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Zancaur
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shelby wrote:
Good for you for apologizing Zancaur! And like I said, I think you learned a good lesson to watch what you say on a forum. An angry rant that you typed out when you were mad, can haunt you later when you've calmed down!

You'll probably find there will be more angry posts on this thread because there are some who will come along and read the first post, and not realize you have already taken it back. I'd suggest if it's not deleted (which I doubt it will) that you go back to the first post and edit it to say you have changed your mind. Then, if you stop posting in it the thread will eventually sink down until nobody reads it any more.


I did what you said.
And yes, I tend to vent on the internet a lot. Believe me, this situation is not unfamiliar :p
Anyways, this will be my final post here (I have edited my OP. Those are my final words on the subject), so there is no use in arguing with me any further Smile
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi Zancaur
i can understand your complaint .
to be honest i am starting to feel a bit guilty replying to threads as if i am defenetly on the spectrum
i will never know until i have my diagnoses and i imagine from your point of view its anoying
knowing that you are defenetly on the spectrum discussing this with people that dont realy know
100 percent that they are, and no doubt you are seeking discusion, advice and help from others
which will be hard to except or even believe from some one who is self diagnosed.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

toby2 wrote:
hi Zancaur
i can understand your complaint .
to be honest i am starting to feel a bit guilty replying to threads as if i am defenetly on the spectrum
i will never know until i have my diagnoses and i imagine from your point of view its anoying
knowing that you are defenetly on the spectrum discussing this with people that dont realy know
100 percent that they are, and no doubt you are seeking discusion, advice and help from others
which will be hard to except or even believe from some one who is self diagnosed.


I was diagnosed with Lupus for a year before 'they' realized it was hypothyroidism that they had never seen that far advanced. No one ever suggested I was not 100% Lupus when I was diagnosed, but I wasn't . . .not even a little bit Lupus.
It has sorta given me a different perspective of knowing diagnoses are not 100% infallible. They still let me discuss it with other people with Lupus. I suppose I had my Lupus badge, I had a key to the Lupus washroom and knew the secret Lupus handshake, so I got in.

Merle
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will add a little from the other side as well. I worked in a hospital as a researcher alongside lots of very well trained physicians. It was obvious after only a short while how common misdiagnoses were. The issue is "differential diagnosis" and most physicians will admit (often only under pressure) that there isn't much certainty out there.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justthatgirl11 wrote:
I have 30 years of figuring out how to FAKE IT so I could try to fit in, 30 years of feeling like an outcast and a loser and being confused and wondering what was wrong with me. Still thinking I was normal.

Now that I know, I can relax. I feel more comfortable in my head.

And I know without a doubt that my self-diagnosis is correct.


Amen.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spindriftdancer wrote:
Justthatgirl11 wrote:
I have 30 years of figuring out how to FAKE IT so I could try to fit in, 30 years of feeling like an outcast and a loser and being confused and wondering what was wrong with me. Still thinking I was normal.

Now that I know, I can relax. I feel more comfortable in my head.

And I know without a doubt that my self-diagnosis is correct.


Amen.


yeah, like the time I self diagnosed that I was a stark raving alcoholic. it was like one minute I was just couldn't see it, didn't relate to it and the next moment I could not believe how I had missed something so obvious to others all those years. The difference was I IDENTIFIED with the symptoms. I have never questioned that self diagnosis since and the only other DX that ever made any sense, either, was Asperger's Syndrome.

your mileage may vary,

Merle


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*nods* I think it is a reasonable complaint to some extent. I know a couple of guys who claim they have AS. They were both raised by wealthy and entitled old hippies. Having become close with a legitimate asbie and having done a some reading on the subject, I suspect the two guys in question are booksmart and are feel too entitled to hold down a job, so they claim AS. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Selkie wrote:
*nods* I think it is a reasonable complaint to some extent. I know a couple of guys who claim they have AS. They were both raised by wealthy and entitled old hippies. Having become close with a legitimate asbie and having done a some reading on the subject, I suspect the two guys in question are booksmart and are feel too entitled to hold down a job, so they claim AS. Rolling Eyes


That is certainly an interesting information. As any professional on WP, I am interested in your degrees in clinical psychology or psychiatry and in what capacity you are making your diagnosis, Doctor.

respectfully,

Merle
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zancaur wrote:
If my friends google "zancaur" (which I use in every game and on every website) this would be one of the first things to pop up. They will then discover I have AS, and I'd go through the whole "is he my friend, or just acting nice?" thing again.


*raises an eyebrow* are you saying you understand why someone would not want people to know they have AS? interesting.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LostInSpace wrote:
LeKiwi wrote:
What about those of us who were diagnosed young, but who didn't get it put in writing, opting for a 'verbal diagnosis' instead? Got the diagnosis, went through the process, but decided against having it put in writing because of probable problems in the future with discrimination, insurance, work, etc?


My diagnostician also asked if I wanted just a verbal diagnosis. I opted for a paper diagnosis, but only after making sure that I was the only one who would get a copy. I figured it might come in handy at some point, and as long as no insurance companies or employers have access- it's all good!

I only went with a verbal diagnosis, I guess I am being a little paranoid, about any future health insurance or job opportunities.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sinsboldly wrote:
Selkie wrote:
*nods* I think it is a reasonable complaint to some extent. I know a couple of guys who claim they have AS. They were both raised by wealthy and entitled old hippies. Having become close with a legitimate asbie and having done a some reading on the subject, I suspect the two guys in question are booksmart and are feel too entitled to hold down a job, so they claim AS. Rolling Eyes


That is certainly an interesting information. As any professional on WP, I am interested in your degrees in clinical psychology or psychiatry and in what capacity you are making your diagnosis, Doctor.

respectfully,

Merle


Judging by the information given I have given previously, my convictions arise from empirical analysis and a bit of light reading. I have known both subjects over the couse of two years. I never stated that I was a doctor of any sort. I make my "diagnosis" in the capacity of a resonably intellegent human with the ability to make judgements based on observation.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zancaur wrote:
I wish to make one more request to have this thread deleted. I said some stupid things that I regret, and I do not wish for people to track it back to me. Granted, it is a bit cowardly, but this is a name I relate to, and I intend to use it in future venues as well. I know that I should be held accountable for my words, but I would really like for people to show me some mercy here Razz

If my friends google "zancaur" (which I use in every game and on every website) this would be one of the first things to pop up. They will then discover I have AS, and I'd go through the whole "is he my friend, or just acting nice?" thing again.

So please, I have admitted that I am wrong, could you not do me the favour of deleting the thread?

It would be much appreciated.

PS: I would appreciate it if you deleted every thread and post I have made on this forums. Even delete my profile if you could. I tend to obsess over things, and I am afraid of people finding out more information about me than I want them to know.


I don't mean this to sound corny, but I've really tried to be proud of my mistakes. As someone who is easily hurt by any non-positive critique whatsoever, it's been a part of my growing up.

I don't mean to be proud of a mistake, but to be proud of learning from it, for having the guts to admit to it-- and yes, that does take an incredible amount of guts.

I prefer someone such as yourself who is real, imperfections and all. Don't feel bad about it. The embarrassment will fade.

Being perfect isn't impressive. It's learning from your mistakes to make something better. Now that's impressive. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zancaur wrote:
If my friends google "zancaur" (which I use in every game and on every website) this would be one of the first things to pop up. They will then discover I have AS, and I'd go through the whole "is he my friend, or just acting nice?" thing again.


I googled "zancaur" and this discussion was actually the third thing that popped up...
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Specter wrote:
Zancaur wrote:
If my friends google "zancaur" (which I use in every game and on every website) this would be one of the first things to pop up. They will then discover I have AS, and I'd go through the whole "is he my friend, or just acting nice?" thing again.


*raises an eyebrow* are you saying you understand why someone would not want people to know they have AS? interesting.


Specter, You come across as a young man who is generally respectful of others. It is my choice to keep my own DX private. I don't consider it anyone else's business unless I choose to tell them. At this point I have told one person that is not on this site. This is probably how it will stay.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

velodog wrote:
Specter wrote:
Zancaur wrote:
If my friends google "zancaur" (which I use in every game and on every website) this would be one of the first things to pop up. They will then discover I have AS, and I'd go through the whole "is he my friend, or just acting nice?" thing again.


*raises an eyebrow* are you saying you understand why someone would not want people to know they have AS? interesting.


Specter, You come across as a young man who is generally respectful of others. It is my choice to keep my own DX private. I don't consider it anyone else's business unless I choose to tell them. At this point I have told one person that is not on this site. This is probably how it will stay.


Aw, well thank you very much. :D I try to be respectful, even when I disagree. I've failed a few times in this very thread though, I must apologize. And I was pointing out that his own request for anonymity illustrates the point that not everyone wants to be very public with their diagnosis, or make strong attempts to get one.
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