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Izaak
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 Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Unfortunately iamnotaparakeet, until the mods actually do do something about it, all one can do is kindly ask the miso-theists to go away. Unless a forum is specifically created for such discussions. (of course the words "go away" are probably discouraged as they would only serve to provoke (even if warranted))
So in summary, it's probably gonna continue as is unless the mods react quicker. Of course I have no idea of the mods policy or reaction times on such things. |
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iamnotaparakeet
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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It's not that I want them to "go away", rather have them just not play their games of rhetoric. But I suppose the way I defined it would say they have attitudes that make them unbearable conversationally.
You can see that it is one thing not to accept God whereas it's another not to accept the probability of God, right? Not only that but their tactics tend to ward off any real conversation whether between fellow believers or between believers and non-believers who aren't rude.
These current misotheists don't have to act the way they do, but they have zero motivation to change. And who changes their ways if they don't have to?
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lau
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| iamnotaparakeet wrote: | | Let me recapitulate: Anti-religion trolls shouldn't go unpunished. They take over threads, they harass, bully, ridicule, et cetera. This should only happen in PPR, so that members who don't want to deal with them don't have to. If religious topics are currently relegated to PPR, so should anti-religious topics. There should be equal and fair treatment of ALL parties. |
| teekarapatonmai wrote: | | Let me recapitulate: Religion trolls shouldn't go unpunished. They take over threads, they harass, bully, ridicule, et cetera. This should only happen in PPR, so that members who don't want to deal with them don't have to. If anti-religious topics are currently relegated to PPR, so should religious topics. There should be equal and fair treatment of ALL parties. |
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iamnotaparakeet
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| lau wrote: | | iamnotaparakeet wrote: | | Let me recapitulate: Anti-religion trolls shouldn't go unpunished. They take over threads, they harass, bully, ridicule, et cetera. This should only happen in PPR, so that members who don't want to deal with them don't have to. If religious topics are currently relegated to PPR, so should anti-religious topics. There should be equal and fair treatment of ALL parties. |
| teekarapatonmai wrote: | | Let me recapitulate: Religion trolls shouldn't go unpunished. They take over threads, they harass, bully, ridicule, et cetera. This should only happen in PPR, so that members who don't want to deal with them don't have to. If anti-religious topics are currently relegated to PPR, so should religious topics. There should be equal and fair treatment of ALL parties. |
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Correct. Now, do the religious have the same freedom as the anti-religious?
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greenblue
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| lau wrote: | | iamnotaparakeet wrote: | | Let me recapitulate: Anti-religion trolls shouldn't go unpunished. They take over threads, they harass, bully, ridicule, et cetera. This should only happen in PPR, so that members who don't want to deal with them don't have to. If religious topics are currently relegated to PPR, so should anti-religious topics. There should be equal and fair treatment of ALL parties. |
| teekarapatonmai wrote: | | Let me recapitulate: Religion trolls shouldn't go unpunished. They take over threads, they harass, bully, ridicule, et cetera. This should only happen in PPR, so that members who don't want to deal with them don't have to. If anti-religious topics are currently relegated to PPR, so should religious topics. There should be equal and fair treatment of ALL parties. |
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I don't quite understand this.
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greenblue
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| iamnotaparakeet wrote: | | Correct. Now, do the religious have the same freedom as the anti-religious? |
It seems so.
iamnotaparakeet, it seems that you really like WP, to have made a thread like this, because you want to continue here after all.
About the term misotheism, wouldn't that be logically incorrect to use it against people who don't believe in a deity, being that hating someone who they don't believe to exist? mostly a strong and emotional reaction against some idoelogy or philosophy they consider to be incorrect, that's why attacking it, some irrespectful? yes.
It seems mostly like, misotheism, being a biased-term to defend your position.
As QM stated, trying to shove religion down people's throat, might get similar reactions always, which of course not all of them would be appropriate. And I believe QM was questioning your behaviour as well.
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Strapples
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Zonder
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| iamnotaparakeet wrote: | | It's not the nice ones like you that are the problem, but the ones who have a mission to never stop pestering and trolling. It's one thing not to accept Christ for yourself. That's your right if you choose to do so. But the ones on a crusade to rid the world of all religion, they're the problem. |
Love suffereth long and is kind.
Love envieth not.
Love vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up
doth not behave itself unseamingly,
is not easily provoked . . .
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iamnotaparakeet
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| greenblue wrote: | | iamnotaparakeet wrote: | | Correct. Now, do the religious have the same freedom as the anti-religious? |
It seems so.
iamnotaparakeet, it seems that you really like WP, to have made a thread like this, because you want to continue here after all.
About the term misotheism, wouldn't that be logically incorrect to use it against people who don't believe in a deity, being that hating someone who they don't believe to exist? mostly a strong and emotional reaction against some idoelogy or philosophy they consider to be incorrect, that's why attacking it, some irrespectful? yes.
It seems mostly like, misotheism, being a biased-term to defend your position.
As QM stated, trying to shove religion down people's throat, might get similar reactions always, which of course not all of them would be appropriate. And I believe QM was questioning your behaviour as well. |
I'm not here to shove my or anyone else's religion down anyone's throat. I'm here because I have Asperger's and I have some friends here.
As to the topic: I'm sick of the disrespect, insults, ridicule, etc shown to religious people in general and Christians in specific. People trolling threads with people rhetorically asserting that God doesn't exist, over and over, ad infinitum gets irritating.
Misotheist fits. If we're wrong, they should be content with that. The types of posts they post show that altruism is not their motivation, so they are not merely trying to help us see the light. They are irrationally angry, in appearance at least, towards God.
What I want done: I want equal treatment for all Aspies regardless of creed. If religious topics are sent to PPR, so then must anti-religious topics.
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Zonder
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| iamnotaparakeet wrote: | As to the topic: I'm sick of the disrespect, insults, ridicule, etc shown to religious people in general and Christians in specific. People trolling threads with people rhetorically asserting that God doesn't exist, over and over, ad infinitum gets irritating.
Misotheist fits. If we're wrong, they should be content with that. The types of posts they post show that altruism is not their motivation, so they are not merely trying to help us see the light. They are irrationally angry, in appearance at least, towards God.
What I want done: I want equal treatment for all Aspies regardless of creed. If religious topics are sent to PPR, so then must anti-religious topics. |
beareth all things,
believeth all things,
hopeth all things,
endureth all things . . .
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iamnotaparakeet
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Zonder wrote: | | iamnotaparakeet wrote: | | It's not the nice ones like you that are the problem, but the ones who have a mission to never stop pestering and trolling. It's one thing not to accept Christ for yourself. That's your right if you choose to do so. But the ones on a crusade to rid the world of all religion, they're the problem. |
Love suffereth long and is kind.
Love envieth not.
Love vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up
doth not behave itself unseamingly,
is not easily provoked . . .
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1st Corinthians 13:4-7
What should I do then? Be a doormat? I think Christianity has taken to much abuse already.
Should we allow ourselves to be denied freedom of speech while others freely trample us?
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Zonder
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| iamnotaparakeet wrote: | What should I do then? Be a doormat? I think Christianity has taken to much abuse already.
Should we allow ourselves to be denied freedom of speech while others freely trample us? |
You could try being Christ-like.
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iamnotaparakeet
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Zonder wrote: | | iamnotaparakeet wrote: | What should I do then? Be a doormat? I think Christianity has taken to much abuse already.
Should we allow ourselves to be denied freedom of speech while others freely trample us? |
You could try being Christ-like.
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How would that be? He argued. He got angry at injustice. Are you suggesting that I should allow myself to take the punishment for those who accept me? What then?
Again, should I be a doormat? Was Christ a doormat?
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Strapples
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| iamnotaparakeet wrote: | | Zonder wrote: | | iamnotaparakeet wrote: | What should I do then? Be a doormat? I think Christianity has taken to much abuse already.
Should we allow ourselves to be denied freedom of speech while others freely trample us? |
You could try being Christ-like.
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How would that be? He argued. He got angry at injustice. Are you suggesting that I should allow myself to take the punishment for those who accept me? What then?
Again, should I be a doormat? Was Christ a doormat? |
I dont know much about religion...but what i CAN say is wasnt christ bullied a lot by people... what about the cross wasnt that the ultimate form of bullying and being fed with a sponge wine?
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Quatermass
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| iamnotaparakeet wrote: | | Zonder wrote: | | iamnotaparakeet wrote: | What should I do then? Be a doormat? I think Christianity has taken to much abuse already.
Should we allow ourselves to be denied freedom of speech while others freely trample us? |
You could try being Christ-like.
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How would that be? He argued. He got angry at injustice. Are you suggesting that I should allow myself to take the punishment for those who accept me? What then?
Again, should I be a doormat? Was Christ a doormat? |
Lemme see, he let those Romans whip him, let those Pharisees slander him, and allowed himself to die in the most horrid way they could think of, so yeah. He was a doormat.
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