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SabbraCadabra
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| sinagua wrote: | | Seriously, how many black nerds can you think of? |
I went to school with at least three who were even nerdier than me 
I've read that whites are more likely to have autism, but like other people have said, it might just have to do with low diagnosis rates as opposed to genetics.
I've only seen trolls say that black people can't have it. |
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aguales
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| deadeyexx wrote: | | There's probably not a greater percentage of white aspies, but very likely a greater percentage of "open" white aspies. |
Interesting. Socio-cultural factors may have a way of nurturing how an individual's neurological differences are revealed and accepted?
Due to how power and privilege is distributed in a society, the minority community may adopt a set of "us vs. them" survivalist principles which include the importance of community cohesion. This survivalist mentality coupled with the importance of community cohesion may offset the "openness" of neurological differences, forcing the individual on the spectrum to break out of his/her autistic shell more often and develop more mimicry or trial-and-error strategies, effectively camaflouging themselves better.
I've also heard the saying, "It takes a village to raise a child." This is probably especially relevant to a child on the spectrum as the more effective role models the child has to learn from, the more effective strategies the child has to draw from. I'll hazard to say that a minority community is set on a default "village" model due to a necessary survivalist and cohesian ethic that more or less is adopted as a defensive measure. The more privileged, majority community probably has had enough power and resources over time to do away with the "village model" and create a self-conscious meritocracy that effectively recognizes and perhaps marginalizes the "aberrations" in their own community.
I have no evidence readily available to me in regards to all this but I do like to hypothesize when inspired. |
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ProfessorX
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Truthfully,  I've come across several people in the Autistic spectrum whom come from a great many ethnic and racial backgrounds.In fact, there was someone whom, I once corresponded via email whom was Native American as well, there was a couple that I often read posts from on a Aspergers group on Yahoo that were Islamic so, Aspergers has no limitations or boundaries as to who has it whereby, I'm glad that I'm not just the only person on the planet to act eccentric otherwise, I'd go bonkers.. 
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nannarob
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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I met a Japenese doctor (paediatrician) who was having 2 months work experience with Tony Attwood. I tried to ask him about autism in Japan but we had communication problems.
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I think there must be some chronic learning disability that is so prevalent among NT's that it goes unnoticed by the "experts". Krex
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twoshots
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| skahthic wrote: | | Autism affects blacks and whites, males and females. I've worked in schools before and have seen autism in many different types of people. |
 The relevant question is how much it effects each. The gender asymmetry is well established I believe(#male autistics >> #female ones), although it remains to be seen if anyone here supporting either view on the relation between race and instance of autism has any hard evidence...
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hartzofspace
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The only hard evidence I have, is myself. Ethnically, I am considered a minority.
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themonkey
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BazzaMcKenzie
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:23 am Post subject: |
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that's fantastic. But what's nerdy about being able to recite Monty Python's Holy Grail? 
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BazzaMcKenzie
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:24 am Post subject: Re: Asperger's Syndrome its not just a white thing |
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| Ruchard wrote: | | Someone said on one of the posts that only white people have Asperger's Syndrome thats not true i am black and i have AS syndrome. |
don't worry about it.
Welcome to WP.
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nirrti_rachelle
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| sinsboldly wrote: | | SotiCoto wrote: | | Ruchard wrote: |
not a monkey so dont call me that |
Pay attention, moron:
| KingdomOfRats wrote: | | SotiCoto wrote: | .... What?
Did anyone ever say it was?
I didn't see them do so... |
Yes,a user called themonkey.
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[Random sidenote: Yes... you are in fact a monkey... sort of. You are part of a clade known as the "Catarrhines", consisting of Old-World Monkeys and Apes... of which humans are a part.] |
ok, ok, look, this is a new user. Ad hominium attacks are not necessary (i.e. calling him a moron.) it was a legitimate mistake and the new user might not have American English as his first language. you guys can be pretty rough on folks, you know.
and yes, we are all animals, but that was no the point.
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It would sound like you were calling him a "monkey" if he didn't read the post preceding yours about the member called "themonkey". No wonder he got P-ed off.
And no, AS is not unique to white people. Blacks just happen to have less access to services that would give them correct diagnosis early on due to economic and geographic factors.
Oh, and this myth about "black culture" disliking anything intellectual has got to stop, ASAP. This is painting a huge, diverse group with one monolithic brush. Why is it that members of minority groups can't be looked at as individuals? I'm Nirrti, who happens to be black, not someone who's supposed to be an example of what all black people do.
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sinsboldly
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| deadeyexx wrote: | I'm not sure how it is in other countries, but in the US, race is a major cultural division. Minorities tend to have a strong sense of community among themselves, and there's a lot of pressure on their members to be "normal" by the community's standards.
For example, the black community really looks down on homosexuality. Members who wish to continually be gay tend to either disassociate themselves from that community or practice secretly. I'm sure other differences from what's expected (like AS) are often hidden in the same way.
There's probably not a greater percentage of white aspies, but very likely a greater percentage of "open" white aspies. |
that is the greatest concentration of narrow stereotypes unsubstantiated by any documentable back up I have seen in one place.
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BazzaMcKenzie
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I'm just an Aussie making an observation on a country I have only seen on TV, but I thought the major cultural divsion was cat lovers (aspies predominatly fall into that), dog lovers, and other bastards who don't like animals.
Although you could also make a cultural divide by separating those that hunt and those that don't. This would similarly categorize dog lovers and whites, because it appears that hunters are just about always white and love dogs. Just have a look at waterfolwer.com and ducksunlimited.com
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slowmutant
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| Strewth? What is strewth? |
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sinsboldly
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| slowmutant wrote: | | Strewth? What is strewth? |
Ancient Aussie mojo, slowmutant.
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The economy is getting so bad my dog is worried.
Alpo is up to $4.00 USD a can and that is $12.00 USD in dog dollars! |
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slowmutant
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| ancient mojo ... cool. |
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