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benjimanbreeg
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No, I think Odin has a point. Just think about this. I heard President Bush say, God told him to go to war in Iraq. So either God is evil, for telling Bush to start a pointless war and kill thousands of innocent people, or more likely, The man in charge of the worlds most powerful country is INSANE!  |
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Andyb
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| benjimanbreeg wrote: | | No, I think Odin has a point. Just think about this. I heard President Bush say, God told him to go to war in Iraq. So either God is evil, for telling Bush to start a pointless war and kill thousands of innocent people, or more likely, The man in charge of the worlds most powerful country is INSANE! |
...or he's dyslexic and it was actually his Dog talking to him...
oscuria:
I would rather insult or blaspheme than punish or even kill another human being in the name of some 'god'.
If hate and exclusion are the basis of a belief system, those people are not praying to a benevolent deity... 
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Hanwag
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| oscuria wrote: | | Hanwag wrote: | Any Christian with any logic would not have a problem with homosexuals. When the bible was written a very important thing in this issue was not known: homosexuality is inborn (this is no point of discussion, but a scientific fact)! Combining this with the ideas from the bible that god is good and omnipotent, the next ideas come:
That means basically that God makes people gay, because he is omnipotent. If gays 'happen' by accident that will mean God is not omnipotent. This is not consistent with the bible.
Ofcourse there is the thought that God gives free will to people and that people are responsible for their deeds still. In that case if God is omnipotent and makes people gay, but will not allow them to be themselves, he is just Cruel. Since God is good it would be very strange if for this one point he will be cruel. People are cruel in his name though. Being good I also think he would not like that. |
Well, if He made them gay and people have free-will, then the free-will of the people will lead them to abstain from homosexual acts. I mean, that only took less than a minute to think that out. |
Ofcourse I know that reasoning. I meant that one when I said that makes god cruel. Being gay but having to supress it (and even marry someone of the other sex instead) will make life pretty hard on these people and for some nearly impossible. So then god chooses to make these people suffer basically just for fun. This is not the god you'll find in a lot of other parts of the bible where he is said to be good. The conclusion for me is that it is just that part of the Christian people that are cruel. |
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Andyb
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Or maybe it's that people need their god's to be the model of what they aspire to because they themselves are too weak to live up to their own ideal?
...or have I just had too much coffee today? 
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Ragtime
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Jesus wasn't gay.
But what would be the significance if he was, given that he died a virgin (which takes effort when you're that famous).
So who cares what inner human feelings he may or may not have had 2,000 years ago?
Talk about a pointless question...
If you're talking about him hanging around 12 guys,
are you saying that every guy who has male friends is gay? 
I sit on my couch all the time, but I don't buy it flowers. 
People CAN have non-sexual friendships, ya know...
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Odin
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| oscuria wrote: | | I find it ironic and laughable that an autistic recommends a person that believes in such an idea to be sent to a psych. ward. |
Autism isn't comparable to insanity.
If you regularly have auditory hallucinations you are not getting divine messages, you are psychotic.
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MR_BOGAN
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| Ragtime wrote: | Jesus wasn't gay.
But what would be the significance if he was, given that he died a virgin (which takes effort when you're that famous).
So who cares what inner human feelings he may or may not have had 2,000 years ago?
Talk about a pointless question...
If you're talking about him hanging around 12 guys,
are you saying that every guy who has male friends is gay?
I sit on my couch all the time, but I don't buy it flowers.
People CAN have non-sexual friendships, ya know... |
I don't know if Jesus was gay, no one knows.
But say if he was gay. How would he feel about gay marriage? Would gay sex be concidered a sin??
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Fred2670
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Jesus was really hairy and never bathed
John threw him into the river looking to
knock some of that stank off but..
they were never a couple
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