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slowmutant
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| Agree to disagree, Sand. That's your best option. |
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Sand
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| It is not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing. A good many of the people here are not stupid. Why do they continue this endless meaningless unresolvable talk? |
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iamnotaparakeet
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Each person wants the last word?
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slowmutant
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| Sand wrote: | | It is not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing. A good many of the people here are not stupid. Why do they continue this endless meaningless unresolvable talk? |
YOU continue it because YOU want the last word. As you said, a good many people here are not stupid. Debating is debating for the sake of debating. It's not about words, ideas, or the truth. It's about competition and ego. The endless back-and-forth is fuelled by vanity, hostility, and boneheadness. On that note I hereby withdraw from this debate. Seeya.
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Sand
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| Does that sum it up. Each one is convinced of their own personal solution and since there is no conceivable way to come to a general agreement the blather goes on? I suppose in more dynamic venues guns are pulled and people who disagree are blasted out of existence. So much for religion and good fellowship. |
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slowmutant
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That's your solution? Shoot anyone who disagrees with you?
Good fellowship isn't a mean or petty thing. Have you experienced good fellowship for yourself? |
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Sand
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| Not mine. I'm not religious. Just look at Iraq where the Shiites and the Sunnis are slaughtering each other for centuries. I don't have a gun nor do intend getting one. I am merely appalled at the useless slaughter when people are dying of diseases and starvation for the lack of human good sense. |
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slowmutant
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| As am I. But you can't blame everything on religion just because you don't like it. That's wrong. |
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Sand
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| Everything? Did I imply everything? Are you satisfied that just those problems involving religious disagreements are negligible? |
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slowmutant
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| Not literally everything! |
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iamnotaparakeet
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How many problems are simply caused by the vices of mankind
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how many are caused by religious disagreement?
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Sand
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| To assume that religion is not merely another avenue for vice and a very dangerous one indeed is to be totally blind to the events, both current and throughout history, that clearly demonstrate this. |
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| Sand wrote: | | Does that sum it up. Each one is convinced of their own personal solution and since there is no conceivable way to come to a general agreement the blather goes on? I suppose in more dynamic venues guns are pulled and people who disagree are blasted out of existence. So much for religion and good fellowship. |
"It is impossible to have a rational discussion with a man who prefers shooting you over being convinced by you"
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Blind faith and the rejection of reason leads inevitably to violence.
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Odin
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| iamnotaparakeet wrote: | How many problems are simply caused by the vices of mankind
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Religion encourages irrationalism and blind faith, which serve to amplify the vices of mankind.
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slowmutant
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Atheism does nothing to save mankind from these ills.
It can't, because it offers nothing. |
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