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sojournertruth
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so you see a divide between 'legal' marriages and 'true' marriages?
What about marriages performed by ship captains? |
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oscuria
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| sojournertruth wrote: | so you see a divide between 'legal' marriages and 'true' marriages?
What about marriages performed by ship captains? |
Now, now. If you've read anything you know my position. Frankly, I couldn't care what you think of it. Feel free to ridicule it.  |
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Phagocyte
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| Fred2670 wrote: | nothing wrong with gay matrimony
as long as the government is willing
to pay for a long honeymoon in a
concentration camp or Niagra Falls
flip a coin |
That was a stupid thing to say.
And you're stupid for saying it.
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LKL
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| oscuria wrote: | | sojournertruth wrote: | so you see a divide between 'legal' marriages and 'true' marriages?
What about marriages performed by ship captains? |
Now, now. If you've read anything you know my position. Frankly, I couldn't care what you think of it. Feel free to ridicule it. |
If she knew, she wouldn't be asking. You are assuming, perhaps, that you have been clearer than you were. You said:
| Quote: | | I've already made a point, either here or in another thread, that marriage is meant to raise a family. It is also meant to be between a man and a woman (obviously many of you will disagree). Do I like the fact that many heterosexuals prefer to marry and not respect the marriage's boundaries? Of course not. Do I like Las Vegas weddings, as some other member mentioned, No. I find these bring down the value of a marriage and only distorts it. But because it is already a distorted message, why should then it be allowed to be distorted even further by allowing homosexuals to marry? |
Just out of curiosity, do you think that infertile people should be allowed to marry? Or that infertility is grounds for divorce? Do you think that old people past the fertile periods of their lives should be allowed to marry? |
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MissConstrue
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 Don't get ole Osuria fired up again. I think he just wants to rant  since that's all he's been doing in this whole loooooooong entire thread. Makes me wonder. 
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slowmutant
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When oscuria talks about tolerance, he raises a very important point.
How far should tolerance extend? How malleable should value-systems become? Tolerating others is obviously the bedrock of human civlization. Value systems, ditto. But everything needsb to have clearly defined boundaries. It's noted here that boundaries should be somewhat flexible and adaptable, yet stil retain the shape of whatever they were meant to contain. I won't tolerate everything and anything. I tolerate a lot, but I have my limits. |
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| slowmutant wrote: | When oscuria talks about tolerance, he raises a very important point.
How far should tolerance extend? How malleable should value-systems become? Tolerating others is obviously the bedrock of human civlization. Value systems, ditto. But everything needsb to have clearly defined boundaries. It's noted here that boundaries should be somewhat flexible and adaptable, yet stil retain the shape of whatever they were meant to contain. I won't tolerate everything and anything. I tolerate a lot, but I have my limits. |
Those are my thoughts about religion, freedom and tolerance, but having limits (refusing medical treatment as an example, rituals that endangers people, etc).
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oscuria
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Forgot about this thread.
1) I won't hold her comment as serious.
2) a: Not all married couples are able to have children. b: That is left between the couple to decide (but I don't believe in divorce). c: The last question is absurd.
| MissConstrue wrote: | | Don't get ole Osuria fired up again. I think he just wants to rant since that's all he's been doing in this whole loooooooong entire thread. Makes me wonder. |
Not fired up by anything. Not even a rant either : rant - To speak or write in a angry or violent manner; rave.
I'm not angry nor violent.
It is good to wonder. Be curious.
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MissConstrue
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skafather84
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| oscuria wrote: | | LKL wrote: | | oscuria wrote: | | There can be no such thing when marriage, despite modern belief, is a religios duty. |
Then atheists getting married should be illegal, too.
The fact is that marriage is, and has been for quite some time, a civil affair rather than a religious one. You can wave your hands however you want over whatever alter you want, but you can't do your taxes 'married filing jointly' until you've each signed the paper at the courthouse. |
Inform me when an atheist has their rights performed by a priest. |
every time they lie to one to appease their significant other.
and you do realize you can get married without a priest, right? |
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slowmutant
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How does one elope without a priest? Where?
Las Vegas. D'oh! Of course.
Those drive-thru "marriages" don't really witness anything substantial. For f***k's sake, you can get married by an Elvis impersonator in that city. |
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oscuria
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| skafather84 wrote: | every time they lie to one to appease their significant other.
and you do realize you can get married without a priest, right? |
They are marriages by name alone.
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skafather84
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| oscuria wrote: | | skafather84 wrote: | every time they lie to one to appease their significant other.
and you do realize you can get married without a priest, right? |
They are marriages by name alone. |
and by law. |
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oscuria
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| skafather84 wrote: | | oscuria wrote: | | skafather84 wrote: | every time they lie to one to appease their significant other.
and you do realize you can get married without a priest, right? |
They are marriages by name alone. |
and by law. |
Ha, no arguments from me.
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Teoka
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I agree with the OP If you want rights, you gotta fight for them. Looks like the LGBT community already is, so we've got no problem there.
Wow, the ignorance of some people is astounding 
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