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pezar
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 Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: Theist arguments refuted by an atheist |
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Theist: If you believe in Jesus and Jesus doesn't exist, then you've won heaven, but if you don't believe and Jesus exists, you're roasting in hell.
Me: This is Pascal's Wager. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager#Criticisms
Theist: Well, the Bible proves itself! (usually followed by an avalanche of Bible quotes)
Me: You DO realize that the Bible was written over many centuries by many people, and that it's not necessarily in chronological order?
Theist: Well, uh, the blue sky and sunrises are beautiful, therefore God exists!
Me: The sky isn't really blue, it just looks that way because of light refraction. The sun doesn't rise, the earth turns. Care for me to explain why the wind blows and why the sun shines?
Theist: You can't prove that God DOESN'T exist!
Me: Of course, it is logically impossible to prove a negative. That doesn't mean the corresponding positive must therefore be true.
Theist: You're going to HELL you evil satanic &*$#%!@%&&^$$^*(&%!!!!!!
Me: Well, you can't argue with illogic. See ya.
Theist: $%@#$#&^*(&^)($%$&$%@ demon possessed son of perdition!!!!.... |
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skafather84
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| Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| pretty much. |
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oscuria
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| Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Really now. Pascal used against theists. That's something.
Here is how pretty much all conversations online go:
Christian conversation with an Atheist -
C: Hello, my brother in Christ
A: WOAH THERE BUDDY! I don't believe in some walking zombie who "miraculously" rose from the dead.
C: I apologize. What do you believe in?
A: I don't believe in any of that crap.
C: Excuse me?
A: It is mind-draining and used to brainwash people. You've been mislead.
C: I don't think I have...
A: Religion is used to wage war. Priests rampantly rape children.
C: What does that have to do with me?
A: You're an idiot for believing such stupid things as fairies and angels. |
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twoshots
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| Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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^  I've seen too many parodies of Christians already. I needed that oscuria
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oscuria
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| Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| twoshots wrote: | | ^ I've seen too many parodies of Christians already. I needed that oscuria |
I can come up with many different scenarios. I'm thinking of doing a Muslim v Christian debate.
Assalamu alaikum!  |
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Orwell
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| Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| oscuria wrote: | | twoshots wrote: | | ^ I've seen too many parodies of Christians already. I needed that oscuria |
I can come up with many different scenarios. I'm thinking of doing a Muslim v Christian debate.
Assalamu alaikum! |
I personally would love to see that.
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pezar
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| Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| oscuria wrote: | | twoshots wrote: | | ^ I've seen too many parodies of Christians already. I needed that oscuria |
I can come up with many different scenarios. I'm thinking of doing a Muslim v Christian debate.
Assalamu alaikum! |
Is that the one where the argument is "solved" by one person sawing off the other person's head?  |
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iamnotaparakeet
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| Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| oscuria wrote: | | twoshots wrote: | | ^ I've seen too many parodies of Christians already. I needed that oscuria |
I can come up with many different scenarios. I'm thinking of doing a Muslim v Christian debate.
Assalamu alaikum! |
What, with me and Ragtime debating with Khan_Sama and Stimsthiene? Be accurate.
Too much of the web is cluttered with ramblings from misotheists.
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oscuria
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I've thought about it and nothing really compares to the maestro Jack Chick.
Allah Had No Son
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Awesomelyglorious
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I *love* Jack Chick. The pamphlets may not bring anyone to Christ but they certainly bring a smile or laugh to my face!  |
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Awesomelyglorious
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| Also, I already started a thread where the "Proofs of God" from godlessgeeks.com were linked to. Those are sort of funny and along the same lines of what you are talking about. You probably already know about the site as it was in Dawkin's book "The God Delusion". |
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Orwell
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| Awesomelyglorious wrote: | | I *love* Jack Chick. The pamphlets may not bring anyone to Christ but they certainly bring a smile or laugh to my face! |
He is always good for a laugh. However, I do dislike him misrepresenting my religion and giving people the impression that Christians are inherently stupid.
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Awesomelyglorious
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| Orwell wrote: |
He is always good for a laugh. However, I do dislike him misrepresenting my religion and giving people the impression that Christians are inherently stupid. |
Well, enough people do that already to the point where he is a drop of water in an ocean of idiocy.
Btw, here is Jack Chick's newest track!
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1041/1041_01.asp?wpc=1041_01.asp&wpp=a
Doesn't everyone feel great with their religion where we can be all be gods?
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Orwell
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| Awesomelyglorious wrote: | | Orwell wrote: |
He is always good for a laugh. However, I do dislike him misrepresenting my religion and giving people the impression that Christians are inherently stupid. |
Well, enough people do that already to the point where he is a drop of water in an ocean of idiocy. |
Ouch. True enough, I suppose. But mainly because the most visible/outspoken Christians tend to be of the fundie variety, which does seem to correlate with lower intelligence. The majority of Christians are perfectly reasonable people, but also don't always make religion the dominant feature of every conversation, and so the availability heuristic sets in to create a perception of Christians that isn't entirely accurate.
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oscuria
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| Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Orwell wrote: |
Ouch. True enough, I suppose. But mainly because the most visible/outspoken Christians tend to be of the fundie variety, which does seem to correlate with lower intelligence. The majority of Christians are perfectly reasonable people, but also don't always make religion the dominant feature of every conversation, and so the availability heuristic sets in to create a perception of Christians that isn't entirely accurate. |
Isn't that the same with all religions? The loudest are always heard, but the loudest tend to be the radicals. |
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