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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pakled wrote:
this show has been on since '63. Aren't they running out of regenerations? Like it, but haven't had TV since October.


Yes - he has either 2 or 3 left depending on whether he has 12 "lives" or 12 "regenerations" ....

That's why I think it was a mistake to regenerate Eccleston after only one season. He can't afford to run through them that quickly now!
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wolphin wrote:
Blink was just brilliant.


yeah, blink was an instant sci-fi classic imo.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shopaholic wrote:
pakled wrote:
this show has been on since '63. Aren't they running out of regenerations? Like it, but haven't had TV since October.


Yes - he has either 2 or 3 left depending on whether he has 12 "lives" or 12 "regenerations" ....

That's why I think it was a mistake to regenerate Eccleston after only one season. He can't afford to run through them that quickly now!


12 regenerations, 13 lives. But remember, the Master was given a whole new life cycle (a thing offered to him in The Five Doctors).
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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12 regenerations, 13 lives. But remember, the Master was given a whole new life cycle (a thing offered to him in The Five Doctors).


Yes - but there are no Time Lords left now to offer him anything, are there?

They would have to come up with something pretty clever.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just finished watching the latest episode, it was great! i cant wait for the 2nd part, so many unanswered questions! Surprised
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hadn't realised that there was a limit to the regeneration. Hopefully the new series takes this into account. I hope David Tennant is the Doctor for a long time.

It's been two weeks since they had a doctor who episode and this is a great two parter so far. Can't wait for Forest of the Dead. Interesting idea of the library being inside an imaginary girl's head. I wonder who the woman with the Doctor's Sonic Screwdriver is. My sister thought it might be his daughter but then the woman said she knew the Doctor in his future so that can't be right.

I also reckin Rose brought them to the library.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I also reckin Rose brought them to the library.


The woman with the screwdriver said she sent a message to the doctor on the psychic paper, but he got it to early. I don't know who she is but I don't entirely trust her. I get the feeling that she'll turn out to be a bad guy.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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TheAPERSON wrote:
I also reckin Rose brought them to the library.


The woman with the screwdriver said she sent a message to the doctor on the psychic paper, but he got it to early. I don't know who she is but I don't entirely trust her. I get the feeling that she'll turn out to be a bad guy.


or girl..
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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TheAPERSON wrote:
I also reckin Rose brought them to the library.


The woman with the screwdriver said she sent a message to the doctor on the psychic paper, but he got it to early. I don't know who she is but I don't entirely trust her. I get the feeling that she'll turn out to be a bad guy.


or girl..


She could turn out to be a guy. Stranger things have happened, especially on Doctor Who.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looooool so true!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She could even be the Doctor!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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She could even be the Doctor!


That would... actually make sense...
This show is WEIRD
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Great news about Moffat, though I think his "Silence in the Library" isn't being as well accepted according to the reviews (which I haven't read carefully for fear of spoilers)...

Regarding Regenerations....

Remember that the Valeyard means that one is already used up.
And... supposedly, the red-haired doctor is somewhere in the future.

Quatermass wrote:
12 regenerations, 13 lives. But remember, the Master was given a whole new life cycle (a thing offered to him in The Five Doctors).


How exactly were they planning on doing that? Burning up a sun for him? Handing back the black hole?

Anyway, the Master hasn't had a proper regeneration in years, not since Deadly Assassin. He's been hijacking bodies since then using something that his alterered DNA was capable of. I can't see how the Doctor expected him to regenerate at the end of Season 3. He knows he can't.

The best answer for the Doctor is the reminder that he's not just a timelord. He was something before he was a timelord.

I love that scene in Lungbarrow where it describes the Doctor's birth...

Gallifreyans were sterile and the Doctor was on the "Loom", an artificial means of creating offspring. Some formless thing came and in a flash of lightning jumped into the body on the loom.

When the doctor was born, they called him snail. He had a belly button - which other children of the loom did not.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gbollard wrote:
Great news about Moffat, though I think his "Silence in the Library" isn't being as well accepted according to the reviews (which I haven't read carefully for fear of spoilers)...

Regarding Regenerations....

Remember that the Valeyard means that one is already used up.
And... supposedly, the red-haired doctor is somewhere in the future.


The Valeyard is described as a coalition of the Doctor's evil, not as the Doctor himself. He's more like the Watcher was (in Logopolis) to the Doctor, or Cho-Je was (in Planet of the Spiders) to K'anpo Rimpoche.
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Quatermass wrote:
The Valeyard is described as a coalition of the Doctor's evil, not as the Doctor himself. He's more like the Watcher was (in Logopolis) to the Doctor, or Cho-Je was (in Planet of the Spiders) to K'anpo Rimpoche.


Good point, never thought of it that way.

There's long been a school of thought that says that regeneration drives Time Lords mad.... (eg: Borusa).
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