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Quatermass
Yahtzee's Protege
Joined: Apr 28, 2006
Posts: 16393
Location: Somewhere with a sweet hat and a chip on my shoulder
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 Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Ragtime wrote: |
If only people would agree to basic, widespread, and obvious facts,
we could actually been to make progress.
But as it is, neither you nor anyone else appears to be listening. 
And I've made it SO, SO simple, and yet seemingly all of you
still will not admit to simple logic, let alone basic premises and occurances.
So, I'm basically done with this thread.
I don't talk to deaf people, and I don't make slides for blind people. |
That's the pot calling the kettle black.
We've run over your dogma, and you won't concede defeat.
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SotiCoto
Velociraptor
Joined: May 14, 2008
Posts: 474
Location: London
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:47 am Post subject: |
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| Ragtime wrote: |
So, I'm basically done with this thread.
I don't talk to deaf people, and I don't make slides for blind people. |
Says the person asserting existence of a supposed god who cannot be seen nor heard by anyone.
Humourous, meatbag.
You're lucky you decided to vacate before I got here. |
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techstepgenr8tion
cleveland audio assassin
Joined: Feb 07, 2005
Age: 28
Posts: 5228
Location: That's for me to know and for you to find out.
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:53 am Post subject: |
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| Quatermass wrote: | | Ragtime wrote: |
If only people would agree to basic, widespread, and obvious facts,
we could actually been to make progress.
But as it is, neither you nor anyone else appears to be listening.
And I've made it SO, SO simple, and yet seemingly all of you
still will not admit to simple logic, let alone basic premises and occurances.
So, I'm basically done with this thread.
I don't talk to deaf people, and I don't make slides for blind people. |
That's the pot calling the kettle black.
We've run over your dogma, and you won't concede defeat. |
Yeah, the trouble is if someone wants to really push an argument about something, anything, they need to explain themselves well and have a working argument. When someone pushes more the fact that they're right just because the other side is wrong - its a situation where everyone else asks themselves "Ok, so if you asked a question or started a debate but weren't willing to answer our thoughts with anything substantive, why did you bring it up in the first place?". Other than on a pure emotional level (disliking a view, unwillingness to change, attacking it just to make yourself feel better) it really makes no sense. |
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SotiCoto
Velociraptor
Joined: May 14, 2008
Posts: 474
Location: London
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| techstepgenr8tion wrote: |
Yeah, the trouble is if someone wants to really push an argument about something, anything, they need to explain themselves well and have a working argument. When someone pushes more the fact that they're right just because the other side is wrong - its a situation where everyone else asks themselves "Ok, so if you asked a question or started a debate but weren't willing to answer our thoughts with anything substantive, why did you bring it up in the first place?". Other than on a pure emotional level (disliking a view, unwillingness to change, attacking it just to make yourself feel better) it really makes no sense. |
I'm sure they are assured they were doing the right thing originally...
But sooner or later all such things will tend to get personal, lose sight of the real debate and just become asinine squabbling. Of course, provided one maintains a sense of foresight and awareness about such things, it isn't such a problem.
O'course, I'll bet the one attacking evolution was the first to fall into stubborn quarrel mode. |
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techstepgenr8tion
cleveland audio assassin
Joined: Feb 07, 2005
Age: 28
Posts: 5228
Location: That's for me to know and for you to find out.
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| SotiCoto wrote: |
I'm sure they are assured they were doing the right thing originally...
But sooner or later all such things will tend to get personal, lose sight of the real debate and just become asinine squabbling. Of course, provided one maintains a sense of foresight and awareness about such things, it isn't such a problem.
O'course, I'll bet the one attacking evolution was the first to fall into stubborn quarrel mode. |
That said though I'll definitely reinforce the fact that there's nothing wrong with the original post; just that when one sees a viewpoint they disagree with the most sensible thing to do is probe it for weaknesses - not for the sake of overthrowing the other debater but to challenge their own beliefs to see if they hold as firm based on the facts (to which the end result could go either way based on the evidence). That last thing only comes from good listening/reading and asking intelligent questions in return. |
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PLA
Phoenix
Joined: May 11, 2007
Age: 19
Posts: 552
Location: Sweden
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| Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 5:30 am Post subject: |
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Well, I guess one can't force another to think. *sigh*
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Izaak
Squeeky Bathtime Companion
Joined: Jun 11, 2007
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Location: Perth, Western Australia
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:51 am Post subject: |
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| PLA wrote: | | Well, I guess one can't force another to think. *sigh* |
Lol... truer words have scarcely ever been spoken. |
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