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Awesomelyglorious
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You're arguing semantics in the end. What is consent? What is adult? This is going away from the subject, which is you just care far too much where people stick their dicks. |
I was not aware that there was an optimal level of caring where people stick their dicks. Can you show this using a mathematical model? |
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Awesomelyglorious
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| Kalister1 wrote: |
You're arguing semantics in the end. What is consent? What is adult? This is going away from the subject, which is you just care far too much where people stick their dicks. |
I was not aware that there was an optimal level of caring where people stick their dicks. Can you show this using a mathematical model? |
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oscuria
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| Kalister1 wrote: |
I'm not angry at all sir. You're just wrong. Don't try to avert the fact that you're a faith based holier than thou condescending homophobic bible thumper. You sound like the main character from Notes from Underground, trying to cop a holier than thou attitude even in defeat.
You're arguing semantics in the end. What is consent? What is adult? This is going away from the subject, which is you just care far too much where people stick their dicks. |
Heh, what makes you ignorant is that you assume I follow the bible.. And I don't recall being defeated. I don't see how I've been defeated in anything...??? Just because I'm in the minority does not mean that I've been defeated.
It is not going away from the subject. And besides you are immature as you still insist on using profanity and ridicule to put forth your points. |
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Awesomelyglorious
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| Kalister1 wrote: |
You're arguing semantics in the end. What is consent? What is adult? This is going away from the subject, which is you just care far too much where people stick their dicks. |
I was not aware that there was an optimal level of caring where people stick their dicks. Can you show this using a mathematical model? |
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Awesomelyglorious
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:16 am Post subject: |
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| Crap, triple posted. Stupid slow internet! |
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oscuria
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| Awesomelyglorious wrote: | | Crap, triple posted. Stupid slow internet! |
That was pretty cool. Considering it should have a 30 seconds or so limit between posts. |
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Kalister1
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| Awesomelyglorious wrote: | | Kalister1 wrote: |
In this case, morality is being used to cop some condescending attitude on those who don't consent.
Yes, adult is an arbitrary term, though its commonly defined as having the mental capacity to consent, and that is what I refer to when I use the term adult. That is how I am defining it. In this utilitarian society, sex between two males does not hurt anyone, and brings happiness to the two parties. Yes, only people who can consent, as that is what sex is, after that it goes into the realm of rape. |
Well, the issue is that the age of consent is not something that we can really know. I suppose we can define what cannot consent to some extent, but the age of consent for many societies is SO dramatically lower than our own that we run into some doubt on the objective nature on our rules.
Really though, the only reason why you dislike oscuria's morality is because you like your own morality. What if I say that your morals suck? Isn't that just as valid as your attack on oscuria? |
Yes, my argument was never about the age of consent. That is a gray area in which I stuck to societys norms , and a utilitarian view, for fears that the bible thumper would attack me. Are you ever going to define your own position, or simply keep throwing out questions? So its okay to have sex with 5 year old children in your view?
I don't have any morals. I go by how I feel from day to day. I don't press mine on someone else. However, biology has blessed me with a sense of right and wrong. You can deny it with some postmodernist babble, but almost all of us are blessed with an inherent sense of right and wrong, which guided us in the days of prehistory and has evolved alongside us. We didn't need Jesus to instill it in us, its there from the get go. So where are your morals, sir?
I don't force my morals on anyone. If you want to go into some postmodernist "everything is gray", than good luck! The argument stops here, as you don't put anything into the conversation besides questions that you don't have an answer to. Good luck constructing society with your weak stones. What have you put forth in the conversation besides postmodernist mumbo jumbo?
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Kalister1
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| Awesomelyglorious wrote: | | Kalister1 wrote: |
You're arguing semantics in the end. What is consent? What is adult? This is going away from the subject, which is you just care far too much where people stick their dicks. |
I was not aware that there was an optimal level of caring where people stick their dicks. Can you show this using a mathematical model? |
Hey postmodernist! Stop with the arguing over semantics! www.dictionary.com
There is your answers for common definitions.
Math only applies to math, sir. Why should he care so much about where people stick their dicks? He only wants to assert his holier than thou attitude.
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oscuria
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:22 am Post subject: |
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| Kalister1 wrote: | | Awesomelyglorious wrote: | | Kalister1 wrote: |
You're arguing semantics in the end. What is consent? What is adult? This is going away from the subject, which is you just care far too much where people stick their dicks. |
I was not aware that there was an optimal level of caring where people stick their dicks. Can you show this using a mathematical model? |
Hey postmodernist! Stop with the arguing over semantics! www.dictionary.com
There is your answers for common definitions.
Math only applies to math, sir. Why should he care so much about where people stick their dicks? He only wants to assert his holier than thou attitude. |
Wow. So you worrying about rape, pedophiles, etc constitute as caring? Really, wow.
You could have worded your rebukes much better instead of appearing like an idiot. |
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Kalister1
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| oscuria wrote: | | Kalister1 wrote: | | Awesomelyglorious wrote: | | Kalister1 wrote: |
You're arguing semantics in the end. What is consent? What is adult? This is going away from the subject, which is you just care far too much where people stick their dicks. |
I was not aware that there was an optimal level of caring where people stick their dicks. Can you show this using a mathematical model? |
Hey postmodernist! Stop with the arguing over semantics! www.dictionary.com
There is your answers for common definitions.
Math only applies to math, sir. Why should he care so much about where people stick their dicks? He only wants to assert his holier than thou attitude. |
Wow. So you worrying about rape, pedophiles, etc constitute as caring? Really, wow.
You could have worded your rebukes much better instead of appearing like an idiot. |
I have to word it like an idiot to appeal to one.
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oscuria
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I have to word it like an idiot to appeal to one. |
Really, now. So because I am against the idea of homosexual marriage means that you have a right to speak to me in such a manner? You apologists really know how to drive a point. I can see converts lining up behind you. |
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Kalister1
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:28 am Post subject: |
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| oscuria wrote: | | Kalister1 wrote: |
I have to word it like an idiot to appeal to one. |
Really, now. So because I am against the idea of homosexual marriage means that you have a right to speak to me in such a manner? You apologists really know how to drive a point. I can see converts lining up behind you. |
And do you have the right to speak about homosexuals in such a manner, condemning them to hell and saying how they should "get their own churches"? What homophobic sh**. You're a piece of crap, condemning people just based on having sex with two consenting adults, which we can all agree (Except awesomeglorious) is something thats agreeable.
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oscuria
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:30 am Post subject: |
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And do you have the right to speak about homosexuals in such a manner, condemning them to hell and saying how they should "get their own churches"? What homophobic sh**. You're a piece of crap, condemning people just based on having sex with two consenting adults, which we can all agree (Except awesomeglorious) is something thats agreeable. |
 Now you are proving yourself to be an idiot as I've never posted such things. |
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Kalister1
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:39 am Post subject: |
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| oscuria wrote: | | Kalister1 wrote: |
And do you have the right to speak about homosexuals in such a manner, condemning them to hell and saying how they should "get their own churches"? What homophobic sh**. You're a piece of crap, condemning people just based on having sex with two consenting adults, which we can all agree (Except awesomeglorious) is something thats agreeable. |
Now you are proving yourself to be an idiot as I've never posted such things. |
Your right, Slowmutant posted the first one, another god fearing bible thumper. However, you definitely did some great judging in these:
| oscuira wrote: | | Besides, your beliefs are rubbish to me. I really am not sympathetic to homosexuals getting married. |
| oscuria wrote: | | Goodbye America |
Theres more, but I'm not going to dig through it. So I guess homosexuals aren't American. They also can't be married in your religion, which condemns them to hell. Based on your beliefs, aren't they considered immoral, based simply on where they want to stick their penis? 
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Awesomelyglorious
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:41 am Post subject: |
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Yes, my argument was never about the age of consent. That is a gray area in which I stuck to societys norms , and a utilitarian view, for fears that the bible thumper would attack me. Are you ever going to define your own position, or simply keep throwing out questions? So its okay to have sex with 5 year old children in your view? |
I was planning on throwing out questions. Really though, why is it morally wrong to have sex with 5 year old children?
| Quote: | | I don't have any morals. I go by how I feel from day to day. I don't press mine on someone else. However, biology has blessed me with a sense of right and wrong. You can deny it with some postmodernist babble, but almost all of us are blessed with an inherent sense of right and wrong, which guided us in the days of prehistory and has evolved alongside us. We didn't need Jesus to instill it in us, its there from the get go. So where are your morals, sir? |
A sense of right and wrong? Well, how is that different than any other preference? My morals? Who said I cared to have any?
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I don't force my morals on anyone. If you want to go into some postmodernist "everything is gray", than good luck! The argument stops here, as you don't put anything into the conversation besides questions that you don't have an answer to. Good luck constructing society with your weak stones. What have you put forth in the conversation besides postmodernist mumbo jumbo? |
Sure you do. You force your morals or sense of right and wrong, or preferences or whatever the heck you want to define that force as whenever you stop somebody from acting the way they would naturally want to. This can be through creating any law, or any application of personal force for any goal. The issue is not that I don't have answers though, it is that you claim to.
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Hey postmodernist! Stop with the arguing over semantics! www.dictionary.com
There is your answers for common definitions. |
Not really, most of the definitions we are arguing over have objective meaning, and subjective application. The question is the subjective application, not the dictionary meaning.
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Math only applies to math, sir. Why should he care so much about where people stick their dicks? He only wants to assert his holier than thou attitude. |
Math applies to anything where logic can apply. Why not? So? Why is that preference less legitimate than yours? |
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