minds work. Even if you are as smart as him your arguments won't work.

So do what works:
1) Teach him people don't like to be treated as if they are stupid.
2) Teach him most people just get angry if you correct them.
3) Teach him he is different and cannot put themselves in an NTs shoes. NTs will not react the same way as an Aspie.
4) Teach him his easiest way to respect is skill. <NT: Man he is odd but he fixed my computer problem in seconds>
5) Teach him to detect and avoid emotionals. <People who use their emotions to act rather than thinking.>
6) Teach him to say nothing in a conversation. To draw the NT into talking and act being interested in their 4th hangnail.

One way of getting him into college might be finding something he has researched completely and introducing him to a professor who is an expert in it. In advance ask the professor to try and draw him into the topic. It is likely the Aspie will impress the professor and bingo he becomes a college student under someone's wing.

Oh and find him another Aspie for a friend. He will likely find one on his own but you can probably find him one faster.

Whee lots of advice. I hope some of it helps.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Quirky kid does/does not = "Regular" High Scho Reply with quote

Programmer wrote:

You are VERY unlikely to convince the Aspie he isn't smarter than everyone else if you are a NT. Aspies spend years trying to understand how NTs minds work and how to affect them. NTs generally spend little or no time trying to figure out how Aspies minds work. Even if you are as smart as him your arguments won't work.

Double trouble.

The whole family is spectrum. Dad won't admit to anything. Closest we got on him was a surreptitious ADHD test from the local psychiatrist (off the chart). Even the cat won't eat her Friskies if they're the wrong temperature or if her plate has been moved.

Luckily, I'm not trying to convince him he's not smarter than everyone else (of course he is), I'm just trying to teach him how to not express that fact so clearly at 14. Some of my memories are fuzzy, but I do recall getting the crap beaten out of me in grammar school for having a similar attitude...

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So do what works:
1) Teach him people don't like to be treated as if they are stupid.
2) Teach him most people just get angry if you correct them.

covered above
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) Teach him he is different and cannot put themselves in an NTs shoes. NTs will not react the same way as an Aspie.

You know what the most difficult part is about this? He looks at me and says: "Mommy, you're an Aspie, not me."
So I muss his hair, say "yes, honey, you're my quirky kid", and I come on here and type. I'm now trying the "you know, you think differently, like in the Apple campaign" approach...

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4) Teach him his easiest way to respect is skill. <NT: Man he is odd but he fixed my computer problem in seconds>
5) Teach him to detect and avoid emotionals. <People who use their emotions to act rather than thinking.>

Actually, I have hubby to thank for these two. He's a very skills oriented individual.
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6) Teach him to say nothing in a conversation. To draw the NT into talking and act being interested in their 4th hangnail.

Not normally a problem. Saying nothing, that is. Getting him to not walk away from the conversation, however...

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One way of getting him into college might be finding something he has researched completely and introducing him to a professor who is an expert in it. In advance ask the professor to try and draw him into the topic. It is likely the Aspie will impress the professor and bingo he becomes a college student under someone's wing.

Great idea.

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Oh and find him another Aspie for a friend. He will likely find one on his own but you can probably find him one faster.

That hadn't occurred to me.

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Whee lots of advice. I hope some of it helps.

I'm sure it will. Thank you.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:22 am    Post subject: Quirky Kiddo Reply with quote

So your kid wants to go to real high school. I don't blame him. My son goes to regular high school, but he is autistic, looks normal, acts kinda normal. It's really hard for him these days. It almost seems like he's going backwards. He wanders around at night. His interest in things is minimal. I think high school is good, but he is what he is and sometimes they just can't cope out there. He has some great friends, but none of them understand what he's going through. Perhaps he needs someone like him to help him along. I hope your "kiddo" does well. As for you, well, I guess it's the one day at a time thing. Smile
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